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Re: My Dengfu R12 - First Impressions and Video
Looking forward for the 177 review. I'm building the 177 as I type this LoL. So far there are tangible differences between my Dengfu R12 and VeloBuild 177: 1. The EPS latex molding that VeloBuild uses on the 177 makes a HUGE difference when routing cables though the frame. No rough edges for the cables to catch on. 2. Velobuild seems to have put more "thought and care" into frame accessibility for cable management. 3. Paint quality is good although no real world tests yet obviously. Granted I did paint my Dengfu at home, but the VeloBuild paint is obviously better. 4. Overall VeloBuild paid more attention to smaller details. Dealing with them felt more like they were actually bike enthusiasts rather than just a company wanting to sell me a generic frame. My first impressions video on the 177 will be later this week. I'll keep everyone posted December 20, 2021, 10:02:47 AM |
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Re: My Dengfu R12 - First Impressions and Video
I'm building the 177 as I type this LoL. So far there are tangible differences between my Dengfu R12 and VeloBuild 177: Thank you for committing your time and money into showcasing these internet darling independent bike brands. I think we're headed to a new golden age in cycling where there is more transparency in bike technology and less dependence on bike retailers. December 20, 2021, 12:09:25 PM |
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Re: Velobuild VB-R-177
Beautiful! My first impressions video on the 177 will be uploaded to YouTube later this week. I ordered a size M. Weight including both derailleur hangers, plastic grommets, and seatpost clamp is 1044 grams. When you remove the hardware and paint then yup the weight is sub 1000 grams. Makes sense for T1000 carbon fiber. December 20, 2021, 09:33:04 PM |
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Re: Velobuild VB-R-177
Alrighty...so my 177 is basically finished. Just have to wrap the bars. Some quick tidbits for anyone considering the separate stem/bar combo: 1. The stem I ordered is a 120mm, but it actually measures closer to 125mm if you measure it like a traditional stem. VeloBuild measures the stem from the center of the compression bolt to the actual center point (half-way point) of the top section of the bars...rather than where the faceplate intersects. Dengfu does the same thing too and I suspect other Chinese brands do the same. 2. Speaking of handlebars...there are no handlebar specs on the website, but I measured the reach of the handlebars to be around 90mm. Handlebar drop is about 125mm Just wanted others to be aware for comparing bike fits. Pics coming later today. its 20 degrees F here in chicago 
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Re: Velobuild VB-R-177
Final weight without bottle cages, computer mount, or pedals: 7.6kg Difficult to tell in the photos but the paint is chameleon blue and purple. Blurple. Size M 120mm Stem 400mm Handlebars December 22, 2021, 01:37:52 PM |
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Re: Velobuild VB-R-177
First Impressions video is live. VeloBuild also sent me an EPS latex molding of the frame, as well as a broken down cut up carbon frame to inspect the insides of the frame. I discuss this in the video. Pretty cool! December 23, 2021, 09:16:30 AM |
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Re: Velobuild VB-R-177
First Impressions video is live. VeloBuild also sent me an EPS latex molding of the frame, as well as a broken down cut up carbon frame to inspect the insides of the frame. I discuss this in the video. Pretty cool! Great video! I did my first ride with the 177 and I really liked the feeling of the ride compared to the VB-099. The 177 feels more nimble/agile and compliant over uneven roads, considering most of my rides are over bad tarmac I really liked the change. As for the fork issue with the rivet not being parallel, Velobuild was nice enough to send me a new one, once I get the new fork I will update the ride experience. My bike weighs 8.1KG with 105 Groupset and Elite DT240 Wheels (38MM) December 23, 2021, 10:14:15 AM |
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Re: Velobuild VB-R-177
Sadly Winter has finally hit Chicago. Only have been able to to put about 125mi/200km on the bike. First Impressions: Coming from an Allez Sprint as my primary bike (which personally isn't as harsh as people say) I was surprised how comfortable and compliant the ride quality is. Chicago has notoriously bad roads so it's something you're always aware of. You can hear the bad pavement with the 177, you just don't really "feel" them. For comparison sake, I am running the Hyper 65s and GP5000s on both my Allez Sprint and 177 (for now). The separate handlebar/stem combo is plenty stiff enough. I'm not a sprinter so my max watt is like 1000w, maybe 1100w on my best day. No flexing as far I can tell. One thing to note with the separate handlebar/stem, is that getting the compression plug and expander bolt to properly take up all the slack/play in the fork has been tricky. Perhaps I just need to cut the steerer a little shorter to allow the dust cap to further compress without crushing it. Lastly, I did order some 38mm deep wheels from VeloBuild. They should be here hopefully today or tomorrow. Curious to see how much they weigh. December 29, 2021, 10:07:11 AM |
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Re: Velobuild VB-R-177
You can try open three browsers side by side with the geometry chart of both bike frames and your current bike geometry chart to compare all three. Also put into consideration any setbacks of the seat post when calculating the reach / top tube length. Its´s easier to compare at geometrygeeks.bike December 30, 2021, 08:43:44 AM |
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Re: Velobuild VB-R-177
Thanks for the feedback. Looking at the stack in the 177 geometry chart I reckon most tall people will have to order extra spacers if they are building this as an endurance / comfort kinda build. Roughly measuring from the floor to handlebars I foresee needing extra spacers to replicate my current stack on the 099/TT-X21 frame. The front end is very low/agressive. On my VB99 frame I had one 2MM spacer, with the 177 I'm riding a 5MM and 2MM. December 30, 2021, 02:38:15 PM |
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