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Chinese Carbon MTB => 29er => Topic started by: StefanB on July 12, 2021, 10:39:47 AM

Title: LCFS 917 - 120/120 mm - MTB
Post by: StefanB on July 12, 2021, 10:39:47 AM
I have just received my new LCFS917 frame and slowly going to built the bike. I'm calling it a "Down Country" MTB since with its 120 mm travel, rear and front, and the way i´m building it its  not  built to be a XC racer.

As always the frames from Light Carbon looks great. Well put together and great finish. This is the 5th bike I'm building, i have built two LFCS 911, one LCFS958 and one LCFS 947. It so fun to build bikes:-)

What I have to decide before starting is if I should paint the frame or not. The previous bikes I have not painted, just put my own stickers on. But I can imagine hos nice it would look in "RAL 6018 Yellow Green".

I will keep you posted as the project goes on.
Title: Re: LCFS 917 - "Down Country" MTB
Post by: darius72 on July 12, 2021, 04:57:13 PM
Good to hear that lightcarbon has good quality; two questions:
in the last purchase did you notice price increase due to covid, raw material crisis?
And as you built XC, trail and enduro bikes: geometry is ok? Can you feel the difference? The enduro one is still good for pedaling uphill?
Thanks and good luck with last project!
Title: Re: LCFS 917 - "Down Country" MTB
Post by: QuentinLL on July 13, 2021, 02:34:05 AM
Nice build.
Short reach, 73° STA, 67° HTA, long chainstay and small BB drop.
It looks like a marathon xc bike rather than a pure "down country" (NS Bikes Synonym, Transition Spur and so on).
Title: Re: LCFS 917 - "Down Country" MTB
Post by: emu26 on July 13, 2021, 03:07:59 AM
I can't find it on their website, where did you get it from?
Title: Re: LCFS 917 - 120/120 mm - MTB
Post by: StefanB on July 13, 2021, 10:22:14 AM
The LCFS911 I have built for my wife and son, so I cant really evaluate them since they are too small.

The LCFS947 is a great climber when its technical and speed is not important. I think its my first choice to really go technical places. It when its time to go down again its super stable , no drama at all.

The LCFS958 is the great all-rounder. If i think that I will need to try and keep up with biking friends on trail-riding I take the LCFS958. Its faster, it climbs well, its good on the descents but compared to the LCFS947 need a little more concentration to be safe. And when its flat it can cary good speed. If i had to choose one of the, that's really, really hard. but i think it would be the LCFS947.

The LCFS917 is far away from that and i really dont know what to do with it. But it so fun to build that I caould not stop myself when Light Carbon offered me the frame. I wantet to order a LCFS911 in my size but the delivery time was so long so they offered the 917 instead.


Title: Re: LCFS 917 - 120/120 mm - MTB
Post by: darius72 on July 13, 2021, 05:28:21 PM
Stefan,
Thank you very much for clarification; it's very important to get these feedbacks. Moreover all reviews always stresses the downhill performances but they almost never describe how a bike climbs; if you aren't using lifts 80% of the time you are pedaling; my idea was to build an enduro hardtail, but then I fell in love with the new haideli am831 frame and I ordered it. Being a "new" frame the associated risks of defects are higher; still I hope it will end up in a bike where long climbing is possible. In my project the weight should be around 13 kg, so not crazy high.
the LCFS947 was one of my option, I like the geometry, maybe I found a bit weird the aesthetic of the finished bike, but this is personal taste.
Title: Re: LCFS 917 - 120/120 mm - MTB
Post by: StefanB on July 14, 2021, 12:21:53 AM
The figures are close to the Specialized Epic Evo 2019 so I hope the ride will be in that category

https://www.pinkbike.com/news/first-ride-2019-specialized-epic-evo.html
Title: Re: LCFS 917 - 120/120 mm - MTB
Post by: StefanB on July 14, 2021, 09:59:36 AM
Painting the bike :-)
Title: Re: LCFS 917 - 120/120 mm - MTB
Post by: StefanB on August 03, 2021, 12:39:09 PM
Slowly starting to put the bike together again.
Title: Re: LCFS 917 - 120/120 mm - MTB
Post by: emu26 on August 03, 2021, 04:39:33 PM
Slowly starting to put the bike together again.

Hi Stefan, I asked earlier with no reply so I'll try again, feel free to pm me the answer if it's not for public consumption.

Where did you get the frame, it is not listed on the LightCarbon website.

Thanks
Title: Re: LCFS 917 - 120/120 mm - MTB
Post by: StefanB on August 04, 2021, 12:38:10 AM
I got it from Light Carbon.

