Should I get the 057 or 256??

[carbonazza]

Hi All, my first post here.

Did you check http://honsenbikes.com/product_list.asp?id=371
It ressemble furiously to the IP-256, but Honsen Bikes seems to build them.

Someone called Leo answered all my questions.
Quickly in general. Altough sometimes with a delay of a day or so.

I ordered it last week, and now waiting.
Leo said 4 weeks lead time.

The wheels are coming from light-bicycle.com, due in a week or so.
The drive train, brakes, etc. from bike24.com
And a lefty + steerer from project321.com

I will keep you posted on arrival.

[Sitar_Ned]

Lefty and carbon wheels on a 256 frame will be a nice light bike. Look forward to seeing it.

And yes, that is the same frame. I also added honsen bikes to the vendor list. If you get a chance, please leave a review of your experience with honsen bikes.. we currently only have a review for Iplay, would be great if you could add your buying experiences from another vendor. Thanks.

[Jake]

Did you check http://honsenbikes.com/product_list.asp?id=371
It ressemble furiously to the IP-256, but Honsen Bikes seems to build them.
I ordered it last week, and now waiting.
Leo said 4 weeks lead time.
I will keep you posted on arrival.

Perhaps we get some competition and lower prices of the 256 .
I emailed them for a quote.

The frame seems identical to Iplays one, the only difference I could find is the use of T1000 carbon instead of T800

And 950 gr is a bit more realistic, I asked them what a 19"would weigh.

[Jake]

There are a few things that hold me back from getting a 256:

- more expensive then the proven IP057
- no reports on 256's tire clearance yet
- a 19" will probably be close to 1100 gr so not that much lighter then a IP057 of the same size
- I don't like the cover under the Bottom Bracket. The IP057 does fine without.It seems to be an ad hoc solution to a problem they ran into.
- I want to run 1X10 and don't like the Direct Mount for the FD
- Pay now and wait two months! for delivery.

[MTB2223]

There are a few things that hold me back from getting a 256:

- more expensive then the proven IP057
- no reports on 256's tire clearance yet
- a 19" will probably be close to 1100 gr so not that much lighter then a IP057 of the same size
- I don't like the cover under the Bottom Bracket. The IP057 does fine without.It seems to be an ad hoc solution to a problem they ran into.
- I want to run 1X10 and don't like the Direct Mount for the FD
- Pay now and wait two months! for delivery.

I ordered the ip256. 19" weights 1040gr. I don't like the cover under the bb also, but the quality is good.
Honesbike have the same price as iplay. I asked them already. But higher shipping costs, resp. 120 usd and 93 usd.

[Sitar_Ned]

There are a few things that hold me back from getting a 256:

- more expensive then the proven IP057
- no reports on 256's tire clearance yet
- a 19" will probably be close to 1100 gr so not that much lighter then a IP057 of the same size
- I don't like the cover under the Bottom Bracket. The IP057 does fine without.It seems to be an ad hoc solution to a problem they ran into.
- I want to run 1X10 and don't like the Direct Mount for the FD
- Pay now and wait two months! for delivery.

Pretty much my exact thought process when I purchased my 057.

The fact that the 256 looks better to me and is a bit lighter just wasn't enough to sway me. That said, Ididn't already have a bike, so waiting 2 months was out of the question for me.. a lighter frame would be sweet though.

That cover under the bottom bracket, and the way the seatstays connect to the seattube in that wishbone intersection - I am not a fan of.

[MTB2223]

That cover under the bottom bracket, and the way the seatstays connect to the seattube in that wishbone intersection - I am not a fan of.

Today I asked Peter (iPlay / XMIPlay ) how reliable this construction is. And he insured me it's really reliable. And we all know iPlay stand for their quality and if there're problems, he will solve it.

So, I think we don't have to worry ...

[carbonazza]

There are a few things that hold me back from getting a 256:

- more expensive then the proven IP057
- no reports on 256's tire clearance yet
- a 19" will probably be close to 1100 gr so not that much lighter then a IP057 of the same size
- I don't like the cover under the Bottom Bracket. The IP057 does fine without.It seems to be an ad hoc solution to a problem they ran into.
- I want to run 1X10 and don't like the Direct Mount for the FD
- Pay now and wait two months! for delivery.

If that helps, in a drawing from Honsen, there is a tire of 58.4mm width.
It looks to be the maximum.

