Author Topic: WheelTop EDS TX Full Wireless Groupset (Chinese SRAM)  (Read 119544 times)

fhill

Re: WheelTop EDS TX Full Wireless Groupset (Chinese SRAM)
« Reply #480 on: March 15, 2025, 09:37:30 AM »
New to the post I would appreciate some help.

Installed the group set but I am having difficulty with the fine tuning. I am able to set the first gear (smaller cog) with minimal friction using the initial set up with arrow adjustment. I am also able to shift through all 12 cogs, but I find starting with the second gear noise in some of the cogs. When I try to use the fine tuning function using the App only it appears that I get no adjustment movement from derailleur. Am I missing something in the procedure of using the fine tuning? for example do I need to use the shifters in combination with the app fine adjustment set up? Or it is just simply the fine tuning function not working.

Would appreciate advise, thanks

If I recall correctly, you have to shift back to the smallest cog to get the fine running to work and did you try it with really big jumps in the number?

I'm still thinking whether I would build my bike with the Wheeltop or with a used Ultegra di2 11s

cramy

Re: WheelTop EDS TX Full Wireless Groupset (Chinese SRAM)
« Reply #481 on: March 15, 2025, 11:28:10 AM »
If I recall correctly, you have to shift back to the smallest cog to get the fine running to work and did you try it with really big jumps in the number?

I'm still thinking whether I would build my bike with the Wheeltop or with a used Ultegra di2 11s

why not Ltwoo ERX or ER9?

Tijoe

Re: WheelTop EDS TX Full Wireless Groupset (Chinese SRAM)
« Reply #482 on: March 15, 2025, 11:47:49 AM »
New to the post I would appreciate some help.

Installed the group set but I am having difficulty with the fine tuning. I am able to set the first gear (smaller cog) with minimal friction using the initial set up with arrow adjustment. I am also able to shift through all 12 cogs, but I find starting with the second gear noise in some of the cogs. When I try to use the fine tuning function using the App only it appears that I get no adjustment movement from derailleur. Am I missing something in the procedure of using the fine tuning? for example do I need to use the shifters in combination with the app fine adjustment set up? Or it is just simply the fine tuning function not working.

Would appreciate advise, thanks

After spending endless hours figuring out how to get all of my Wheeltop systems gears to shift smoothly, this is the process I follow these days.

1.  Perform an initial 1gear to derailleur cage alignment.
2.  Adjust the "B" screw position so that you can easily/smoothly shift up and down between the 2gear and the 1gear.   
3.  If it isn't shifting smoothly, I further adjust the initial 1-gear position, then slightly adjust the "B" screw again and again until the 2gear to 1gear and 1 gear to 2gear shift perfectly.
4.  I downshift to the lowest cassette cog and tune the lowest cog so that it shifts smoothly between the lowest cog and the next lowest (12gear to 11gear and 11 gear back up onto the 12 gear) - Double checking and being sure that the limit screw is not keeping the derailleur from shifting all the way onto the lowest gear

5.  Then I make sure that the derailleur cage isn't too close or far away from the lowest cog and that these gears shift up and down smoothly.   If it doesn't shift perfect between the 12gear and 11gear, I play with the "B" screw until its shifts perfect.
6.  Next, I shift all the way back down to the 1gear and test to see if it still shifts smoothly in the 1gear to 2 gear, back and forth. (Then I tweek the "B" screw some more, until the derailleur shifts perfect on both ends of the cassette.
7.  I start shifting one-by-one across all of the cogs, up and down, and perform my individual fine tuning of each gear. 

Al least for me, this iteration process has let me get almost perfect and silent shifting.

One other thing I discovered on several of my OX derailleurs is that the relative position/distance of my 1gear (10-tooth cog) to the outside flat surface that the derailleur mounts on varies between bikes.  I experimented with the initial 1gear calibration setting to discover that I was reaching the App adjustment limit of the derailleur and that there can be a shifting "dead zone" between trying adjust the step count number required to shift from the 1gear to the 2gear.   I could always shift out of the 1gear to the 2gear, but could never shift back into the 1gear from the 2gear.   I ended up installing a 2mm wide washer between the hanger and derailleur bolt, readjusted the initial 1gear calibration, and all of my shifting problems went away.   (I did not have this issue setting up my TX system.)



fhill

Re: WheelTop EDS TX Full Wireless Groupset (Chinese SRAM)
« Reply #483 on: March 15, 2025, 01:51:02 PM »
why not Ltwoo ERX or ER9?

I've got the Wheeltop here and the Ultegra Di2 can be found quite easily used online. No other reason than that.

jonathanf2

Re: WheelTop EDS TX Full Wireless Groupset (Chinese SRAM)
« Reply #484 on: March 17, 2025, 11:25:21 AM »
Anyone chance buying the Wheeletop EDS TX from AliEx sellers? The prices are starting to drop down to ER9 prices around the $400-500 USD range. The big issue is lack of warranty coverage from Wheeltop. The Twitter Store on AliEx looks like they're selling OEM packages for their bike builds on the side.

Tijoe

Re: WheelTop EDS TX Full Wireless Groupset (Chinese SRAM)
« Reply #485 on: March 17, 2025, 02:14:17 PM »
Anyone chance buying the Wheeletop EDS TX from AliEx sellers? The prices are starting to drop down to ER9 prices around the $400-500 USD range. The big issue is lack of warranty coverage from Wheeltop. The Twitter Store on AliEx looks like they're selling OEM packages for their bike builds on the side.
I did a search on EDS TX groups.  For the carbon hydraulic version of the TX group,  I didn't find any lower prices than I paid for my TX group last year.