The last 1.5 years I have ordered for myself:

2* LCFS911
1* LCFS958
1* LCFS947

And for my friends:
2*LCFS947
1*LCFS713

So when I wanted to order a LCFS911 for myself in size L they said that the delivery time was long but they instead offered med the LCFS917 in size L that they had in stock. I liked the way it looked  and the geometry was interesting, so i ordered the LCFS917.
Title: Re: LCFS 917 - 120/120 mm - MTB
Post by: emu26 on August 04, 2021, 01:23:54 AM
Thanks, I wonder why they aren't listing it.

Any chance you have a geo chart you could share?
Title: Re: LCFS 917 - 120/120 mm - MTB
Post by: Chamomile on August 05, 2021, 11:30:25 AM
Easily googled.

(https://frcarbonframe.dk/____impro/1/onewebmedia/LCFS917-V.jpg)
Title: Re: LCFS 917 - 120/120 mm - MTB
Post by: emu26 on August 05, 2021, 07:42:59 PM
Thanks Chamomile but this thread is all that comes up when I google it.
Title: Re: LCFS 917 - 120/120 mm - MTB
Post by: Schumo on August 06, 2021, 12:44:15 PM
How much is that frame?
Title: Re: LCFS 917 - 120/120 mm - MTB
Post by: StefanB on August 06, 2021, 03:17:19 PM
Attached a PDF with all info I have of the frame.
Title: Re: LCFS 917 - 120/120 mm - MTB
Post by: StefanB on August 07, 2021, 04:44:31 AM
Starting to look like a bike:-)
Title: Re: LCFS 917 - 120/120 mm - MTB
Post by: RobertRinAustin on August 08, 2021, 10:48:19 AM
Haha, Stefan can post a build pic in nearly every thread. Hope you ordered an AM831 so we can see that build.
Title: Re: LCFS 917 - 120/120 mm - MTB
Post by: GreyCactus on August 08, 2021, 05:49:01 PM
Starting to look like a bike:-)
Thanks for the report. How do you compare this VS LCFS911?

I´ll buy it ASAP, with a Downcountry intentions. I have a Bos Dizzy 120mm, a 125mm reverb, XT 12V, and hope Tech Brakes to start with it. Need, Frame and wheels only  ::) ::)
Title: Re: LCFS 917 - 120/120 mm - MTB
Post by: Cerps on August 10, 2021, 01:35:20 PM
Slowly starting to put the bike together again.

What chainstay protector and downtube/bottom bracket protectors are you using?  Mine came with a less protective chainstay protector and nothing on downtube.
Title: Re: LCFS 917 - 120/120 mm - MTB
Post by: StefanB on August 15, 2021, 02:09:47 PM
(https://cdn.abicart.com/shop/images/184723945-origpic-1f6c16/1785/art85/h3945/tjeaksa10.jpg)

(https://cdn.abicart.com/shop/images/184723945-origpic-9de925/1785/art85/h3945/tjeaksa2.jpg)

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(https://cdn.abicart.com/shop/images/184723945-origpic-f876b3/1785/art85/h3945/tjeaksa5.jpg)

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Title: Re: LCFS 917 - 120/120 mm - MTB
Post by: StefanB on August 19, 2021, 02:58:44 PM
Haha, Stefan can post a build pic in nearly every thread. Hope you ordered an AM831 so we can see that build.

Well, I just could not resist it, so I ordered a AM831 :-)
Title: Re: LCFS 917 - 120/120 mm - MTB
Post by: Tornado on January 24, 2023, 04:44:51 AM
Had any more experience with this frame now that you can share with us?

I see that you have painted the frame self, can you talk me thru the process? Finish good, cans or spray?
I see that every frame is black matt when we order it, do we need to specify unpainted when we order it or is this "coat" something that every frame has/need anyway?
Title: Re: LCFS 917 - 120/120 mm - MTB
Post by: StefanB on January 25, 2023, 03:12:00 AM
Hi. The frame was black matte when delivered. This was the first and last frame i painted. It costs more in paint and wears of easier then when painted at the factory. After this experiment i have order my frames painted, is woth it.

Good luck. /Stefan
Title: Re: LCFS 917 - 120/120 mm - MTB
Post by: Cerps on February 10, 2023, 07:47:00 PM
Had any more experience with this frame now that you can share with us?

I see that you have painted the frame self, can you talk me thru the process? Finish good, cans or spray?
I see that every frame is black matt when we order it, do we need to specify unpainted when we order it or is this "coat" something that every frame has/need anyway?

