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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velo Build R-099 Build
« on: February 14, 2022, 08:20:47 PM »
Quote from: RDY on February 14, 2022, 10:21:42 AM
I've been told that the cost to open a mould for a zero setback seatpost for the 099 is $500 (assume the same for 168).  They don't want to front it. 

Any interest from owners or potential buyers? I'd put $50 down.  Only 9 others needed to cover cost of mould.

I am very much interested in this. I will put down USD100 for a zero setback mold + seat post for the 099.
To me the 099 is way better than the 168 (my impression is based off owning a 099 and reading some not so good issues with the 168 setup in this forum). Also because the 099 is physically unique and different from the wanna be SL7 looks of the 168 (no offence intended to the 168 bros   :-X).

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velo Build R-099 Build
« on: February 02, 2022, 01:13:28 AM »
Quote from: Ogi22 on February 01, 2022, 02:05:51 PM
That is my new fake S-works   :D

First problems:
1. The seat dries automatically...
2. The handlebars are too soft for my 95kg... a lot of movement when I drive uphill
3. When I breaking only on front break I see that front forks bends back... idk maybe it is normal for carbon frame?

https://ibb.co/vvpwDhS

https://ibb.co/xYZGstq

If your handlebar is the Velobuild HB011 then yes it flexes a lot! Especially on both drops. I have similar experience. Velobuild agree to a change of handlebar but I have to pay for shipping both ways. I haven't gotten the time to send it back. I may just order the new separate stem and handlebar option from them and hope they can offer some kind of discount.

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Questions about disc brakes
« on: February 01, 2022, 06:14:17 AM »
These videos by Trace Velo will help with your research.




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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild VB-R-177
« on: January 17, 2022, 05:24:24 AM »
Quote from: slosada on January 16, 2022, 10:56:13 PM
Thank you guys for your input.

I'm doing the geometry check and I find the L very close to the "54" bike I had previously.

All lower measurements are almost identical:
Same chainstay (410), 2mm shorter Front-Centre (596 vs 598 in VBR177), BB drop is 69.5 vs 70,  same fork offset (45mm)

Angles are very similar: Head tube (73 both), Seat tube (73.5 vs 73.3)

Reach in my "54" bike is 391mm vs 395mm

The main difference is the head tube (170mm vs 155mm in VBR177) which yields to a higher stack in my old bike (570 vs 556) and explains the 4mm reach difference.
Am I wrong saying that the difference here comes down to one spacer?
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Regarding the other bike (I don't have the geometry), I took manual measurements, giving longer seat tube, but slacker angle (~72)... Plus a shorter Head tube (160) gives a longer reach (I remeasured today at 405mm), The stack is actually 560mm.
I have ridden this 56 bike for 4 years.  I have played with the saddle position, it feels more aggressive, and have had 7hour rides on it.  But yeah, upon changing one to the other I feel the difference on the reach

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The VB-R-177 M has significantly lower stack (536 vs 556), Reach is not compromised (392), so it has a smaller head tube (135mm) and the wheelbase is reduced.  The seat tube is also 20mm shorter.
Here I'm afraid I need more flexibility.

I'm going with the L

L sounds like the right choice for you if you previously ride a size 56. You can probably request for a zero setback seatpost if you are concerned about the reach. Additional 20mm or 30mm spacers may be helpful too since the 177 has a relatively lower stack in all sizes. If the handlebar stem you choose is at a negative angle (e.g. the HB011) it will cancel out the spacers and lower the stack, so watch out for that too.


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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild VB-R-099 Build Questions
« on: January 12, 2022, 09:31:46 AM »
Quote from: J-S-Q on January 12, 2022, 04:21:54 AM
Well I added some sealant and they're definitely holding pressure now so I guess it will be ok.

Now onto another question...

Anyone else who has built an 099 (or something similar), how have you handled the front derailleur cable? The frame has a fitting on the down tube to house the cable outer, leaving just the shifter cable to exit the frame. I'm a bit worried to use this because if the outer ever comes loose from the fitting I would have to remove the bottom bracket to fix the problem.

The alternative is to get rid of the fitting and just run the cable outer all the way to the derailleur. I'm just a bit concerned that there isn't that much clearance and it could rub against the tire (I have 32C's fitted).

Here are some photos so you can see the setup...

Hi, attached here is a picture of how I did mine.
"pic.jpg" is my current setup. I got the port thing from an old frame but it doesn't flush nicely with this particular hole of the frame.
"pic2.jpg is an example of what I will buy in the future from Aliexpress to replace it. 

I run a 28c tire and it doesn't rub against the cable housing.

All the best with your build :)

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild VB-R-177
« on: December 29, 2021, 10:37:10 PM »
Quote from: sm on December 29, 2021, 03:28:41 AM
Thanks for sharing your projects!

Can I compare the frame sizes to a Scott Addict?
i.e. would size M fit for a body height ~ 175 cm and size L for ~ 185 cm?

Do you know why there are two velobuild websites?
velobuild.com and velobuildmall.com
Is one of them a fake/scam website - where should i order?

You can try open three browsers side by side with the geometry chart of both bike frames and your current bike geometry chart to compare all three. Also put into consideration any setbacks of the seat post when calculating the reach / top tube length.

Velobuild actually owns both websites and I noticed if you create a user account in one of the sites it actually works on both sites automatically and you can track your order on both sites.
However you can email Chris "chris@velobuild.com" to double confirm.


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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild VB-R-177
« on: December 29, 2021, 10:23:23 PM »
Quote from: patliean1 on December 29, 2021, 10:07:11 AM
Sadly Winter has finally hit Chicago. Only have been able to to put about 125mi/200km on the bike.