Although I shared your concerns on the FD mount and the bottom cover.
I ordered it from Honsen, as they look to be the ones who build/design it.
And their lead time was shorter(...hopefully).

[PeterQ]

There are a few things that hold me back from getting a 256:

- more expensive then the proven IP057
- no reports on 256's tire clearance yet
- a 19" will probably be close to 1100 gr so not that much lighter then a IP057 of the same size
- I don't like the cover under the Bottom Bracket. The IP057 does fine without.It seems to be an ad hoc solution to a problem they ran into.
- I want to run 1X10 and don't like the Direct Mount for the FD
- Pay now and wait two months! for delivery.

If that helps, in a drawing from Honsen, there is a tire of 58.4mm width.
It looks to be the maximum.

Although I shared your concerns on the FD mount and the bottom cover.
I ordered it from Honsen, as they look to be the ones who build/design it.
And their lead time was shorter(...hopefully).

We will have the frames available in 7 days from now on. And the frame was not designed by Honsen, it was designed by our factory. Iplay showed IP-256 SL in the first place last year when the frame hasn't been available, because I think this super light model frame should be the most popular one in future.

And the guys ordered from Iplay months ago, and there was some problem with the production arrangement, so the lead time was long. If you ordered the frame from us on June 1st, I will ship the package to you in 2 weeks, because the availablity is getting normal now.

Anyway I hope you can get the frame ASAP and love it.

[Sitar_Ned]

That cover under the bottom bracket, and the way the seatstays connect to the seattube in that wishbone intersection - I am not a fan of.

Today I asked Peter (iPlay / XMIPlay ) how reliable this construction is. And he insured me it's really reliable. And we all know iPlay stand for their quality and if there're problems, he will solve it.

So, I think we don't have to worry ...

I'm quite certain that you will never even remember that the cover is there.

Just saying.. I'd rather it not be there.

Also saying.. My bike is better than yours!! 

[Ray Zorbak]

Honsen's version is made of T1000 carbon fiber. Is this preferable to T800 or would it even be noticeable?

[carbonazza]

There are a few things that hold me back from getting a 256:

- more expensive then the proven IP057
- no reports on 256's tire clearance yet
- a 19" will probably be close to 1100 gr so not that much lighter then a IP057 of the same size
- I don't like the cover under the Bottom Bracket. The IP057 does fine without.It seems to be an ad hoc solution to a problem they ran into.
- I want to run 1X10 and don't like the Direct Mount for the FD
- Pay now and wait two months! for delivery.

If that helps, in a drawing from Honsen, there is a tire of 58.4mm width.
It looks to be the maximum.

Although I shared your concerns on the FD mount and the bottom cover.
I ordered it from Honsen, as they look to be the ones who build/design it.
And their lead time was shorter(...hopefully).

We will have the frames available in 7 days from now on. And the frame was not designed by Honsen, it was designed by our factory. Iplay showed IP-256 SL in the first place last year when the frame hasn't been available, because I think this super light model frame should be the most popular one in future.

And the guys ordered from Iplay months ago, and there was some problem with the production arrangement, so the lead time was long. If you ordered the frame from us on June 1st, I will ship the package to you in 2 weeks, because the availablity is getting normal now.

Anyway I hope you can get the frame ASAP and love it.

Sorry for the mistake, Peter, thanks for the clarification.
This is good for you the lead time is shorter now.
Copyright seems managed very differently in China than in US/Europe.
You design. Other build. And everything looks fine.

[Sitar_Ned]

Yeah it'd be cool to understand the copyright laws in China.. I mean are their literally NO restrictions and copyright laws, or what?

[flanglian]

I'm contemplating a 256 but running it with Iplay's thru axle rigid fork. I weight 175 lbs and will be riding flat, rooty singletrack and fire roads. Does anybody have any thoughts on which of the 057 or 256 is best suited to this type of riding? Look forward to hearing from you!   

[MTB2223]

I'm contemplating a 256 but running it with Iplay's thru axle rigid fork. I weight 175 lbs and will be riding flat, rooty singletrack and fire roads. Does anybody have any thoughts on which of the 057 or 256 is best suited to this type of riding? Look forward to hearing from you!   

The reason why I ordered an IP-256 is because the weight (19"= 1040 gr) and the direct mount for the front derailleur. I'm going ride this bike with 2x10.
When I had choose for 1x10 or 1x11, I had choosen the IP-057, 200-250 gr heavier, but a lot cheaper.