Author Topic: New frame: Longteng RD301-D  (Read 53063 times)

kwantani

Re: New frame: Longteng RD301-D
« Reply #240 on: February 10, 2025, 03:47:26 AM »
Yes I raised this concern on lack of clearance between downtube and small chainring, when I first got my RD301d. I applied some protective tapes on the downtube/BB area where I think it has a high risk of being scratched should the chain dropped.

Hello
I have just received my Tantan FM301 size 58. Ordered in December and received end of Jan.

Overall pretty satisfied with what i have seen so far and attention to details but i am still building the bike.

However i am very surprised and concerned by the lack of clearance between the frame and the small chainring. The original plan was to fit a Rotor Adlhu crank that i had but i will have to buy a new axle with bigger Q factor (Gravel 24mm axle with 152mm Q). I don't think this bike should be built with a regular road axle (147mm Q for Rotor Aldhu). The issue is coming from the downtube being almost as wide as the BB.

What do you think ?

Serge_K

Re: New frame: Longteng RD301-D
« Reply #241 on: February 10, 2025, 04:37:12 AM »
What do you think ?
It either fits, or it doesnt. The chain is always far away from the area where the ring almost meets the frame. As long as this "almost" is more than zero by a sufficient margin to maybe allow for some flex and grit, then no problem. And sometimes you have to use a shim. I had the problem with a non shimano crankset on a velobuild gravel frame, i had to shim it a tiny bit. It just needs to clear the frame, you dont need ample space.
Fast on the flat. And nowhere else.

kwantani

Re: New frame: Longteng RD301-D
« Reply #242 on: February 10, 2025, 09:16:31 PM »
Existing RD301d users, does your headset rubbing with the upper headtube when turning? Mine does. Plan to grind off the plastic cover spacer that's rubbing with the headtube. If it happened on yours how do you address it?

Chiyou

Re: New frame: Longteng RD301-D
« Reply #243 on: February 11, 2025, 07:48:25 PM »
Existing RD301d users, does your headset rubbing with the upper headtube when turning? Mine does. Plan to grind off the plastic cover spacer that's rubbing with the headtube. If it happened on yours how do you address it?

Maybe use a headset shim, something like this? https://shop.fullspeedahead.com/en/spacers/road-mtb/micro-spacer

julienb

Re: New frame: Longteng RD301-D
« Reply #244 on: February 12, 2025, 03:02:19 AM »
It either fits, or it doesnt. The chain is always far away from the area where the ring almost meets the frame. As long as this "almost" is more than zero by a sufficient margin to maybe allow for some flex and grit, then no problem. And sometimes you have to use a shim. I had the problem with a non shimano crankset on a velobuild gravel frame, i had to shim it a tiny bit. It just needs to clear the frame, you dont need ample space.

Well, i disagree. There needs to be a minimum gap, at least as wide as a chain width to cope with chain fall off, debris...

And in my case, my power meter does not fit. Hopefully it will with the gravel axle and 3mm worth of spacers.

kwantani

Re: New frame: Longteng RD301-D
« Reply #245 on: February 16, 2025, 06:36:47 PM »
Thanks you for the pointer! Q: how much works to install a headset shim like this? Need to re-do all the internal cabling routing over the HS?

Maybe use a headset shim, something like this? https://shop.fullspeedahead.com/en/spacers/road-mtb/micro-spacer

Chiyou

Re: New frame: Longteng RD301-D
« Reply #246 on: February 17, 2025, 06:11:58 PM »
I should have been more careful in my advice: chances are that you'll want a C-shaped shim rather than an O-shaped one. See part 04 on this Deda parts diagram as an example (part code HDDCRMS - DCR microspacer).

https://dedaelementi.com/media/catalog/product/attachment//d/c/dcr_headsets.pdf

Hopefully, a C-shim won't require much disassembly; make sure though that the dimensions of the shim match those of your headset.

maza

Re: New frame: Longteng RD301-D
« Reply #247 on: February 17, 2025, 06:15:53 PM »
I should have been more careful in my advice: chances are that you'll want a C-shaped shim rather than an O-shaped one. See part 04 on this Deda parts diagram as an example (part code HDDCRMS - DCR microspacer).

https://dedaelementi.com/media/catalog/product/attachment//d/c/dcr_headsets.pdf

Hopefully, a C-shim won't require much disassembly; make sure though that the dimensions of the shim match those of your headset.
Side cutters are great for converting O-shaped things to C-shapes.

kwantani

Re: New frame: Longteng RD301-D
« Reply #248 on: February 18, 2025, 07:04:44 PM »
Thanks for clarifying. Yeah C shim seems more straight forward, can just insert it without disassemble the whole HS stack.

Ahodesu05

Re: New frame: Longteng RD301-D
« Reply #249 on: March 07, 2025, 01:34:25 AM »
Dumb question incoming: does anyone know what the heck this is?

I was cleaning my drive train, specifically the cassette, when this plastic thing fell off. (At first I thought it was a huge piece of gunk lol.) Is it part of the rear derailleur or something?

Dan S.

Re: New frame: Longteng RD301-D
« Reply #250 on: March 07, 2025, 02:13:57 AM »
Dumb question incoming: does anyone know what the heck this is?

Seems to me like the Di2 cable clip from your RD.

Ahodesu05

Re: New frame: Longteng RD301-D
« Reply #251 on: March 07, 2025, 07:06:23 AM »
Seems to me like the Di2 cable clip from your RD.

Thanks, you’re right. The clip slides in but doesn’t seem be held in place - it feels like it can fall off pretty easily, or am I doing it wrong?

BeR

Re: New frame: Longteng RD301-D
« Reply #252 on: March 07, 2025, 07:30:09 AM »
Thanks, you’re right. The clip slides in but doesn’t seem be held in place - it feels like it can fall off pretty easily, or am I doing it wrong?

It is normal that it moves around its axle.

Re: New frame: Longteng RD301-D
« Reply #253 on: March 15, 2025, 05:57:57 PM »
I got my 301D (54cm) delivered! I'll attach pictures as I go through the build. Quick initial question: the headset I got through longteng included a crown race and/or pressing ring. The fork appears to have an integrated crown race, and a quick, dry install indicated it didn't need one. Also, a video posted here from the Longteng factory had the workers putting a crown race on a fork. What do you all think?

julienb

Re: New frame: Longteng RD301-D
« Reply #254 on: March 17, 2025, 03:45:01 PM »
For those asking about zero seatpost. Here's the measurements of the seatpost:
front view: 26mm
side view: 45.5mm

not a very common measurements as far as I know. But check out this Ali ad:
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256807058255216.html
look at the SP045 seatpost, at least one of the measurement matched, you need to confirm with the seller about the side measurement and whether it's zero offset (looks like it could be).

Wishing you luck finding one on Ali....

Hi

Has anyone find a zero offset seatpost to match this frame design ? Desperately looking for one as Tantan does not make it.
Thanks,