Chaoyang road tyres

[raisinberry777]

Perhaps an interesting option has become available, the Chaoyang Storm R1. Available in tubed and tubeless versions, though I haven't seen the tubeless version in AliExpress yet.

https://a.aliexpress.com/_mKf64dl

Tubeless version is being raced by the St George Continental Cycling Team in Australia.

[kwantani]

Been using the Chaoyang Cobra 700x25 and x28 for few years. Performance is close the name brand tires. Happy with how they roll.

Is also being called the "poor men GP5000".

[raisinberry777]

Been using the Chaoyang Cobra 700x25 and x28 for few years. Performance is close the name brand tires. Happy with how they roll.

Is also being called the "poor men GP5000".

I assume that's the H-496 (that now seemed to be named the 'Merlin')?

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005008015685676.html

[kwantani]

Yeah mine is H486 Cobra. I think the H496 has slight improvement.
Definitely interested to get hold of the Arisun Storm to try out. THe downside is limited size of 25/28. Wish they've 30/32.

[BeR]

I bought the H496 but I could not try them yet. I will make a review after trying them.

[kwantani]

Chinese article about the Chaoyang Storm R1:
https://www.lianglunshijie.com/htmlry/cmhd/139217.html

1) Author praised about how easy is to install the tubeless version of the R1 to the author DuraAce C38 wheelset, just use the regular floor pump can inflate and seal the tires.

2) Even mentioned sealant is optional for the R1 since it sealed so well.

3) ARISUN R1 28c installed on a 21mm inner width rim, the actual width is 30.7mm. Use 60-65psi tire pressure to effectively improve comfort

4) It can be said that its grip is close to that of Vittoria Corsa Pro or Pirelli P Zero Race

5) Weight: 299g claimed, 310g actual

6) Author concluded: ARISUN Wind R1 is worth recommending, lowering the threshold/barrier to enter the world of tubeless tires

[Serge_K]

if China started making good tyres, we need to get bicyclerollingresistance website to test that "poor men GP5000".
I have my doubts.
As to sponsoring teams, a friend of mine who's an ex world champion is still using an old stock of Hutchinson tyres because he was sponsored, and they are absolutely atrocious.

[raisinberry777]

For sure I agree on the sponsorship, it's just interesting to see it being used by St George which is basically the full China team:
- Pardus frames
- Scom wheels
- Magene groupsets
- XCadey power meter
- Chaoyang tyres
- DYC chains
- Santic kit
- Zuata shoes

[kwantani]

Q for the tire experts...

The Storm R1 advertised as 330 TPI for the casing, does it mean

a) 330 threads per inch for one single ply of casing?

or

b) 100 threads per inch per ply, 3 ply casing?

[kwantani]

one more Chinese review on the Storm R1:
https://www.coiegypt.com/product/53485.html?all=1

[FullCarbonAlchemist]

Chaoyang is definitely underrated, and in no small part because they don’t sell under an Anglicized brand name.

I’ve been happily running their Snow Storm fat bike tires for years, and sometimes the Big Daddy in summer despite the name being a bit cringe. The casings are a bit bouncier and less supple than Surly or 45 North, and they don’t always hold air reliably below 2psi (only an issue for snow so soft and deep that it’s already terrible to ride)…but they’re way better than Vee Snowshoes or most other cheap fat tires.

[Chiyou]

a) 330 threads per inch for one single ply of casing?

or

b) 100 threads per inch per ply, 3 ply casing?

Not an expert whatsoever but I'm guessing b) because
- that's the marketing number Continental uses as well for their GP5000 (three plies at 110 TPI each)
- the last review you posted mentions a TT model with 330 TPI and a TLR one with 220 TPI, which presumably means the TT model is triple-ply while the TLR one is dual-ply (which again would be similar to how Continental approach their models)

[Scott902]

Would love to see a 30mm option at some point.

[Sander2177]

They are not super cheap can pick up Michelin Cups and GP5000s for that sort of money.
Buy I’m sure there will be more emerging competitor brands.
Anyone know Trace Velo

[Scott902]

They are not super cheap can pick up Michelin Cups and GP5000s for that sort of money.
Buy I’m sure there will be more emerging competitor brands.
Anyone know Trace Velo

you've got a good source, they're at least half the price of GP5000s for me