Author Topic: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?  (Read 251212 times)

Sander2177

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #1215 on: June 05, 2025, 11:14:13 AM »
It's not the lightest frame in the chinese carbon market. but in this price range it's prolly top 5.


Not sure if I would ride anything like these frame lighter than this one 788g is pretty light.
What’s the top 5 then I’m intrested
SL8 Custom Green Over Naked Carbon 54CM 6.11KGS RhinosWorkShop Build (5.9kgs Est with upgrades on way)

X68 UD Gloss Bare Carbon 54cm 6.45kgs

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Yunglord

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #1216 on: June 05, 2025, 12:54:31 PM »

Not sure if I would ride anything like these frame lighter than this one 788g is pretty light.
What’s the top 5 then I’m intrested

Elilee Blize XXE
Seka Spear RDC
TFSA JH-33 or 35 not too sure but 680g like the aboves.

And surely I am missing some other options.

I miswrote my first message but in this price range it's top with the TFSA so far.


Sander2177

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #1217 on: June 05, 2025, 01:04:28 PM »
Elilee Blize XXE
Seka Spear RDC
TFSA JH-33 or 35 not too sure but 680g like the aboves.

And surely I am missing some other options.

I miswrote my first message but in this price range it's top with the TFSA so far.



Hmm… I was actually referring more to OEM frames, open-mold options, and direct copies.

Eililee and Seka are premium Chinese brands — I wouldn’t group them with something like the TanTan X68. TFSA maybe, since you can find those on AliExpress.

That said, from what I’ve seen, Seka frames often don’t hit their claimed weights, which is something to keep in mind.
« Last Edit: June 05, 2025, 01:06:27 PM by Sander2177 »
SL8 Custom Green Over Naked Carbon 54CM 6.11KGS RhinosWorkShop Build (5.9kgs Est with upgrades on way)

X68 UD Gloss Bare Carbon 54cm 6.45kgs

IG @sanderson7721

Yunglord

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #1218 on: June 05, 2025, 01:22:25 PM »


Hmm… I was actually referring more to OEM frames, open-mold options, and direct copies.

Eililee and Seka are premium Chinese brands — I wouldn’t group them with something like the TanTan X68. TFSA maybe, since you can find those on AliExpress.

That said, from what I’ve seen, Seka frames often don’t hit their claimed weights, which is something to keep in mind.

Above message said Chinese Carbon market which is what I replied to!

Sander2177

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #1219 on: June 05, 2025, 01:39:15 PM »
Above message said Chinese Carbon market which is what I replied to!



Hmmmm still   cannot rank like that in my opinion

You  have like
Winspace
Incolour

Are you ranking brands or OEM manufactures?

Technically 99% of bike are Chinese
 

SL8 Custom Green Over Naked Carbon 54CM 6.11KGS RhinosWorkShop Build (5.9kgs Est with upgrades on way)

X68 UD Gloss Bare Carbon 54cm 6.45kgs

IG @sanderson7721

Yunglord

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #1220 on: June 05, 2025, 01:49:05 PM »


Hmmmm still   cannot rank like that in my opinion

You  have like
Winspace
Incolour

Are you ranking brands or OEM manufactures?

Technically 99% of bike are Chinese

I never mentioned OEM, the previous poster said Chinese market which should also include Chinese brand even if they market more internationally.

Anyway back to the topic I want more feedback on the ride quality compared to your SL8 and previous SL7.



Sander2177

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #1221 on: June 05, 2025, 02:07:30 PM »
I never mentioned OEM, the previous poster said Chinese market which should also include Chinese brand even if they market more internationally.

Anyway back to the topic I want more feedback on the ride quality compared to your SL8 and previous SL7.

Fair enough. As for the SL7—well, the SL8 is noticeably more comfortable to ride, so in that respect, you could say the X68 has more in common with the SL7.

Like I said, it’s a good frame so far. I’m actually surprised—surprised enough that it made me raise an eyebrow!
But let’s be clear: it’s not an SL8. The SL8 offers a smoother, more refined ride, as I’ve mentioned. I’m no expert, but even doing something as basic as the tap test on the down tube and top tube, they sound different. Not very scientific, I know, but it says something.

In terms of stiffness, the X68 is right up there—even the bars feel solid. This bike is definitely planted, not a noodle.

