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Other Resources => Component Deals & Selection => Topic started by: ENEP on July 31, 2023, 06:46:03 AM
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Looking to upgrade one of my older road bikes with a integrated handlebar, mostly for the looks and feel. Bike is only used for light training on flats and indoors traning in the winter. Wanted spec: 380 wide, 90 stem and "modern/compact" with short reach to bends.
Been looking at below items - any recommendations/warnings on theese or others?
TOSEEK TR5500
https://a.aliexpress.com/_ExKS4vd
KOCEVLO
https://a.aliexpress.com/_EJDcnKL
"Alanera" (DEDA copy?) (also available from Ullicyc)
https://a.aliexpress.com/_Ev1cZRz
The One Pro (pricey in comparison)
https://a.aliexpress.com/_ExFQlVD
Ullicyc T-One (copy of The One Pro?
https://a.aliexpress.com/_EwVVZnV
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I think the Kocevlo and the last one are the same.
It is also the handlebar I am expecting to be included with my Hygge Model S frame that I hope to receive next week... So hopefully the quality will be OK :)
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I think the Kocevlo and the last one are the same.
It is also the handlebar I am expecting to be included with my Hygge Model S frame that I hope to receive next week... So hopefully the quality will be OK :)
I had a second look and I agree, the handlebars and accessories look identical. However the Kocevlo one does not specify if T1000 as Ullicyc.
Are they a good option? Reviews seem fine.
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Would not surprise me if they just use the word T1000 to get more sales...
I have no experience yet with it, so I can't comment. But if the reviews are good (you have to specifically search for bad ones to see if there could be a problem with it) you could take the leap. Maybe search for some youtube reviews to learn a little bit more...
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I have that kocevelo bar/stem, in 380x80mm. Have about 500km on it so far on my velobuild 099. The inner steerer surface was painted and wouldn't fit on the velobuild steerer tube. So I had to dremel/sand down the inside a tiny bit so it would fit nicely. Not sure if they're all like that or it was just a bad combination of generous tolerances from vb and kocevelo. It came with a variety of plastic spacers and headset pieces. Was a little tricky for cable routing but every one of these combo bars is. Doesn't seem flexy but I'm not putting down insane watts and only weight 130lbs.
For 100$ I'm super happy with it. Here's a couple pictures:
https://imgur.com/a/B7Iibc9
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Looking to upgrade one of my older road bikes with a integrated handlebar, mostly for the looks and feel. Bike is only used for light training on flats and indoors traning in the winter. Wanted spec: 380 wide, 90 stem and "modern/compact" with short reach to bends.
Been looking at below items - any recommendations/warnings on theese or others?
TOSEEK TR5500
https://a.aliexpress.com/_ExKS4vd
KOCEVLO
https://a.aliexpress.com/_EJDcnKL
"Alanera" (DEDA copy?) (also available from Ullicyc)
https://a.aliexpress.com/_Ev1cZRz
The One Pro (pricey in comparison)
https://a.aliexpress.com/_ExFQlVD
Ullicyc T-One (copy of The One Pro?
https://a.aliexpress.com/_EwVVZnV
The Kocevlo and Ullicyc are the same bar and they are both copies of The One Pro with a different clamp design, but the stem and bars are the same. I bought both The One Pro and Kocevlo bars and they are identical apart from the steerer clamp. The One Pro were about 25g lighter (370g vs 395g); whether that's the clamp design (likely) or a different carbon layup, I couldn't tell any difference between the two. In the end, I went with the Kocevlo due to being half the price. They've been on my bike since May (you can search my posts) and I've raced them a dozen times or so. I like them and would buy again. They're plenty stiff for me and I'm around 85kg and can put out 1600W peak in a sprint. No flex I can feel. Finish is on par for AliEx bars and I don't have any safety concerns even at my weight. I ran mech 1x and now Di2, no issues with cable routing apart from the usual annoyances of fully internal bars. Couldn't tell you if they could handle 2x mech but they look to have ample room albeit a little tight.
(https://i.imgur.com/tlsfGZNh.jpg)
For my main road bike, I have the Black Inc. copies. I paid around $80 and honestly, these are my favorite bars ever. They weigh 335g for 120/40 so not the lightest by any means. But they are a great bar. They have a little groove on the underside so I don't route internally but the cables remain mostly hidden. They aren't as flat on the tops but have an oval shape which I find super comfy riding on the tops and I wrap all the way to the stem. Stiff enough for my tastes as well. My only complain is the weight as I was looking to save grams, but even at that weight I haven't found a replacement that's better so they've been on for close to 2 years now.
