Vbr 168 and 086 builds

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I've gotten both bikes very close in weight.  The 168 cost much more to build up.  The 168 also took a lot more part picking to accomplish.  I originally build up both with no intention to get my 168 so light.

  The 086 I built because my other bike/rims was getting older. My older rim bike was direct mount braked so this is why I picked it. My only disc bike is an older cyclocross bike which is my gravel at 19lbs and has room for 45mm.  So I built the 168 just to be lighter that my gravel.

I'll post pics of build sheets and scaled weights.

The 086 was a build and go. The 168 has seen a long slow process.  I ordered both frames together from velobuild. Neither frame came with the forks. So that was another 4-6 weeks.  I built the 086 first then 168. As I built the 168 I found out there was no seat post clamp.  That took10 weeks to recieve. By that point it was full freezing winter.

The 086 is a weird combination for me at least. Direct mount and bb386.  I love shimano and used their groupset.  So I had to use a non branded bottom bracket that was 386 to 24mm.

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The 168 build
Take your time. Be prepared to do a ton of tedious tasks. The cable management is very difficult. I used string and vacuum to feed lines. Then taped a old cable to the string. I could then feed housing.  I started with handlebars. Some prefer to go from the back forward with the cables.

 I decided to use sensah empire carbon groupset and just my gravel wheels.  I am very happy with the sensah groupset. I got the winspace wheels cause I wanted a quality set of rims.

Then I heard sigma ordered the elite drive wheelsets.  So I went down the rabbit hole. I ordered up the goldix hollow cranks with oil slick chainrings.  I was getting along with the sensah groupset. So I found a used Sram red 22 partial groupset.

The 086 is a 52 while the 168 is a 49.  The 086 I used a 90 stem and 100 on the 168. The 086 I'm more upright. The 168 is slammed. The distance to the hoods is exactly the same for me.

[kbike]

here are the parts lists and rough amounts for weights.
086 ultegra
168 with sensah winspace hyper
168 with sram red and elite drive

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here's the bikes and on the scales.
Updated: RideNow tubes on 168
086 -7kg 15.5lbs
168 -7kg 15.5lbs

[StiffWeenies]

How is your experience with the Goldix cranks?

[kbike]

So far fine. I bought a second pair after I did go on gravel with them.  Now to be fair I'm 60kg and not a watt monster. Plus I haven't hit that pothole of doom out of no where either. 

I always tell guys check out what brakes or survives with the mtbers if you got some weight or tons of power. 

Didn't litepro have a hollow 130bcm crank armd years ago? How'd they ever do?

[1Sigma]

here are the parts lists and rough amounts for weights.
086 ultegra
168 with sensah winspace hyper
168 with sram red and elite drive

Wow! Very respectable