New VeloBuild gravel race frame in the works...

[ZacItaly15]

Very nice!
I'm curious, would you be able to make a pie chart with who is buying gravel frames from you, vs who is buying road frames?
I feel that in continental Europe, gravel is not too popular, and i suspect it's very popular in the US.
So, pie chart 1 could be gravel frame sales per shipping destination: US X%, Germany Y%...
and pie chart 2 could be road frame sales per shipping destination.

I'm in Europe, and nobody around me has even said the word gravel in months. I have 2 gravel bikes in a friend's attic i havent touched in 1y. And the other gravel frames i built for friends are being used with road tyres only...
That'd be very cool to see.

Good question.
In Italy the gravel mania have just dropped the top and the gravel market is in a downward spiral.
Every weekend in my area (larger Venice area) you can find a gravel event (race or ride) with high fees, aero carbon wheelset, overpriced craft beer, mustaches + lumberjack shirt.

I own a road bike I use only for training and a gravel bike I use for commuting and "adventure", not speed...just fun and explore. In fact I never use my trail cannondale Habit...

[rwtbne]

In-frame storage part of those plans?

Sounds like a danger for rattle noise!!

[Cape_Kirk]

Hey folks,

I want to pull the trigger on the velobuild aero grav frame, but I'm not sure about the size. I've got a Scott rc foil (2024) in size 54 with a 100mm stem and no spacers. It fits very good. I'm 1,79m with 87cm inseam.
The aero grav in S/52 has a similar stack and reach. In size M/54 stack (+23mm) and reach (+17mm) are longer/higher. So I would run the size M with a 80 or 70mm stem and would have a higher stack - therefore more control? What are your thoughts?
Thanks for your input

[Blueberry]

Hey folks,

I want to pull the trigger on the velobuild aero grav frame, but I'm not sure about the size. I've got a Scott rc foil (2024) in size 54 with a 100mm stem and no spacers. It fits very good. I'm 1,79m with 87cm inseam.
The aero grav in S/52 has a similar stack and reach. In size M/54 stack (+23mm) and reach (+17mm) are longer/higher. So I would run the size M with a 80 or 70mm stem and would have a higher stack - therefore more control? What are your thoughts?
Thanks for your input

I would look up the geometry for both frames and put it into bikegeocalc.com. Make a model of each bike and you can see which components you need to get the geometry to match. The website is extremely basic but very helpful for checking how new frames will fit against your old frame.

[Blueberry]

From mapping up the small and the medium on BikeGeoCalc I did notice the frame's stand-over is quite high, for the small it was around 775mm and the medium was 795. Those heights were assuming we're maxing out the tire clearance but definitely something to look out for when deciding on size! My inseam is 800mm and I was considering the small and medium. Noticing the stand-over made me realize I should go for the small.

Update from looking at it more closely: It looks like their XS size is more in line with ~52cm gravel frames from other brands. Extra height from bigger tires might not have been considered when they came up with the geo. Shorter seattube/more sloped toptube would be ideal. Seattube length on the size S is the same as the 56cm MOG or 54cm Breed; it's similar to a size S Grizl but Canyon also offers 3 sizes smaller than their S.

Anyone with an inseam of less than 76cm/30" is going to struggle with fitting on even the XS frame and possibly have a lot of toe overlap with the front tire too. VB might wanted to consider making some smaller sizes and a second fork that has a bit more rake