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[velofranner]

So guys...

I was almost pulling the trigger on the Ryde Trace with DT Swiss 240s, but then I saw this!: http://www.ebay.de/itm/DT-Swiss-240s-Veltec-XM-Carbon-29-Laufradsatz-wheelset-MTB-15-X-12-XX1-/261335758232?pt=Sport_Radsport_Fahrradteile_Komponenten&hash=item3cd8d33598

This are with Veltec carbon rims, I guess that they are exactly the same as many others. But in this way I don't have to pay Anti-dumping. So anybody who can say good for these wheels? And the seller has a quite good rating.

They look quite nice!

[Carbon_Dude]

That is an excellent deal on a set of 25mm wide, hand built, carbon wheels with DT Swiss 240 hubs.  If I were in the market for wheels, those would be high on my list.

[velofranner]

That is an excellent deal on a set of 25mm wide, hand built, carbon wheels with DT Swiss 240 hubs.  If I were in the market for wheels, those would be high on my list.

That is also what I am thinking! Glad I found the shop. :-)

[Carbon_Dude]

In USD, the hubs alone are about $500/set.  The entire wheelset is $850, so I'd say this is a really good deal.  Wonder if they ship to the US.

[velofranner]

In USD, the hubs alone are about $500/set.  The entire wheelset is $850, so I'd say this is a really good deal.  Wonder if they ship to the US.

Maybe its such a good deal that I shouldn't had posted it Haha

[cmh]

In USD, the hubs alone are about $500/set.  The entire wheelset is $850, so I'd say this is a really good deal.  Wonder if they ship to the US.

Maybe its such a good deal that I shouldn't had posted it Haha

Doesn't 1618g seem strangely high for carbon rims and 240s hubs?  **especially** with Sapim Lasers.

Notice that the disk mount runs all the way to the flange, it's not cut back like the 240s in this photo:

http://www.dtswiss.com/Components/Hubs-MTB/240s-3

Also, two flanges of the same diameter, unlike the hub in the photo. Plus the machining on the pictured front hub looks *rough*. Maybe an OEM version

The rear hub in the auction looks exactly like the one on DT's site, so that's good.

Actually, I did the math. DT hubs are 145g and 230g (and the pictured front would be heavier) with 64 Laser spokes at 273g (260mm, round up to 300g for longer) and that works out to 471g per rim. 1618g just seemed high, but no, that's pretty reasonable considering those weights.

Pay no attention to me.

[velofranner]

UPDATE

The wheelset came yesterday! It is so nice! I got it a little cheaper...700 eur :-). An AWESOME deal. Cheaper than China.

Veltec XM-Carbon rims
DT Swiss 240s hubs
Sapim Laser spokes
Sapim Polyax Aluminium nipples
1618g

[Carbon_Dude]

Those look really nice, and with DT Swiss 240 hubs at that price you can't do better than that.

I do wonder why the weight isn't less than my XMIplay carbon wheels.  Mine are 30mm wide with Bitex hubs, Sapim straight pull spokes, and Sapim nipples and weighed in at 1560g so I am a little curious that yours with DT Swiss hubs weigh 58g more, although that's not all that significant.  For another comparison, my 24 mm wide DT Swiss XR1450 aluminum rims with 240 hubs, straight pull spokes, weigh in at 1450g. 

Ignoring the weight, which is still very good, those wheels look really nice and should be strong and reliable.  The DT Swiss Star Ratchet free hub makes a unique sound, mine tends to pulsate a bit.

[velofranner]

The rims are 27,5mm external width and 20,5mm internal. The 25mm information on the ebay site is not updated. I think they do have a bit more weight because that the design ain't hookless on the rims. I think it's a very competitive weight .

[Oolak]

Cheaper than China.

To be fair, I'm sure they're still made in China (?).

Either way, yeah, those 50 grams aren't going to make a tiny drop of difference - Those are some really nice carbon wheels with top-notch hubs at a great price. Good find, man! Surprisingly, I even really like the graphics on them. The red looks great. I usually always remove decals/graphics on rims but I think in those I'd most likely just remove the "29" on each side to make it slightly less busy looking. But that's just me.

[velofranner]

Cheaper than China.

To be fair, I'm sure they're still made in China (?).

Either way, yeah, those 50 grams aren't going to make a tiny drop of difference - Those are some really nice carbon wheels with top-notch hubs at a great price. Good find, man! Surprisingly, I even really like the graphics on them. The red looks great. I usually always remove decals/graphics on rims but I think in those I'd most likely just remove the "29" on each side to make it slightly less busy looking. But that's just me.

Yes as I wrote earlier I know that I meant that is was cheaper than going the "chiner" way:

...I guess that they are exactly the same as many others....

Yeah the color is nice, but some of my other parts are green so we will have to see .

[Carbon_Dude]

I missed that those wheels also include rim strips which is really nice and is part of the weight that most manufacturers do not include so all the better.

[velofranner]

I missed that those wheels also include rim strips which is really nice and is part of the weight that most manufacturers do not include so all the better.

Actually I didn't think of that either Hmm...how much does rim tape weigh?

[cmh]

Actually I didn't think of that either Hmm...how much does rim tape weigh?

Depends heavily on the tape used. Stan's yellow isn't too heavy, but the lightest I've come across is 3M fiberglass reinforced packing tape. Available in some high-strength varieties which I've used on high pressure road tires for years. Also makes tire installation and removal much easier because it is _very_ thin.

[JohnnyNT]

You mean this ? http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/Adhesives/Tapes/Products/~/3M-Glass-Cloth-Tape-361?N=5473999+4294924020&rt=rud