Carbonda FM909

[Colt__Seavers]

I'd like to know this as well. I asked if 165 x 45 would work, but he responded with please use 165x40.

I'm not real sure the FM936 is a 165x42.5 is 120. The site says 165x40 is 100mm. I think NS bikes uses a different rear end with the same front triangle. NS bikes has a 165x38.5 for their 100mm bike.

Use what Carbonda tells you to use!
With the FM936 people found out that a 165x42,5 fits and a 165x45 definitely don't! There is no such experience with 909.
By the way, the 42,5 over a 40mm won't give you 120mm instead of 100mm. More like 106mm.
The NS used a whole different triangle

[rukomasa]

Arrived. 1827g with all mouting bolts, RD hanger, cable liners, outer housing bushings. No bottle cage bolts, no shock, no protection plastics, no seatpost clamp, no headset, no BB.

all bearing rotation is far from smooth (but i dont care too much).  Shock bushing 8x30mm (8mm diameter x 30mm L to R) required (may not be included). I am contacting to seller but maybe i have to buy separately.

Any question?   

[wfl3]

Is that a medium or large frame?  Thanks

[InsaneDawe]

I'm not real sure the FM936 is a 165x42.5 is 120. The site says 165x40 is 100mm. I think NS bikes uses a different rear end with the same front triangle. NS bikes has a 165x38.5 for their 100mm bike.

Use what Carbonda tells you to use!
With the FM936 people found out that a 165x42,5 fits and a 165x45 definitely don't! There is no such experience with 909.
By the way, the 42,5 over a 40mm won't give you 120mm instead of 100mm. More like 106mm.

I believe the NS does use the same rear triangle, there is some flex to the rear triangle you have to take into account and NS is probably doing what everyone else does. NS probably probably measured "About 112mm of travel?" and said "that's close enough to 120mm". There was one post in the FM936 thread where someone took their frame & 42.5mm shock and measured ~11Xmm of travel unscientifically. That's close enough.

At the end of the day, wait until you have the frame in hand okayestMTBer, you can then see if a 42.5/45mm will work. Or just slap a 40mm in there and call it good enough like the OEMs do.

[zilcho]

I believe the NS does use the same rear triangle, there is some flex to the rear triangle you have to take into account and NS is probably doing what everyone else does. NS probably said "About 112mm of travel?" "that's close enough to 120mm". There was one post in the FM936 thread where someone took their frame & 42.5mm shock and measured ~11Xmm of travel unscientifically. That's close enough.

At the end of the day, wait until you have the frame in hand okayestMTBer, you can then see if a 42.5/45mm will work. Or just slap a 40mm in there and call it good enough like the OEMs do.

Carbonda has confirmed that NS does use a proprietary rear triangle, in addition to the NS rear triangle being visually different to the FM936 and any other company using the frame.

Also, NS uses a 38.5mm for the 100mm travel and 40mm for 120mm, in direct contrast to Carbonda's suggestion for 40=100 and end users with 42.5 getting ~110.

[InsaneDawe]

Carbonda has confirmed that NS does use a proprietary rear triangle, in addition to the NS rear triangle being visually different to the FM936 and any other company using the frame.

You are right, I do see the differences now. The Vitus is identical.

Also, NS uses a 38.5mm for the 100mm travel and 40mm for 120mm, in direct contrast to Carbonda's suggestion for 40=100 and end users with 42.5 getting ~110.

Site says 42.5 fox performance on the TR1. Nevertheless, I am now noticing the linkage is ever so slightly different which makes a big difference in travel.

[rukomasa]

Is that a medium or large frame?  Thanks

My 1827g Frame is the medium. so their 17xxg claimed is maybe bear non painted frame.

just one dropper cable is routed. Internal routing is tough.

[DESMOCHEEE!!!]

Is very pretty. Maybe I expected it to be lighter. I hope they send it to me in July.

[rukomasa]

Is very pretty. Maybe I expected it to be lighter. I hope they send it to me in July.

Thanks.
BTW, You will find 8x30mm bushing is not very common. I just asked Carbonda to find, and now they are talking to supplier. If it is not too late, maybe you can ask them to include in your shipping.

[rukomasa]

Just done the most painful part, routings. Rear brake routing is really hard to go though. Right DS chainstay has an tunnel to go though, so RD outter housing is easy. Real pain is rear brake route.

I think you must disassemble the rear swing arm to route, but when I did so, pivot points scratch each other and making paint tips. I am not sure the best way to avoid the paint scratch since engagement is really tight. So if you cant allow any small flaw in the paint, maybe you need a special wiring tool especially for hydraulic hose. Once you pass the chain stay and get in to the front triangle, BB part and downtube part is much much easier to go.

[d3xophen]

how's the build going?
I am waiting for your review on this frame.

[rukomasa]

hahaha, sorry. my dialy job for live, makes me busy these days, and still wait for some parts. mainly bushing.

[rukomasa]

Slower but going ahead

[jever98]

Fine looking bike. And ready to bunny hop 

[tcross]

Great looking bike! Did it take long for carbonda to get back to you? I emailed them early last week but still no response.