I got mine built up in May of 2020.  I now have 4570 miles on it.  Where I live is pretty flat. It climbs well on the hills I have ridden.  I've taken it off some jumps and drops up to 4 feet and it's fine so far.  I have it set up with a 120mm SID ultimate (previous generation with 32mm stanchions) and a Fox Nude 165x45 off a 2017 Scott Spark with the twinloc set up. 

I'm about 5'8.5".  I have a wingspan of 6'0" so my fit is weird.  I have a 90mm, -6 stem with 740mm bars to try and get a long enough reach.  The only issue I've had so far is the lower rocker bolt sheared off the head and worked it's way out the drive side.  I didn't notice until it started pushing my chain off.  When Light Carbon sent me the backup I bought a full backup set of all hardware and a couple more extra derailleur hangers.  They are a shape I haven't been able to find anywhere else.
Title: Re: LCFS 917 - 120/120 mm - MTB
Post by: ottoangel on August 05, 2023, 10:28:11 AM
Stefan how does it work ordering the frames to Sweden? Thinking about building a gravel bike for my self. Also from Sweden.
Title: Re: LCFS 917 - 120/120 mm - MTB
Post by: StefanB on August 06, 2023, 01:27:08 AM
it works fine. Now you pay the shipment  with all handling, VAT, taken care of by Light Carbon and you get home delivery. I think I have ordered 2-3 frames this year and I am right now busy building myself a new LCFS 947.
Title: Re: LCFS 917 - 120/120 mm - MTB
Post by: Technic on August 21, 2023, 05:22:44 AM
Mounted a 917 and weight
Title: Re: LCFS 917 - 120/120 mm - MTB
Post by: ausmtb8989 on November 27, 2023, 06:56:53 AM
I am informed it is now called 919 with UDH and larger headtube 1 1/2in straight headtube.
Pondering whether to get this one or 918.  I do like two bottle cages in the 918, but this one can officially support 130mm/120mm travel which I also prefer
Anyone tried this new 919 model yet?
Title: Re: LCFS 917 - 120/120 mm - MTB
Post by: jefflinde on November 27, 2023, 10:38:22 AM
I am informed it is now called 919 with UDH and larger headtube 1 1/2in straight headtube.
Pondering whether to get this one or 918.  I do like two bottle cages in the 918, but this one can officially support 130mm/120mm travel which I also prefer
Anyone tried this new 918 model yet?
There is a good thread on the 918.  I have the UDH version and so far I love it.  I wish it did not have the cables through the head tube as that is a pain in the butt and serves no real purpose or provides no benefit.  But it is what it is.  I am tempted to just make my own holes in the frame.  Other than that it is great.  I have built up 4 frames and all of them are running great.   
Title: Re: LCFS 917 - 120/120 mm - MTB
Post by: Ludo on November 27, 2023, 10:51:37 AM
Jeff, any lesson learn on headset cable routing? I will receive my frame (spcycle) in a few weeks and I have to route through the headset as well
Title: Re: LCFS 917 - 120/120 mm - MTB
Post by: jefflinde on November 27, 2023, 10:22:29 PM
Jeff, any lesson learn on headset cable routing? I will receive my frame (spcycle) in a few weeks and I have to route through the headset as well

I prefer to go opposite side so right side controls go in left side of headset.  that worked for me but no promises there.   the other thing is i tool a round file to the inside of my headset pieces where the cables go in and made sure there was nothing sharp and all the edges were nice and rounded off and smooth.   this lets them slid a bit and keeps them from getting cut up. 
Title: Re: LCFS 917 - 120/120 mm - MTB
Post by: ausmtb8989 on November 29, 2023, 08:25:55 AM
There is a good thread on the 918.  I have the UDH version and so far I love it.  I wish it did not have the cables through the head tube as that is a pain in the butt and serves no real purpose or provides no benefit.  But it is what it is.  I am tempted to just make my own holes in the frame.  Other than that it is great.  I have built up 4 frames and all of them are running great.

Sorry I meant 919.  I've updated my original post.
Title: Re: LCFS 917 - 120/120 mm - MTB
Post by: Roli78 on December 22, 2023, 12:56:14 AM
I am informed it is now called 919 with UDH and larger headtube 1 1/2in straight headtube.
Pondering whether to get this one or 918.  I do like two bottle cages in the 918, but this one can officially support 130mm/120mm travel which I also prefer
Anyone tried this new 919 model yet?

