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gf:
Dear all, i am looking some gravel frame from China, in order to build a companion bike for my mtb, to use during easier and longer trips.
I would like to stay on low budget project (gravel should be second choice compared to mtb).
At the moment I am considering two frame from Spcycle, G056 or G058, for good price, a lot of handlebar size and painting options; I also like the design of Carbonda cfr707, but I ask a quote and it is more expensive, so I have some questions.
- Is Carbonda better option for general quality (does it worth about 200 euro/dollars more also without the painting)?
- Is Spcycle a reliable seller?
- considering size M, for G056 and G058 the gemoetry are quite the same, but on G058 reach and top tube are shorter, does it mean more comfortable bike? Cfr707 has longer reach, tt and lower stack, is it more race oriented?
- I plan to use the gravel also for long mountain ride, on easy unpaved road with quite long climb, which geometry should be the best option? the one with longer chainstay?

If there are other good frames, felle free to suggest; only constrain is that I prefer bsa bb.
Thanks for any suggestion.

Serge_K:
I can't remember seeing BSA BB gravel bikes. The most recent ones are on T47, which is the same idea.
I dont think i've seen anyone complain about spcycle, quite the opposite. I wouldn't spend extra on a carbonda, but i think quite a few people are happy with their carbonda as well.
On geometry, bro science dictates that more reach and less stack is more aggressive indeed. Make sure you dont buy a bike that's too long, because you can use a longer stem, but you can't chop a frame.
If you like the pinarello grevil, let me know, i can put you in contact with someone who's cloned it. i'm testing it now. It's literally a clone, with more mounting points for bike packing.

Tijoe:
I purchased a Seraph GR029 gravel frame over 4 years ago.  It has been a work horse.  I have around 10,000 miles on this frame/bike.  To date I love this build.

I also like Spcycle frames.  I purchased one of their 29er hardtail frames a few years ago. It is my back-up gravel machine.  Since it is a 29er frame, I swap between a 100mm travel Suspension fork and a rigid carbon fork and either run flat bars or put on carbon  "H" bars.  This bike configured as a gravel bike with the suspension fork is actually faster on a lot of the rougher gravel roads and trails I use it for.

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/2255800631693777.html

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256802796251755.html

FullCarbonAlchemist:
I’m on my third Carbonda build — a CFR 707 arriving in the next few weeks — and I’d be far from alone in steering you that direction. They’re worth the modest premium, which I should note is still way less than their branded equivalents.

Personally I get all my frames in matte black and add red parts/decals so I don’t pay for painting, but they do a decent job at that too.

My FM1002 and FM1003 feel great, have elevated my riding, and hold up under absolutely legendary levels of punishment. I expect the same from my 707 when it’s built.

gf:
Thanks a lot for your feedback; at the end I think i will go with Spcycle g058, for geometry (I tetsed a cannondale Topstone of a friend in size m and was quite ok, but if the future gravel should be little shorter I think is better for me) and design. I am considering solid or metallic paint; do their paint job worth the extra money?
Thanks

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