Carbonda fm936 Thoughts

[brex]

I doubt Carbonda includes the rear axle and plastic spacer in the stated frame weight. What does it weigh without those items?

[jimmyD]

I doubt Carbonda includes the rear axle and plastic spacer in the stated frame weight. What does it weigh without those items?

yeah i guess thats fair enough. but they cant weigh that much. I cant weight the frame again until monday but id guess the axle and shock dummy might weigh ca 100g together. the rear drop out and cable guides were also on the bike. so i guess that might bring it down to closer to 2kg. I jsut got a little concerned when i saw the model printed inside the head tube and it said FM 936...no mention of SL. But 2kg is right for a size Large in the SL version.

[jimmyD]

Hi. 
My standard frame size L weight 2198grs ... it does not seem that you have the light weight

2198f  with or without the the rear axle, dropout and cable white plastic cable guides inside the frame?

[wfl3]

Hey folks,

I just received my Carbonda FM936. I ordered an SL (super light) model. How do I know if I received an SL or standard model?

Its size Large and weighs 2116g with the rear axle and the plastic dummy shock. I thought it would be a bit lighter and the standard would be closer to this weight. Do you think I got the correct frame?

My medium SL was right around 1860 grams w/o axle, shock dummy & seatpost clamp

The axle & shock dummy are right at 100 grams combined so that brings your large down to 2016 grams (lighter if you left the seatpost clamp on as well) which is probably right in the ballpark for a large SL - seems those have a bit of extra reinforcement on the seatpost / toptube section (and probably other areas as well).

[RobertRinAustin]

What are you guys using for cable dampener? Is the bike noisy without anything?

[victorike]

2198f  with or without the the rear axle, dropout and cable white plastic cable guides inside the frame?

With everything

[jimmyD]

Here is the answer :

"Bike24 GmbH <info@bike24.net>
Jeu 03/12/2020 13:39
Dear Mr. ******,

Thank you for your e-mail.

The item ROX496013 - RockShox SIDLuxe Ultimate RL Solo Air Rear Shockv Fitting Length x Travel: 165 x 40 mm, is compatible with TwistLoc and OneLoc."

Same link as the 42.5 you bought, I think that you can contact them because they sent the wrong shock.

Hmm, now I’m more confused. I emailed SRAM about the 165x40 remote SIDluxe ultimate shock. This is their reply

DSD Australia (SRAM)
Dec 3, 2020, 22:06 CST

Hi James,

Thanks for reaching out on this one.

The rear shock program is a hard one at the moment, just as there are soo many variations we have most shocks available OEM but not as many AM. We have this shock size available aftermarket as a standard shock though but the remote variant is not available aftermarket.

The part number for the lever adjust is:
AM RS SIDL ULT RL 165X40 SA1 MM 430TS A1 00.4118.305.014

Kind Regards,
SRAM Service Team

[QuentinLL]

I just asked them to take a picture of the shock they have in stock, arguing that 1 customer received the wrong shock and that Rockshox says there is no aftermarket remote shock. I don't want to pay for a return if they send the wrong shock.

I will let you know.
My order is still blocked for 1 week because 1 product is not in stock, hopefully I will solve it before shipment.

[carbonazza]

What are you guys using for cable dampener? Is the bike noisy without anything?

This: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000944551689.html
I bought the 6/10mm one.
But it is quite heavy at 40g/m

I'd love to know if the bike is noisy without foam too !

[RobinRLS]

This one is at the same price and way lighter : 15g for 10m.
https://r2-bike.com/CAPGO-OL-Noise-Protection-for-Brakehose-Braking-Outer-Shell-10m

[jimmyD]

I just asked them to take a picture of the shock they have in stock, arguing that 1 customer received the wrong shock and that Rockshox says there is no aftermarket remote shock. I don't want to pay for a return if they send the wrong shock.

I will let you know.
My order is still blocked for 1 week because 1 product is not in stock, hopefully I will solve it before shipment.

i wonder if a fox shock will work with the twist lock remote. it seems it might but im not sure yet .
https://forums.mtbr.com/shocks-suspension/possible-use-rockshox-twistloc-fox-suspension-1086651.html

The twistlock aparently has a 10mm cable pull. just need to find a suitable fox shock and confirm the cable pull needed it. 

Ive also emailed sram again asking if they have any shock in 165x40 with remote thats available after market. Also asked which bikes come with the 165x40 remote shock OEM...maybe could just order a "replacement" shock through a dealer. will post any info i get here

[helmat]

if you want 165x40 with remote, why not go for DT Swiss
https://www.dtswiss.com/en/suspension/shocks/r-232-one
https://www.dtswiss.com/en/suspension/shocks/r-535-one

they are both available with remote and in 165x40

[jimmyD]

if you want 165x40 with remote, why not go for DT Swiss
https://www.dtswiss.com/en/suspension/shocks/r-232-one
https://www.dtswiss.com/en/suspension/shocks/r-535-one

they are both available with remote and in 165x40

Do you know if the Rockshox twist lock remote will work with the DTSwiss shock?
I already have the fork

[carbonazza]

This one is at the same price and way lighter : 15g for 10m.
https://r2-bike.com/CAPGO-OL-Noise-Protection-for-Brakehose-Braking-Outer-Shell-10m

Lighter & Cheaper !   
https://r2-bike.com/JAGWIRE-Internal-Housing-Dampener-for-Cable-Housing-10-meter

[wfl3]

I got a few bags of each of these for the next time I cable mine:   https://www.chainreactioncycles.com/us/en/lifeline-internal-routing-anti-vibration-foam/rp-prod185571

The 5mm is 6 grams per 400mm and the 6mm is 8 grams per 400mm (on my scale).


For now I just cut some sections from a pool noodle the length of the downtube area and shoved them in under the existing cables.  Works really well so far, but still hear the part in the chainstays every once in a while.