First Impressions: Coming from an Allez Sprint as my primary bike (which personally isn't as harsh as people say) I was surprised how comfortable and compliant the ride quality is. Chicago has notoriously bad roads so it's something you're always aware of. You can hear the bad pavement with the 177, you just don't really "feel" them. For comparison sake, I am running the Hyper 65s and GP5000s on both my Allez Sprint and 177 (for now).

The separate handlebar/stem combo is plenty stiff enough. I'm not a sprinter so my max watt is like 1000w, maybe 1100w on my best day. No flexing as far I can tell. One thing to note with the separate handlebar/stem, is that getting the compression plug and expander bolt to properly take up all the slack/play in the fork has been tricky. Perhaps I just need to cut the steerer a little shorter to allow the dust cap to further compress without crushing it.

Lastly, I did order some 38mm deep wheels from VeloBuild. They should be here hopefully today or tomorrow. Curious to see how much they weigh.

Thanks for the feedback. Looking at the stack in the 177 geometry chart I reckon most tall people will have to order extra spacers if they are building this as an endurance / comfort kinda build. Roughly measuring from the floor to handlebars I foresee needing extra spacers to replicate my current stack on the 099/TT-X21 frame.

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild VB-R-177
« on: December 29, 2021, 07:10:25 AM »
Quote from: patliean1 on December 22, 2021, 01:37:52 PM
Final weight without bottle cages, computer mount, or pedals: 7.6kg
Difficult to tell in the photos but the paint is chameleon blue and purple. Blurple.

Size M
120mm Stem
400mm Handlebars


How is the 177 ride experience so far?
How is the stiffness of the separate stem and handlebar setup?
I have notice the Velobuild HB011 integrated handlebar flexes too much especially on the drops. I wonder if anybody observed this same issue with that handlebar?

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild VB-R-177
« on: December 20, 2021, 04:46:38 PM »
Quote from: patliean1 on December 20, 2021, 09:45:22 AM
Currently building up this week. Chameleon purple and blue.

Beautiful!
What is the size of your frame?
Did you get to weigh the frame, fork and seat post separately?
Thanks!

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: TanTan TT-X21 frame
« on: December 15, 2021, 10:55:29 PM »
Hi all. Just want to add as a note for anyone looking to get the TT-X21 / vb-r-099 frame set. Make sure to put the seat post setback into account when measuring the top tube / reach / Handlebar length.
This also goes for any frame with a seat post that is proprietary to the frameset.
Ya, my 099 / TT-X21 seat post setback is so backward that my knees does not track with the center of my pedals at 3 O'clock pedal position. Not to mention the fact that the seat post setback makes me stretch too far forward to reach my handlebars. This was an expensive oversight when measuring the top tube and reach based on my previous road bike frame which had a zero setback seat post. Not to mention that these frames have no resale value because they are none branded. You just have to get a new frameset.
TanTan and Velobuild do not have zero setback seat post for this frame or any of their frames with a proprietary seat post.
So I am looking at getting the BXT-ROAD-115 or VB-R-177 because you can run a standard 27.2 seat post with a zero setback if you want.

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velo Build R-099 Build
« on: December 15, 2021, 10:41:10 PM »
Ya, my 099 / TT-X21 seat post setback is so backward that my knees does not track with the center of my pedals at 3 O'clock pedal position. Not to mention the fact that the seat post setback makes me stretch too far forward to reach my handlebars. This was an expensive oversight when measuring the top tube and reach based on my previous road bike frame which had a zero setback seat post. Not to mention that these frames have no resale value because they are none branded. You just have to get a new frameset.
TanTan and Velobuild do not have zero setback seat post for this frame or any of their frames with a proprietary seat post.
So I am looking at getting the BXT-ROAD-115 or VB-R-177 because you can run a standard 27.2 seat post with a zero setback if you want.

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velo Build R-099 Build
« on: December 14, 2021, 02:02:49 AM »
Hi all. Just want to add as a note for anyone looking to get the vb-r-099 frame set. Make sure to put the seatpost setback into account when measuring the top tube / reach.
This also goes for any frame with a seat post that is proprietary to the frameset.

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: My Dengfu R12 - First Impressions and Video
« on: December 13, 2021, 10:30:38 AM »
Cool!
Thanks for sharing.
You have an awesome collection. I'm looking into the vb-r-177. Looking to know how yours goes.
Awesome video btw.

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / BXT Road 115 (BXT-ROAD-115)
« on: December 09, 2021, 08:17:21 PM »
I am considering to get the BXT road 115 frameset from BXT official store on AliExpress.
I am wondering if anyone has any experience with this frame or BXT product quality, sales and after sales service.

I was going for the velobuild press fit BB vb-r-177 but found the bxt-road-115 to be also very interesting and slightly cheaper (on sale now).
I prefer press fit BB but this comes with BSA BB. Which BB spec is better?

Any comments before I pull the trigger?

Thanks!

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild VB-R-177
« on: December 04, 2021, 08:02:26 AM »
Quote from: ivorhooper on August 09, 2021, 04:34:42 PM
Been out for a ride - the bike is great!
Very fast and comfy. The brakes are excellent, but bear in mind I've never used any sort of disc brakes before.
I'm sure hydraulic brakes would be better but I'm impressed with the juin tech.
First time I've used deep wheels too so I definitely noticed the wind a couple of times.

Looks really great! Congratulations!
How is it holding up so far?
I am considering to get this frame.
How is the seatpost? Does it slide down out of position when riding?
Also how is the stiffness of the button bracket area?
Thanks for any response you can give.

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