Seka Spear

[raisinberry777]

I'd add Elilee Blize in there too which is around $1700 USD (judging off Australian prices) and 780g. They claim that it has been aero tested. There's also the XXE version at 680g and $2500 USD

[Petr (CyclistsHub.com)]

Can we make a list of these 700-800g +/- aero high dollar Chinese brand frames?

So far I see:

Winspace Agile (probably) 950g M $1980
Seka Spear RDC (probably) 850g M $2700
Seka Spear regular weight ?? $2158
Incolor Intropy Speedster regular (probably) 950g $1764 dunno availability in the West
Incolor Intropy Speedster Plus (probably) 870g $2592
Tavelo Arow Superlight (probably) 850g $2380

I write "probably" because all these weights listed are unpainted, figuring paint adds another 100-150g so I added 120g for the paint to the listed weight.

Owner of the Agile here; below are the pictures of the actual weights of the fork, seatpost, and frame in size 51. I had YOELEO R12 previously, and the Agile is much more comfortable and "lively." A full video review is coming soon; the written one is already on my website. 

[repoman]

That is quite a lot more than advertised! What size frame is that?

[toxin]

Thatf frame weight in 51 is insane, winspace keep on losing credibility

[Takiyaki]

Just to point out, the prevailing trend is to fit higher stack, longer reach, narrower handlebar, minimum saddle setback, shorter cranks. Basically to try and achieve the same (or more aggressive) hip angle as you'd get from the old slam-that-stem bike-fit, but move the arms and hands further up to make the aero hoods position easier. (see Victor Campenaerts's latest Orbea Orca video)

This one?

https://youtu.be/ggLLTUYgWUE?si=OWITNpDd_MZTJCYA

He didn't say much about the fit. I am trying to find out more info about the "modern" fit. I moved down to 38 cm bars but I feel like I need more reach. I just ordered a new frame and I feel like I made the wrong decision- it's basically the same as my current one.

[repoman]

Man, what happened to super light Chinese frames? I had a Dengfu way back in like 2014 that was 700g.  Now it seems like the 'super light weight' frames list fake weights.
I wonder if this latex mandrel method of making frames is making them heavier somehow.

[repoman]

I'd add Elilee Blize in there too which is around $1700 USD (judging off Australian prices) and 780g. They claim that it has been aero tested. There's also the XXE version at 680g and $2500 USD

This is a really nice looking bike. The weight weenie thread on it is interesting...seems like quality is all over the place and the company is run by douchebags, but if you get a good frame, it's fantastic.
Way too expensive though...you can get a non S-works Specialized Aethos for $3000 which will be lighter than the Elilee super lightweight at $2500.
 

[radfactor]

All those so called premium Chinese Bike is so expensive yet the weight is not as per advertised. I do prefer buying a counterfeit SL8 with weight of 730gm after measured.

[joegal]

All those so called premium Chinese Bike is so expensive yet the weight is not as per advertised. I do prefer buying a counterfeit SL8 with weight of 730gm after measured.

Do you have experience with the replica SL8? I saw that airwolf actually sells one on their website (besides the numerous listings from different sellers on Ali). Weight/price seems very good, but they might be lacking stiffness...

[radfactor]

My friend bought it. Frame received in splendid condition and now waiting for assembly and test ride.

Do you have experience with the replica SL8? I saw that airwolf actually sells one on their website (besides the numerous listings from different sellers on Ali). Weight/price seems very good, but they might be lacking stiffness...

[joegal]

My friend bought it. Frame received in splendid condition and now waiting for assembly and test ride.

Great, would love to read a post about that with pictures

[patliean1]

My friend bought it. Frame received in splendid condition and now waiting for assembly and test ride.

As an SL8 owner, I am very tempted to buy one just to compare 
Although VeloBuild's VB-268 feels nothing like a Tarmac.

[joegal]

As an SL8 owner, I am very tempted to buy one just to compare 
Although VeloBuild's VB-268 feels nothing like a Tarmac.

Do it! Would be very controversial, but also really interesting 

[patliean1]

Do it! Would be very controversial, but also really interesting 

On second thought...
The AI generated marketing phrases are both laughable and concerning. And they still misspelled words.

"Make friends with the wind."
"1:1 DESGIN"
"T1100 Carbon"
"If it looks fast, it probably is"

I can't get jiggy with any of this.