Author Topic: IP-256SL Winter Build  (Read 22006 times)

blueducati

Re: IP-256SL Winter Build
« Reply #30 on: November 18, 2014, 10:35:11 AM »
I'm in SE Michigan, and we just got a little bit the last few days. They got 3 or 4 inches on the west side of the state. I like the snow, but I've never ridden in it on purpose. Hopefully I can get this built before it gets too deep!

No, there were no cable guide hoses in the frame. Upon a first quick inspection, everything looks really good. A few little dimples here and there, but I think you'll get that from any frame mfg. Excited to get started.

blueducati

Re: IP-256SL Winter Build
« Reply #31 on: November 18, 2014, 10:45:25 PM »
A few more updates. I picked up a cheap wheelset. I wanted something on the cheap side but still decent quality and wide. I found the WTB i25 rim with SLX hubs for $170 new at Jenson. 25mm inner width. A bit on the heavy side, and the hubs are centerlock so I'll need adapters, but will work while I learn how to do this MTB stuff. I've still got to pick up a cassette, chain, and seatpost.

A couple more weight updates:

Frame - 17.5 BB30 = 1111g


Rear axle - 74g


Rear wheel - WTB i25 ST - 1207g


Front Wheel - WTB i25 ST - 1052g


Chain ring - Wolf Tooth 32t- 48g


Saddle- Selle Royal Seta (spare road saddle that came with my Cervelo) - 298g

blueducati

Re: IP-256SL Winter Build
« Reply #32 on: November 22, 2014, 08:54:18 AM »
I was poking around last night and dry fitting components together. Quick question for the guys who have built 256's, did your headset bearings drop right in, or did you need to press them in? The top (NECO) bearing drops right in, but the bottom won't. I'm leery about just pressing it in, so I thought I'd ask here before doing something dumb. Other options are to clean up the bottom "cup" in the frame or putting the bearing in the freezer for a bit to shrink it before greasing and installing.

Carbon_Dude

Re: IP-256SL Winter Build
« Reply #33 on: November 22, 2014, 10:17:59 AM »
I don't have an IP-256 but for my IP-057 & IP-036 the bearing dropped in on both the upper and lower sides of the head tube.  If you are pressing them in, I would think you have the wrong size bearing.
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blueducati

Re: IP-256SL Winter Build
« Reply #34 on: November 22, 2014, 11:03:39 AM »
The bearing OD is pretty much right on 52.0mm. The ID of the head tube is between 51.7 and 51.9, although it's tough to measure with calipers. I'll try cleaning up the inner surface and see if it drops in.

carbonazza

Re: IP-256SL Winter Build
« Reply #35 on: November 22, 2014, 11:27:43 AM »
I did press it.

Joelk

Re: IP-256SL Winter Build
« Reply #36 on: November 22, 2014, 03:23:20 PM »
On my 256 the top dropped right in and I was able to press the bottom in with firm finger pressure.

MTB2223

Re: IP-256SL Winter Build
« Reply #37 on: November 22, 2014, 03:33:24 PM »
On my 256 both dropped in without any pressure. Put (a lot) grease around it, to 'seal' it for water.

blueducati

Re: IP-256SL Winter Build
« Reply #38 on: November 22, 2014, 08:07:40 PM »
I used from 400 grit sandpaper and just cleaned out the bottom "cup" of the head tube, and now the bearing goes in with slight pressure. Thanks for letting me know that it should go in easy!

Vipassana

Re: IP-256SL Winter Build
« Reply #39 on: November 23, 2014, 06:50:58 PM »
They dropped in on the three 256s I built. Maybe there's a bit if paint in the cup. Lightly sand it out. Grease the beatings before putting them in the frame to avoid creaking noises.

blueducati

Re: IP-256SL Winter Build
« Reply #40 on: November 29, 2014, 09:05:06 AM »
Making progress, still waiting for a few parts to finish up. It's hard to get a lot done, I've been only working on it when the kids are in bed. Thinking about taking the rim decals off, what do you think?


brmeyer135

Re: IP-256SL Winter Build
« Reply #41 on: December 01, 2014, 12:55:44 PM »
Looking good.
I took the rim stickers off my Crest rims - just looks better towards the 'murdered out' look
With your white fork, I might leave them or get them painted/stickered to add to the white....so the fork isn't the only white piece.(there was a topic about getting the rims painted somewhere though they were talking about carbon ones)
Your whole wheelset was 170.00? or one wheel?
I see blue on your pedals, post lock and a blue head badge?

blueducati

Re: IP-256SL Winter Build
« Reply #42 on: December 01, 2014, 02:08:19 PM »
Thanks for the reply.

I really like the way everyone's black chinese carbon rims look, so I'm leaning towards taking the stickers off. Yeah, the whole wheelset was 170. Probably not the lightest, but I wanted something wide (25mm inner width) and sturdy, so I figured going with a known brand (WTB rim, Shimano hub) would be a good idea. Plus, they were really cheap.

Here's the link, they are still on sale.
http://www.jensonusa.com/WTB-ST-I25-RimSlx-Hub-29-Wheelset#brm-search?request_type=search&search_type=keyword&q=wtb%20i25&l=wtb%20i25

Yeah, blue Candy 3 pedals, blue seatpost clamp, and I'm having a blue headtube badge (decal) made up. What you see in that photo is a blue reflection from the TV.  ;D

brmeyer135

Re: IP-256SL Winter Build
« Reply #43 on: December 03, 2014, 04:20:45 PM »
Think I see an issue.  Your SLX hubs are centerlock - meaning, I think, Shimano proprietary connection for brake discs.  Your disc brakes will need an adapter since they are 6 bolt.
« Last Edit: December 03, 2014, 04:22:27 PM by brmeyer135 »

blueducati

Re: IP-256SL Winter Build
« Reply #44 on: December 03, 2014, 07:43:59 PM »
Yeah, good eye. I bought and installed the adapters already. I got DT Swiss adapters, as they looked like the best set up. Most everything is installed now, I just have to install the chain, adjust the RD, and get the tire beads to seat. I had a really hard time last time I tried, even using a compressor. I figured letting the tires sit on the rims for a few days might stretch them out a bit. Tomorrow I'm going to try more soapy water and the compressor. After that, I should just have to go around and make sure everything is tight and lubed and I should be all set! Hopefully this weekend.