Please start using Mywhoosh?

[Sebastian]

Seems like a big part of my local Strava bubble migrated from Zwift to MyWhoosh this winter.
I think it's a good thing that there's pressure on Zwift. I think they're just plain lazy on a lot of fronts: when it comes to introducing new courses and features, the logics and and complexity of the workouts, the graphics. Maybe it will force them to up their game.

[Serge_K]

Maybe it will force them to up their game.

They've torched so much money from investors and the CEO sounds like such a tool, i wouldn't hold my breath.
I'm level 32 on mywhoosh now (i transferred my points from zwift). The grahpics are way better, the workouts make a lot more sense and there's clearly been some input from real coaches.
I run it on a mini pc with a really fast SSD, 16gb ram, and an AMD Ryzen 7 7840HS. All the settings are maxed out.
I dont love it though. The gamification isn't as good as zwift, so you're much less tempted to cycle the extra 5 - 10 - 15min because of X Y Z. There are more worlds and routes, but it's a bit bogus, in reality, you're criss crossing a lot. The avatar is a bit clunky, when you're out of the saddle, for eg. The interaction of the avatar w other avatar (overlap, moving aside) is quite bad. The aerodynamics are totally useless because i bought the TT bike and the disc, and i'm not going any faster. This is disappointing, i enjoyed geeking out on zwift finding the best gear for a course.
But in the bigger scheme of things, I like it.
I ve also used training peaks virtual a couple of times, it's not bad, but i think mywhoosh has much more potential. mywhoosh is trying various things, for a few weeks they had a complex coin / credits system, and this is largely gone, afaik. Given where Zwift is and when they started, vs where mywhoosh is vs when they started, it doesnt reflect well on zwift.
It seems to me that zwift is focusing on getting more people on the game, with marketing, rather than improving the game in any meaningful way. That and being woke AF. Meanwhile mywhoosh is improving, and in graphics and structured training sessions alone, is streets ahead.

[bremerradkurier]

Loved going to Six Day Races back in the day-virtual cycling that would gamify that up to and including old school, super loud two stroke keirin pacing and bands playing in the oval would be awesome.

[Sebastian]

MyWhoosh taking up a huge heap of disk space and yet half of the routes are usually not available, at least temporarily. That annoys me the most. The gamification aspect is totally irrelevant for me. I'm all about structured workouts. Riding speed, elevation gain and the likes I don't care about.

Edit: What's the deal with the season pass? Is this some sort of precursor of MyWhoosh becoming subscription based as well?

[Serge_K]

MyWhoosh taking up a huge heap of disk space and yet half of the routes are usually not available, at least temporarily. That annoys me the most. The gamification aspect is totally irrelevant for me. I'm all about structured workouts. Riding speed, elevation gain and the likes I don't care about.

Edit: What's the deal with the season pass? Is this some sort of precursor of MyWhoosh becoming subscription based as well?

Disk space in 2025... Sure, but that's a really cheap problem to address with a usb stick or another drive, or maybe it's time to upgrade your storage generally because GB are really, really cheap these days. I kind of had that issue myself, then realized i was making my life unnecessarily difficult, and just bought more space, really doesnt have to cost much at all.
How hungry the game is performance wise is a much more real consideration, i'd say, because you do need a competent machine for a good experience. No need to go overkill, but it can't be an old ass PC.
On gamification, i thought i didnt care, and found myself riding much more last year because of zwift, precisely because of the gamification. While on an indoor ride, pre-zwift, i'd feel like giving up way sooner. Given that we should all probably riding our bikes more, i want to give them credit for that.
The routes being unavailable is to concentrate users together so you're not riding alone for 20min on the flat, the routes available rotate pretty much every day.
The season pass thing, not sure, i do know they are trying weird things with all sorts of points and gimmicks, i guess they're trying things. Unlike Zwift, they are new in town, so you'd expect them to try stuff. Zwift has been the same largely mediocre game for many years now.

[Sebastian]

Disk space in 2025... Sure, but that's a really cheap problem to address with a usb stick or another drive, or maybe it's time to upgrade your storage generally because GB are really, really cheap these days.

Forgive my ignorance: Sure, GBs are cheap and I got drives lying around. But how does an external storage help with that? I'm using the app on my MacBook and iPhone. As with many other devices in this day and age, upgrading the internal storage on those is no option.

[kbernstein]

Forgive my ignorance: Sure, GBs are cheap and I got drives lying around. But how does an external storage help with that? I'm using the app on my MacBook and iPhone. As with many other devices in this day and age, upgrading the internal storage on those is no option.

You can run either move your disk speed insensitive files such as photos on the external storage to make room for the program on the internal storage, or just run programs from a USB stick or external SSD. It will be slower to boot but it works. 22GB isn't that much space. There are legit, genuine 64gb kodak microSDs for 2e on ali
(It's also fucking crazy how apple slipped through EU regulators with soldered RAM and storage)

[Serge_K]

Forgive my ignorance: Sure, GBs are cheap and I got drives lying around. But how does an external storage help with that? I'm using the app on my MacBook and iPhone. As with many other devices in this day and age, upgrading the internal storage on those is no option.

Ah, you're on Apple... the plague of modernity. I make no comments on Apple stuff, it drives me insane, i had a tablet from them once, i got violent because of how insulting it was to my intelligence so many times that i gave it to my mom. She loves it. I can't.

[j4m1eb]

Forgive my ignorance: Sure, GBs are cheap and I got drives lying around. But how does an external storage help with that? I'm using the app on my MacBook and iPhone. As with many other devices in this day and age, upgrading the internal storage on those is no option.

You could run it from an external drive even on a mac.

Honestly though just TrainingPeaks virtual, the physics are SOOO much better. Racing can actaully be trusted and it runs great on a Mac or iPhone.

Haters gonna hate 

[user757]

They've torched so much money from investors and the CEO sounds like such a tool, i wouldn't hold my breath.
I'm level 32 on mywhoosh now (i transferred my points from zwift). The grahpics are way better, the workouts make a lot more sense and there's clearly been some input from real coaches.
I run it on a mini pc with a really fast SSD, 16gb ram, and an AMD Ryzen 7 7840HS. All the settings are maxed out.
I dont love it though. The gamification isn't as good as zwift, so you're much less tempted to cycle the extra 5 - 10 - 15min because of X Y Z. There are more worlds and routes, but it's a bit bogus, in reality, you're criss crossing a lot. The avatar is a bit clunky, when you're out of the saddle, for eg. The interaction of the avatar w other avatar (overlap, moving aside) is quite bad. The aerodynamics are totally useless because i bought the TT bike and the disc, and i'm not going any faster. This is disappointing, i enjoyed geeking out on zwift finding the best gear for a course.
But in the bigger scheme of things, I like it.
I ve also used training peaks virtual a couple of times, it's not bad, but i think mywhoosh has much more potential. mywhoosh is trying various things, for a few weeks they had a complex coin / credits system, and this is largely gone, afaik. Given where Zwift is and when they started, vs where mywhoosh is vs when they started, it doesnt reflect well on zwift.
It seems to me that zwift is focusing on getting more people on the game, with marketing, rather than improving the game in any meaningful way. That and being woke AF. Meanwhile mywhoosh is improving, and in graphics and structured training sessions alone, is streets ahead.

Got a Kickr Core about a month ago. I'm currently trialing Zwift and about to give Rouvy a try, but with warmer months almost upon us I'll probably not use one of the paid services until next fall/winter. I'll likely be using MyWhoosh on weekdays and the odd rainy weekend days.