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carbonbuyer

Magene PES P505 base powermeter very poor upshifting
« on: November 05, 2024, 04:31:58 PM »
Hi!

I recently purchased the P505 base powermeter, and the powerreadings seem to be quite good, but the upshifting on the front mech is god-awful.

Previously i could upshift under insane amounts of torque super sharply. Right now even when putting out 100 watts, the chain will not upshift! only when applying almost zero torque and then pedaling (under 80 watts) will it upshift.

My setup: SM-BB72 bottom bracket
Ultegra R8100 DI2 setup

I had to adjust my Di2 from +0 to +12 for the system to upshift to the big ring at all. Chosing a higher number is not possible since then there's chain rub. I even decided to make the chain rub a bit when using the biggest cog of the casette, to make the FD push the chain even more towards the big cog, but no luck.

I'm using the shimano chainrings i used before (ultegra 52-36 or smth like that)

Any tips/solutions?
« Last Edit: November 05, 2024, 04:40:27 PM by carbonbuyer »



SirBikealot

Re: Magene PES P505 base powermeter very poor upshifting
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2024, 05:12:40 PM »
Hi!

I recently purchased the P505 base powermeter, and the powerreadings seem to be quite good, but the upshifting on the front mech is god-awful.

Previously i could upshift under insane amounts of torque super sharply. Right now even when putting out 100 watts, the chain will not upshift! only when applying almost zero torque and then pedaling (under 80 watts) will it upshift.

My setup: SM-BB72 bottom bracket
Ultegra R8100 DI2 setup

I had to adjust my Di2 from +0 to +12 for the system to upshift to the big ring at all. Chosing a higher number is not possible since then there's chain rub. I even decided to make the chain rub a bit when using the biggest cog of the casette, to make the FD push the chain even more towards the big cog, but no luck.

I'm using the shimano chainrings i used before (ultegra 52-36 or smth like that)

Any tips/solutions?

maybe a supid suggestion (i have to admit i did it myself) but is the small chainring upfront mounted in the correct direction? Had some similar problems which where solved by turning the small in the way it should be.

carbonbuyer

Re: Magene PES P505 base powermeter very poor upshifting
« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2024, 06:50:13 AM »
yup it's in the right direction and right way up (though that last part was by accident, only when researching yesterday did i find out that one is directional as well).

I even tried flipping the front chainring, but then the chain falls in between the two chainrings sometimes..


Also that still doesnt explain why i would need a +12 adjustment, which is wayyyy to much IMHO (that messes up the chainline bigtime)

carbonbuyer

Re: Magene PES P505 base powermeter very poor upshifting
« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2024, 05:39:08 AM »
Magene support is at least very responsive on aliexpress. Now they want to know what frame i have. How that will affect anything, i'm very interested (since it uses the standard external shimano BB, and standard shimano r8100 crank)

James dean

Re: Magene PES P505 base powermeter very poor upshifting
« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2024, 11:21:28 AM »
when a fd wont shift upwards its usually never the crank. Its 99.9% the fd is set up wrong