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Ultralemon:
I've been looking through many threads to hopefully do a build of my own, and noticed that Velobuild seems to have a much cheaper price compared to manufacturers, I've mainly seen this price difference when comparing workswell to them, most people claiming their frame was ~700 usd quoted, whereas Velobuild is 480 for what seems to be the same frame.

Is there any difference in final product buying from velobuild versus a manufacturer?

FlyingPower:
I wonder this too. Everybody says Dengfu Hongfu bla bla is much better and much cheaper and Velobuild and they also say that Velobuild is trash.

So I have got a suggestion from Dengfu for a bike 550+160 shipping.
From Velobuild you get a bike with the same features for 450+83.

?!?!

Zoc:
i ordered  the VB-R-168 two weeks ago
very good communication right now,
keep you posted

Snacks:
i never read anywhere that velobuild is trash  ???

although you're right you do hear more about dengfu/hongfu. in anycase, i have two from velobuild. purchased r 099 late last year and purchased their gravel frame gr01 last month( build post coming soon  ;D). both have been amazing to ride on

granted ive put a only a couple hundred miles on the gr01 so far but i take it down steep MTB trails, its been really fun and has held up well carrying me, im 104kg . put a lot more on the r099 , id have to double check but maybe close to 1k but in any case its been great. super fast frame and feels plenty stiff when i mess around on sprints with my buddies.

you'll read about it everywhere and its not an exaggeration, chris and his customer service has been amazing. plus i get my frames super fast from them. china to california. i think it was about 3 weeks for the road frame and 1 week for the gravel frame. i  was actually very surprised when the gravel frame came in. exactly 7 days after i paid, i went to check to see if chris had emailed me a tracking number and it was literally on my doorstep 20min later. i thought it was my super late tan tan frame but nope, was the second velobuild frame.

i really dont like advertising for companies nor reviewing anything but when you have had such extreme experiences with these companies( from my terrible time with tan tan to an amazing purchase experience with velobuild), i feel it necessary to at least provide my thoughts.  i would say save the money ,go with velobuild and ride with some peace of mind knowing its just as good as the other guys.

1Sigma:
I am also looking at Velobuild. Specifically the R-168
The price is right, and has the geometry I am looking for.

I've compared adding ICAN, Tantan, Dengfu, and Miracle.
Comparable frame are all more expensive, shipped to Canada.

Hongfu, Trifox, and Twitter are excluded as they don't have a fully integrated model and/or have older designs.

There is cheaper than Velobuild.  However, anything cheaper I've seen tends to be an unknown factor, and I start to get uncomfortable

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