Can you post a link to what you have found to be better prices?

coffeebreak

Re: WheelTop EDS TX Full Wireless Groupset (Chinese SRAM)
« Reply #486 on: March 17, 2025, 03:03:22 PM »
Disregard, I linked the GEX - you guys are talking about TX.

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Not that I am in the market now but I have this $455-500 EDS TX in my cart from pre-tariff days:

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256807839528218.html

Considering the EGR has gone up in prices to close to $500 (80s designer store, others are cheaper) this price seems pretty close to LTWoo's.
« Last Edit: March 17, 2025, 03:05:07 PM by coffeebreak »

jonathanf2

Re: WheelTop EDS TX Full Wireless Groupset (Chinese SRAM)
« Reply #487 on: March 17, 2025, 06:12:22 PM »
I did a search on EDS TX groups.  For the carbon hydraulic version of the TX group,  I didn't find any lower prices than I paid for my TX group last year.

Can you post a link to what you have found to be better prices?

I was looking at the alloy EDS TX which puts inline with regular price LTwoo ER9. Carbon EDS TX is closer to carbon ERX.

Here's the store I was looking at:
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256808019608112.html

jonathanf2

Re: WheelTop EDS TX Full Wireless Groupset (Chinese SRAM)
« Reply #488 on: March 17, 2025, 06:14:54 PM »
Considering the EGR has gone up in prices to close to $500 (80s designer store, others are cheaper) this price seems pretty close to LTWoo's.

When I saw the eGR at $300 USD during the Black Friday sales, I jumped on it. It's a seriously good groupset and I've already tested mine in the rain and desert. The only downside is the somewhat conservative in-spec 46t max cog. I would have preferred at least 50t on the back.

coffeebreak

Re: WheelTop EDS TX Full Wireless Groupset (Chinese SRAM)
« Reply #489 on: March 17, 2025, 07:31:53 PM »
When I saw the eGR at $300 USD during the Black Friday sales, I jumped on it. It's a seriously good groupset and I've already tested mine in the rain and desert. The only downside is the somewhat conservative in-spec 46t max cog. I would have preferred at least 50t on the back.

I am okay with 46t as my gravel isn't that crazy. Almost all the Exx groups have gone up in price if you are not buying from LTWoo's official store. That store is dicey, however. I bought 3 times last year and every time it was sent back to the sender without ever reaching me. I think it was a sign from powers that be to not buy it  :D Now I am not risking it with any big purchases for at least some time even though these current coupons are very lucrative.

Rebel_Yell

Re: WheelTop EDS TX Full Wireless Groupset (Chinese SRAM)
« Reply #490 on: March 20, 2025, 09:55:47 AM »
I was looking at the alloy EDS TX which puts inline with regular price LTwoo ER9. Carbon EDS TX is closer to carbon ERX.

Here's the store I was looking at:
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256808019608112.html

Best deal I have seen yet and with Anniversary Sale it gets even better.

Tijoe

Re: WheelTop EDS TX Full Wireless Groupset (Chinese SRAM)
« Reply #491 on: March 20, 2025, 10:40:30 AM »
Does anyone have any experience using both the original hydraulic 7000 series calipers and Wheeltop's new 7800 series hydraulic calipers?    Stopping power? weight differences?  heat dissipation?  durability?    Thanks.

Tijoe

Re: WheelTop EDS TX Full Wireless Groupset (Chinese SRAM)
« Reply #492 on: March 21, 2025, 11:39:07 AM »
Best deal I have seen yet and with Anniversary Sale it gets even better.

I went ahead and purchased another EDS TX package from the Twitter store.   I purchased the version with carbon levers, carbon derailleur cage, and 7800 hydraulic calipers for $426 USD.  (After sale price, coins and Aliexpress coupons.)  $100 less than the original EDS TX system Ipurchased last year.

amacal1

Re: WheelTop EDS TX Full Wireless Groupset (Chinese SRAM)
« Reply #493 on: March 21, 2025, 01:37:59 PM »
Sorry, I don't keep up with this thread and I had a hard time picking through it.

I know that, officially, Wheeltop will not provide support if it was bought on Aliexpress (i.e. outside their distribution network). But, has anyone managed to get after-sales support from their Aliexpress vendor?

Tijoe

Re: WheelTop EDS TX Full Wireless Groupset (Chinese SRAM)
« Reply #494 on: March 22, 2025, 12:23:13 AM »
Sorry, I don't keep up with this thread and I had a hard time picking through it.

I know that, officially, Wheeltop will not provide support if it was bought on Aliexpress (i.e. outside their distribution network). But, has anyone managed to get after-sales support from their Aliexpress vendor?
The "Twitter Bike Store" that I just purchased my Wheeltop EDS TX kit from stated to me that they are an authorized seller of Wheeltop products.   Twitter appears to be Wheeltop's largest domestic OEM bike seller on aliexpress.   There is also one other store on Aliexpress that states they are an authorized reseller of Wheeltop EDS systems.   Weko LIN Bicycle store also states they are an approved Wheeltop seller.

- I interpret this as these 2 stores will work with you to have Wheeltop warranty the product they sold to you, or they may chose to send you replacements for you defective or failed parts.   

If the store is not an authorized store, Wheeltop will requests that you send the failed parts back to the store that sold them to you and YOU have to convince and prove to the store how and why the parts failed, and then the store will send you replacement parts.    (What I found out is that the store I dealt with told me to ship the parts back to them at my cost and they would warranty them.  Shipping back to China was more expensive than what I paid for the parts.)