Author Topic: Deep wheels below 1300gr without breaking the bank?  (Read 1820 times)

Icyseanfitz

Re: Deep wheels below 1300gr without breaking the bank?
« Reply #15 on: November 04, 2024, 05:18:58 PM »
Can't recommend Peter from xmcarbonspeed enough

zippyzoom

Re: Deep wheels below 1300gr without breaking the bank?
« Reply #16 on: November 08, 2024, 04:25:38 PM »
What's the consensus on the best deal for wheels on 11.11?

Sakizashi

Re: Deep wheels below 1300gr without breaking the bank?
« Reply #17 on: November 09, 2024, 05:16:00 PM »
This is something I have been looking at lot at. In terms of specs needed to get there:
  • Rims: under 450g at 60mm+ depth
  • Hubs and spokes option 1: 20H Hworks hubs + carbon spokes
  • Hubs and spokes option 2: Sub 240g 6bolt or 220g CL + Alpina Hyperlight Aero, Sapim C-Xray Super

Here are the rim options I have found
  • Nextie Wave CRX 6560 wave / Elavo Carbon Store (Aliexpress): 430g, $170USD (11.11)
  • Easdon Fat Gravel 60mm: 450g (aliexpress), $142USD (11.11)

Here are the metal spoke based hub options:
  • THR Industries R3 6 bolt: ~240g: ~$450-$500 USD
  • NonPlus Gravel 6bolt: ~240g: $700+USD
  • THR Industries RX CL: ~200g: not fully sure, expect $900-$1k USD
  • NonPlus Road CL: ~200g: >$900USD

For complete wheel sets, which is where I am leaning after looking at these costs—these aren’t quite right on point but are pretty close.

  • 0011/THRIndustries: If you want a 60+mm IMO, there is both a 66mm R3 Super Light (1320-1330g with the t1100 rims and Sapim CXRay Super—still looking into cost) and one made with the RX hubs at 1275g but these are ~$2000USD. The rims are 23mm hooked internal, 31mm external at the widest part. No idea on the hooks, but these seem really close to the Scope Artech. 6.
  • XM Carbon Speed D50CU-33 with the 20H carbon spokes: <1200g and 26mm IW
  • Fitlite AR68 w/Hworks hub and carbon spokes: 68mm deep, 34mm widest pt, 22mm IW and 28mm EW at the hooks, 1370g: $1200 and with 11.11 coupons and discounts this should drop down to just over $1K

At the speeds I can hit on the flats and give my light weight, I would likely run 28mm GP5000 TT TR tires on 66mm 0011 or a mix of the 29mm Aero111 and 30mm S TR on the XM carbon speeds. I would expect the 0011 to be a bit faster but these choices are pretty close. Because the TT TR tires are lighter and 6 bolt rotors marginally lighter, I would expect 0011 R3 system weight to be within 20-30g of the RX and the XM carbon speed wheels.
« Last Edit: November 10, 2024, 02:46:45 PM by Sakizashi »

toxin

Re: Deep wheels below 1300gr without breaking the bank?
« Reply #18 on: November 09, 2024, 06:25:10 PM »
Can combo some godix hubs around 240g for less

Sakizashi

Re: Deep wheels below 1300gr without breaking the bank?
« Reply #19 on: November 12, 2024, 12:58:18 PM »
I placed the order last night for a set of wheels. It was a tough decision because we are seeing really light T1000 and T1100 layups, but many of the suppliers are releasing them only for narrower models—like those in the 28mm EW range. In other cases, they just don't want to sell them outside of Asia due to a high potential for returns. My 0011 rep sort of left me a lurch, too, so the business went to a very patient and responsive rep from a different company.

The build should come out under 1300g and I am very curious to see how they perform. Here are the specs:
  • Front rim: 50mm deep,  31mm EW (hooks), 24mm IW: ~400g
  • Rear Rim: 60mm deep, 30mm EW (hooks), 23mm IW: ~465g
  • Hubs: THR Industries R3
  • Spokes: Sapim CxRay Super with internal nipples

These are not cheap wheels at around $1150 (shipped), and I know I left 30g-40g on the table by not waiting for a lighter wheel layup that may be coming, but these are narrow enough IW for me to run GP5000 TT TR tires and wide enough that I think they should work pretty well aero-wise with those tires. Those tires, along with 6-bolt Galfer rotors, should make for a pretty light setup, while the internal nipples should help a bit to narrow the aero gap with my current setup.

The 28mm wide (hooks) and 21mm IW options were too narrow for my preference, and without a way to validate this would lead to an aero loss, I figured it would drive me to purchase another set sooner than having these built with the rim dimensions I wanted, even if they were heavier.

I will A/B test these wheels on a flat loop vs. my current wheels (Ascent Polaris 69mm) and see how they fare.
« Last Edit: November 12, 2024, 01:00:02 PM by Sakizashi »