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Re: TanTan - Seraph FM121 XC 120mm Full Suspension 2024 model Here is something interesting as well:
October 20, 2023, 02:27:42 PM
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Re: Epic Evo Clone The adventure has begun.

I contacted Airwolf asking which mounting kit I should order for the shock I'll use (Rockshox Select+), and they assured me all the proper parts were included. But it turns out they aren't fitting so I went to a shop to find an appropriate kit.

While I was there they pointed out a few quality control issues with my frame that have me a bit concerned, and I wonder what others might think.

- The rear dropout holes aren't perfectly round, looks like someone went to town with a router a little too outside the line.

- The headtube where the headset cups go in is a bit off, not as exactly even as it probably should be. Looks like a sketchy layup.

- The bottom bracket threads are rough and should probably be finished again before inserting the bottom bracket.

I will follow up with photos later if there's any interest, but for now, I wonder how much further I should go with this build. My mechanic who spotted all this is solid and not just trying to steer me to another frame. I'm not completely against keeping it and moving ahead if I can get over these issues on my own, but it's discouraging after waiting so long and finally having the frame in my hands. Otherwise, the frame seems perfectly legit and if these issues weren't present I'd feel confident bombing down all my normal hills on it (I'm old and skinny, don't go hard, I'll never break a typical XC frame).

I'm pretty suspect at this point.

December 08, 2023, 12:00:15 PM
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Re: Epic Evo Clone A second opinion from another bike shop mechanic has me less worried about the frame's quality. I'm keeping it and forging ahead.

I have the cables internally routed now which was a bitch. It required taking the linkage bolt out at the bottom for more clearance. I added a drop of Loctite to the bolt when I put it back on but there are no torque-setting indicators so I just went really tight by hand. If anyone knows the right torque for this bolt then please advise. How would someone work that out, or does it matter too much as long as it's reasonably tight?

Airwolf advised me that the shock mounting hardware they'd send would work for my shock, but it doesn't -- you need a 8x20 and 8x14 kits from Rockshox. I anticipated this, which is why I asked so I could get ahead of it, but to no avail. Had I known this, or at least the correct dimensions, I could have saved myself some waiting around by pre-ordering the parts. On that note here's something that may save someone else some time -- if you're using a Rockshox Select+ 190x4*, which is a typical shock to pair with this frame, then you'll need these two Rockshox mounting hardware kits:

8x14 part# 11.4118.091.800
8x20 part# 11.4118.091.806

Where I live most shops don't stock any mounting kits so everyone has to order, and since they all use the same distributor it's mostly a waiting game if one is on backorder, as is the 8x14 kit now. Luckily I found one on eBay, fingers crossed it'll be here next week.

December 11, 2023, 09:42:23 AM
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Re: Epic Evo Clone Here is the finished build, photo from my first ride.

December 26, 2023, 01:46:33 PM
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Re: TanTan - Seraph FM121 XC 120mm Full Suspension 2024 model I've ridden a Tantan/Seraph FM078 for almost three years with good luck so far. I'm lightweight and don't ride too rowdy, but I ride a lot and the FM078 has held up just fine.

Hi guys , any idea of quality of the tan tan mtb bikes. Are they on par or better than the other manufacturers . ( hongfu / lightcarbon /carbondo ) type brands. I saw the bigger bikes come with 2 bottle mounts. My favourite so far for xcm is fm138hongfu and fm121 tantan. Would like your opinions please.

April 02, 2024, 08:14:12 AM
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