Spcycle New Mold SP-R088 Carbon Road Frame

[user757]

SPCycle got back to me and told me the thru axle is fine, just add washers! I initially tried adding a thicker washer/spacer to the SPcycle supplied thru axle and there was still play with the wheel. It was only when I tried a thru axle that was .5mm longer is when everything tightened up properly. Minimal customer service effort from @spcycle. 

Seems like tidydinosaur might be right and that spcycle should send a replacement part...

[TidyDinosaur]

Seems like tidydinosaur might be right and that spcycle should send a replacement part...

Well, considering the price of an axle I would not bother and just get one myself. Or get a thicker washer...

[Bonus79]

Well, considering the price of an axle I would not bother and just get one myself. Or get a thicker washer...

Ok, a thru axle won't cost a fortune, but if there's a widespread problem with a component that comes with the frame, then the manufacturer should fix it.

It would be interesting to see if other users who received the frame have had the same problem, or if this is an isolated case.

[user757]

Haven't had time to start my build yet. Will have to check mine for the same issue. If it's an issue of too short threads, then a thicker or extra washer shouldn't be able to remedy it.
@jonathan-- it's not an issue of it not being up to torque spec, is it? Or, I wonder if the UDH adds width and makes extra threading necessary to engage the frame securely.

Part of me does think it's better to swap for the quick release style TAs anyway for ease of flat change on the road.

[jonathanf2]

I talked to SPcycle last night on AliEx messenging (well night for me) and they told that they are supplying multiple washers on current frames. They have already updated the frameset mold on newer frames to have a flat/flush hole instead. Anyways, I did try adding a thicker washer on the original thru axle, which did not work. It could indeed be an issue with not enough thread.

Also it is not a torque issue, the only reason I even noticed this issue was due to finding out I had play on the freehub of my second wheelset. It was driving me crazy, making me think it was the freehub and not the frameset! I also have other frames to compare with, so I was able to compare the bikes to see that it was indeed an issue with the R088 thru axle.

I've informed SPCycle that I'm relaying all the information from our chat on this thread. So hopefully they'll be a bit more attentive. I've attached the photos they've provided in regards to washers and the modified mold.

[jonathanf2]

I totally forgot @Sdfrt had this issue awhile back and used 2 washers to fix the problem:

https://chinertown.com/index.php/topic,5562.msg75160.html#msg75160

[Sdfrt]

Two washers did not solve the problem completely, but it was a little better. Spcycle compensated for the cost of a new thru axle, but it also does not fit. The axle is not compatible with the washers. The axle is 165 mm and the thread is slightly longer, the wheel is loose.

[user757]

So what is the best option here for us R088 owners--a 168mm TA with 19mm thread length? And spcycle will compensate that cost if we need one to get a proper fit?

[jonathanf2]

12x168mm 19L 1.0P thru axles seem like the best option that I've seen so far. 15mm thread length is too short. I even tried a 160mm TA with 19L and that even locked the wheel in-place. I think SPcycle didn't properly think things through when they adapted the SL8 knock-off frame swapping the RD hanger to UDH. 

[alfiomotrambo]

12x168mm 19L 1.0P thru axles seem like the best option that I've seen so far. 15mm thread length is too short. I even tried a 160mm TA with 19L and that even locked the wheel in-place. I think SPcycle didn't properly think things through when they adapted the SL8 knock-off frame swapping the RD hanger to UDH. 

Where we can get one? I was thinking of taking advantage of the alix discounts to buy the R088 frame, so that would be super useful

[user757]

Where we can get one? I was thinking of taking advantage of the alix discounts to buy the R088 frame, so that would be super useful

Jonathan has an Amazon link about ten messages above. But ali has some too

[Tilmanstoa5ty]

Is this only a problem on older frames? Because mine is fairly new and i don't seem to have any problems. There's no play on the rear wheel. Or i might need to check again

[alfiomotrambo]

Just bought it! Can't wait for it to arrive, it was a very hard decision, too many choices rn

[jonathanf2]

Is this only a problem on older frames? Because mine is fairly new and i don't seem to have any problems. There's no play on the rear wheel. Or i might need to check again

Check your frame, it's possible you have a flat thru axle non-drive side hole. Mine and a few of us early adopters have the older TA hole which requires the conical washer/spacer.

[Tilmanstoa5ty]

Check your frame, it's possible you have a flat thru axle non-drive side hole. Mine and a few of us early adopters have the older TA hole which requires the conical washer/spacer.

Mine also uses conical spacers but with the spacers in place there doesn’t seem to be any play. I can measure the thread length of my thru axle to compare it with yours.