Does anybody know if i could potentially just exchange the back part (Chainstay..?) on my 917 with the 919 to have a UDH instead? After having a SRAM Transmission on my 947, i would want it as well on my 917, but i can't since it's not UDH...
Title: Re: LCFS 917 - 120/120 mm - MTB
Post by: JimLee on January 19, 2024, 01:46:19 AM
yes, the traiangle of LCFS917 and LCFS919 is same, only LCFS919 with DUH hanger, you can use the new to instead of old LCFS917.
now LCFS919 can be booked, rear triangle with DUH hanger, in front triangle, the head tube will be staight 1 1/2", for inner cable routing,.
Title: Re: LCFS 917 - 120/120 mm - MTB
Post by: indyphil on January 19, 2024, 09:55:38 AM
the 919 still isnt shown on the website, is it for sale elsewhere? 
Title: Re: LCFS 917 - 120/120 mm - MTB
Post by: zilcho on January 19, 2024, 04:00:20 PM
the 919 still isnt shown on the website, is it for sale elsewhere?

I would bet they meant the 918, their other XC frame that has been out for a while.
Title: Re: LCFS 917 - 120/120 mm - MTB
Post by: Larxxor on January 21, 2024, 03:04:18 AM
They showcased the lcfs919 add a bike show, cant find the link. I remember it sand the 919 was basically a 917 with UDH hanger.
Title: Re: LCFS 917 - 120/120 mm - MTB
Post by: dan_cx on January 22, 2024, 03:46:28 PM
They showcased the lcfs919 add a bike show, cant find the link. I remember it sand the 919 was basically a 917 with UDH hanger.
Now that is something I'd be interested in! Aside from new AXS compatibility, I've been trying to move to bikes that all run UDHs so I can simplify what spares I need to have around for them all.
Title: Re: LCFS 917 - 120/120 mm - MTB
Post by: Larxxor on January 25, 2024, 02:03:41 AM

look for lcfs919 at bottom of this page

https://www.lightcarbon.com/lightcarbon-in-eurobike-2023_n68
Title: Re: LCFS 917 - 120/120 mm - MTB
Post by: ausmtb8989 on January 25, 2024, 01:23:50 PM
my 919 frame arrived today! looking forward to building it and sharing my journey here!
Title: Re: LCFS 917 - 120/120 mm - MTB
Post by: JimLee on January 31, 2024, 02:27:38 AM
the 919 still isnt shown on the website, is it for sale elsewhere?
LCFS919 can be booked now, some size M are shipped for previous orders
Title: Re: LCFS 917 - 120/120 mm - MTB
Post by: Cerps on February 05, 2024, 08:40:14 PM
my 919 frame arrived today! looking forward to building it and sharing my journey here!

Lucky you.  My 919 rear triangle shipped out the day you posted your pic.  I have a 917 and the rear insert on the rear brake broke so I got the 919 rear.  Just waiting for it to arrive and then when swapping the triangle I'm going to replace the bearings in the trunnion mount, near the bottom bracket, and on the seat tube. 
Title: Re: LCFS 917 - 120/120 mm - MTB
Post by: xXROGXx971 on March 03, 2024, 07:48:52 AM
my 919 frame arrived today! looking forward to building it and sharing my journey here!

Nice :D, how much did it cost including shipping? I really interested in the updated version  :).
Title: Re: LCFS 917 - 120/120 mm - MTB
Post by: ausmtb8989 on March 06, 2024, 05:47:05 PM
$689 total for me
Title: Re: LCFS 917 - 120/120 mm - MTB
Post by: mybikeisbroken on March 09, 2024, 09:03:21 PM
$689 total for me

AUD? Is that with shipping?
Title: Re: LCFS 917 - 120/120 mm - MTB
Post by: ausmtb8989 on March 14, 2024, 05:37:58 AM
There is a good thread on the 918.  I have the UDH version and so far I love it.  I wish it did not have the cables through the head tube as that is a pain in the butt and serves no real purpose or provides no benefit.  But it is what it is.  I am tempted to just make my own holes in the frame.  Other than that it is great.  I have built up 4 frames and all of them are running great.

I have to say this has been one of the major pains as well, as I am building my 919.
Title: Re: LCFS 917 - 120/120 mm - MTB
Post by: ausmtb8989 on March 14, 2024, 05:38:17 AM
AUD? Is that with shipping?

USD delivered
Title: Re: LCFS 917 - 120/120 mm - MTB
Post by: ausmtb8989 on March 21, 2024, 06:15:20 PM
Finally finished my LCFS 919 "budget" build, very pleased with the outcome.  Will be taking a maiden ride to my fav trails this weekend!