(https://i.imgur.com/YmUfVAPh.jpg)
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I'm looking for one as well, with a longer reach. 130mm stem length with 75mm bars is what I'm after.
Only one I found so far was this:
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805263100199.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.5.5422El9eEl9efG&algo_pvid=f064fe71-32ab-4227-b79f-168203fa9cc4&algo_exp_id=f064fe71-32ab-4227-b79f-168203fa9cc4-2&pdp_npi=4%40dis%21USD%2190.00%2172.0%21%21%2190.00%21%21%402101e9d116932495980942300e696a%2112000033125136566%21sea%21US%21163281083%21&curPageLogUid=4HKH4FDFrSzr
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Did anyone tried those MCELO handlebars? I am looking for something with -17 degree stem to lower my stack on a Gravel bike. The seller told me that this one is -16. But you know don't know if can be trusted. On the auction of the mcelo frame on the bike pictures it does not look that steep but on drawings it says - 16. Funny that they don't inlcude those drawings with angle on handlebar auction.
https://a.aliexpress.com/_EHQRr3r
Would be cool if someone here used it and can tell something about them.
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I have the Ryet ones, both integrated with one being gravel the other road. Pretty good so far with no issues.
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Looking to upgrade one of my older road bikes with a integrated handlebar, mostly for the looks and feel. Bike is only used for light training on flats and indoors traning in the winter. Wanted spec: 380 wide, 90 stem and "modern/compact" with short reach to bends.
Been looking at below items - any recommendations/warnings on theese or others?
TOSEEK TR5500
https://a.aliexpress.com/_ExKS4vd
KOCEVLO
https://a.aliexpress.com/_EJDcnKL
"Alanera" (DEDA copy?) (also available from Ullicyc)
https://a.aliexpress.com/_Ev1cZRz
The One Pro (pricey in comparison)
https://a.aliexpress.com/_ExFQlVD
Ullicyc T-One (copy of The One Pro?
https://a.aliexpress.com/_EwVVZnV
you can check this message,
http://chinertown.com/index.php/topic,3752.msg37595.html#msg37595 (http://chinertown.com/index.php/topic,3752.msg37595.html#msg37595)
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I have a set of the Ryet/Lexon bars and I'm very happy with them. They're stiffer and the finish on them is nicer than my yoeleo bars. Cable routing was fairly easy as well.
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I have a set of the Ryet/Lexon bars and I'm very happy with them. They're stiffer and the finish on them is nicer than my yoeleo bars. Cable routing was fairly easy as well.
Which version of the Ryet bars are these? I have the og-evkin hb1300 in 38/100 and they feel super flexy, especially on the indoor trainer. Also I don't trust og-evkin really after hearing about their no warranty process. I really like the look of these ryet ones.
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Did anyone tried those MCELO handlebars? I am looking for something with -17 degree stem to lower my stack on a Gravel bike. The seller told me that this one is -16. But you know don't know if can be trusted. On the auction of the mcelo frame on the bike pictures it does not look that steep but on drawings it says - 16. Funny that they don't inlcude those drawings with angle on handlebar auction.
https://a.aliexpress.com/_EHQRr3r
Would be cool if someone here used it and can tell something about them.
Using not quite accurate method of "hold a stem up to the screen", the top slope of the stem does seem to be close to a -17, but the 100mm bars pictures end up placed nearly identically to where they be FSA ACR -6 90mm stem would place them. The Kalloy Uno -7 100 actually seems lower and longer with this method than the MCELO bars.
MCELO aren't the only ones not being accurate with this though. Specialized with the SL7 stems are lower than you would think due to not accounting for a 7-8mm drop and their 31mm stack height. the -12 is is functionally equivalent to the classic designed -17 stem. Its slightly lower for the 110mm, 120mm, 130mm sizes inclusive of their adapter. I don't know about the 140mm, but i think the -17 would be slightly lower at that length.
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What I am noticing is most of these bars have pretty severe stem angle. I wanted something in 6-8 degree range. These two Ryet bars do have that angle...considering them for an upcoming build involving Yoeleo R12.