Five years ago, I wouldn’t have gone near a copy or fake frame, but they’ve come a long way—very close now.
It’s a bit like the 1:1 Rolex clones—experts now need loupes and specialised equipment just to spot the fakes. That’s how close these frames are getting. Manufacturers will have to step up to stay ahead.

« Last Edit: June 05, 2025, 02:10:38 PM by Sander2177 »
SL8 Custom Green Over Naked Carbon 54CM 6.11KGS RhinosWorkShop Build (5.9kgs Est with upgrades on way)

X68 UD Gloss Bare Carbon 54cm 6.45kgs

IG @sanderson7721

Davidhe23

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #1222 on: Today at 06:38:12 AM »
Fair enough. As for the SL7—well, the SL8 is noticeably more comfortable to ride, so in that respect, you could say the X68 has more in common with the SL7.

Like I said, it’s a good frame so far. I’m actually surprised—surprised enough that it made me raise an eyebrow!
But let’s be clear: it’s not an SL8. The SL8 offers a smoother, more refined ride, as I’ve mentioned. I’m no expert, but even doing something as basic as the tap test on the down tube and top tube, they sound different. Not very scientific, I know, but it says something.

In terms of stiffness, the X68 is right up there—even the bars feel solid. This bike is definitely planted, not a noodle.

Five years ago, I wouldn’t have gone near a copy or fake frame, but they’ve come a long way—very close now.
It’s a bit like the 1:1 Rolex clones—experts now need loupes and specialised equipment just to spot the fakes. That’s how close these frames are getting. Manufacturers will have to step up to stay ahead.

I wonder what the difference will be between a Pro frame and an X68.

Sander2177

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #1223 on: Today at 06:55:08 AM »
I wonder what the difference will be between a Pro frame and an X68.

That a question for Mr Lino  ;D
Frames are the same weight and i think he has had a go on an X68 if I'm not mistaken!

So have you ordered a new frame Davidhe23
SL8 Custom Green Over Naked Carbon 54CM 6.11KGS RhinosWorkShop Build (5.9kgs Est with upgrades on way)

X68 UD Gloss Bare Carbon 54cm 6.45kgs

IG @sanderson7721

patliean1

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #1224 on: Today at 10:04:31 AM »
I wonder what the difference will be between a Pro frame and an X68.

That a question for Mr Lino  ;D

My Pro frame in a size 56 satin blue came in at 827g 8)

Sander2177

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #1225 on: Today at 10:42:42 AM »
My Pro frame in a size 56 satin blue came in at 827g 8)


You managed to have a spin on the X68 at all??
SL8 Custom Green Over Naked Carbon 54CM 6.11KGS RhinosWorkShop Build (5.9kgs Est with upgrades on way)

X68 UD Gloss Bare Carbon 54cm 6.45kgs

IG @sanderson7721

cramy

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #1226 on: Today at 01:15:58 PM »
hello 185cm, 91 inseam, which size will you recommend? 56 or 58?

Sander2177

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #1227 on: Today at 03:18:47 PM »
hello 185cm, 91 inseam, which size will you recommend? 56 or 58?


Given your height (185 cm) and inseam (91 cm), both sizes could work, but they offer different riding positions:
   •   Size 56: Offers a more aggressive, race-oriented position with a lower front end. Suitable if you prefer a stretched-out posture and are comfortable with a longer stem or more seatpost extension.
   •   Size 58: Provides a more upright position with a taller head tube. Better if you prioritize comfort over aerodynamics or have a longer torso.


SL8 Custom Green Over Naked Carbon 54CM 6.11KGS RhinosWorkShop Build (5.9kgs Est with upgrades on way)

X68 UD Gloss Bare Carbon 54cm 6.45kgs

IG @sanderson7721

pandinoyoung

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #1228 on: Today at 03:19:09 PM »
hello 185cm, 91 inseam, which size will you recommend? 56 or 58?

I am 181cm tall and have a 93cm inside leg, I am disproportionate :(  I bought 58

Davidhe23

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #1229 on: Today at 04:33:55 PM »
That a question for Mr Lino;D
Frames are the same weight and I think he has had a go on an X68 if I'm not mistaken!

So have you ordered a new frame Davidhe23?


Yes, I've already ordered it, I don't really like the color or the letters Sworks, but it was the only one they had in stock to ship.
I'll test the X68 SEATPOST under Yohobike, we'll see if it fits perfectly.