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806021171332.html
and
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805978644534.html
The first one seems to have cable port similar to Velobuild's stem and is a stuff of nightmare. Leaning towards the second one for that reason which has wider cable opening. Also like the stubby GPS mount on it.
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Can consider the acr 5d handlebars(vision metron 5d clones)
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The Kocevlo and Ullicyc are the same bar and they are both copies of The One Pro with a different clamp design, but the stem and bars are the same. I bought both The One Pro and Kocevlo bars and they are identical apart from the steerer clamp. The One Pro were about 25g lighter (370g vs 395g); whether that's the clamp design (likely) or a different carbon layup, I couldn't tell any difference between the two. In the end, I went with the Kocevlo due to being half the price. They've been on my bike since May (you can search my posts) and I've raced them a dozen times or so. I like them and would buy again. They're plenty stiff for me and I'm around 85kg and can put out 1600W peak in a sprint. No flex I can feel. Finish is on par for AliEx bars and I don't have any safety concerns even at my weight. I ran mech 1x and now Di2, no issues with cable routing apart from the usual annoyances of fully internal bars. Couldn't tell you if they could handle 2x mech but they look to have ample room albeit a little tight.
So the consensus seems to be, that the Kocevlo bars are the way to go. Would you rate the stiffness on the same level vs The One? The 25g weight difference would be totally worth it if the build quality is the same overall.
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Hygge uses the Kocevlo bars on their Model S, So I have one. Routing the 4 cables for mechanical shifting is no problem (with the routing kit)
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I have a set of Avian falcons, very much worth the price. Super light, quite stiff, available in your spec.
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thinking about this, bit more pricey. anyone has experience with them?
https://www.lightcarbon.com/super-light-carbon-road-integrated-aero-handlebar_p226.html
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thinking about this, bit more pricey. anyone has experience with them?
https://www.lightcarbon.com/super-light-carbon-road-integrated-aero-handlebar_p226.html
How much are they? They are quite light I see
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Also happy with the Kocevlo bar and the logo comes off nicely.
It's a little fiddly, but a Di2 junction box can be zip tied to the included computer mount for those not running fully internal cables.
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How much are they? They are quite light I see
quoted $200USD shipped which is quite a lot
anyone tried these?
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805878269778.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.17.7dacuMtluMtlub&algo_pvid=cfdd757b-d0bc-49a1-bbf4-b1b4ead5724c&algo_exp_id=cfdd757b-d0bc-49a1-bbf4-b1b4ead5724c-8&pdp_npi=4%40dis%21USD%21162.15%2164.80%21%21%211170.74%21467.84%21%402101cff817135224604251609eb1bb%2112000035594433029%21sea%21US%21190578016%21&curPageLogUid=eQfVOJJAbGHW&utparam-url=scene%3Asearch%7Cquery_from%3A
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quoted $200USD shipped which is quite a lot
anyone tried these?
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805878269778.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.17.7dacuMtluMtlub&algo_pvid=cfdd757b-d0bc-49a1-bbf4-b1b4ead5724c&algo_exp_id=cfdd757b-d0bc-49a1-bbf4-b1b4ead5724c-8&pdp_npi=4%40dis%21USD%21162.15%2164.80%21%21%211170.74%21467.84%21%402101cff817135224604251609eb1bb%2112000035594433029%21sea%21US%21190578016%21&curPageLogUid=eQfVOJJAbGHW&utparam-url=scene%3Asearch%7Cquery_from%3A
A lot of people here are using and liking the Kocevlo bars. They are about 60eur in sale. Mine are 350gr in 380/80
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A lot of people here are using and liking the Kocevlo bars. They are about 60eur in sale. Mine are 350gr in 380/80
just learnt i need OD2 compatibility for a giant fork steerer
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Just arrived in the mail. I haven't ridden on it yet but looks nice, very stiff. Only complaint about it, is the top cap area, there's room for improvement on the fit of that. Got this for $120 USD.
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mrMR6l4
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I recently bought a roval sl8 handlebar copy on aliexpress. I get it for 100$ with all accessories included.
Quality is here, i just found the marks for hood position are not aligned but who really cares, screw for computer mount is to change if you want to have a good tightening without destroying it and interface between bar and mount is probably better made on the original too but it works.
About weight, it's light, mine is 325g for 400x100.
Rigidity is here on tops, i found hoods flex more than a alloy bar.
If you want to buy it, have in mind that exit hole is really small for 4 cables, i think like the original, it's made for electronic shifting.
Beware of the shape that is flat and wide on the top if you like this hand position.
I bought it on"hyyd sporting goods Store" which seems to have the lowest price with plenty of dimensions available.
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Just arrived in the mail. I haven't ridden on it yet but looks nice, very stiff. Only complaint about it, is the top cap area, there's room for improvement on the fit of that. Got this for $120 USD.
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mrMR6l4
Any updates? These look nice. Trying to find a narrow 36 cockpit and it’s hard to find my needed stem length of 120mm. Just looking for a 1-piece that isn’t a noodle and comes in narrow/long sizes.
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Just arrived in the mail. I haven't ridden on it yet but looks nice, very stiff. Only complaint about it, is the top cap area, there's room for improvement on the fit of that. Got this for $120 USD.
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mrMR6l4
A pity for their top cap... I'm about to try the gravel version for a new build:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004788375665.html
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A pity for their top cap... I'm about to try the gravel version for a new build:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004788375665.html
I used a credit card in the forward gap between cap and stem to avoid keep the cap edge parallel to the stem edge.
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Any updates? These look nice. Trying to find a narrow 36 cockpit and it’s hard to find my needed stem length of 120mm. Just looking for a 1-piece that isn’t a noodle and comes in narrow/long sizes.
So far so good. Had to use carbon paste on both sides of the spacer insert and torque it up to 7-8nm to stop it from moving. Might be an issue with my fork, I seem to always have this problem.
Rigid under high load so has an assured feel when putting down the watts. Looks great also. Top cap is unfortunate lol. I'm thinking about shaving down some material myself to make it sit better. The provided aluminum bike mount is great, really firm and has several optional attachments.
Would I recommend this? Yes and no, the only problem being the top cap, if you can overlook that, it's a solid handlebar.
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Alright that photo of the gap was bothering me. I took a construction knife to the top cap area and cut/chiseled/scrapped off some material. Much better.
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So far so good. Had to use carbon paste on both sides of the spacer insert and torque it up to 7-8nm to stop it from moving. Might be an issue with my fork, I seem to always have this problem.
Rigid under high load so has an assured feel when putting down the watts. Looks great also. Top cap is unfortunate lol. I'm thinking about shaving down some material myself to make it sit better. The provided aluminum bike mount is great, really firm and has several optional attachments.
Would I recommend this? Yes and no, the only problem being the top cap, if you can overlook that, it's a solid handlebar.
That looks like the wrong top cap frankly. They must have sent you the top cap of another handlebar. I lave a Lexon Vero here and although it created also issues (serious ones), the top cap is fine for it.
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That looks like the wrong top cap frankly. They must have sent you the top cap of another handlebar. I lave a Lexon Vero here and although it created also issues (serious ones), the top cap is fine for it.
Ya I wish that were the case so I could go back to them but it matches their marketing material as well as product photos on their listing. 100% crappy forming on mold for this area.
Did a double take on the listing. If you zoom in, it's not great on their marketing as well... https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/Sa8d74c26ab6943a3af0cdc7d28a56e60Y.jpg_640x640Q90.jpg
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I am looking for a handlebar where the area near the clamp is round. I would like to attach my light and this is only possible on a round tube.
Any Ideas?
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Ya I wish that were the case so I could go back to them but it matches their marketing material as well as product photos on their listing. 100% crappy forming on mold for this area.
Did a double take on the listing. If you zoom in, it's not great on their marketing as well... https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/Sa8d74c26ab6943a3af0cdc7d28a56e60Y.jpg_640x640Q90.jpg
:( sad thing. I chose the Vero for several reasons and at least the top cap has a good fit there.. the spacers which don't allow to be removed for fully integrated setup are also crappy.. I grinded them on my own to ensure that. I will definitely play around with the spacer height a bit.
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I am looking for a handlebar where the area near the clamp is round. I would like to attach my light and this is only possible on a round tube.
Any Ideas?
You'd be attaching to the steerer section where your spacers will likely go, not the handlebar. Alternatively there are handlebar mounts for lights.
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I am looking for a handlebar where the area near the clamp is round. I would like to attach my light and this is only possible on a round tube.
Any Ideas?
Never seen this. But I had the same issue. I bought a new light ;D.
What you could think about is a computer mount. There are adapter clamps for the mount (with a strong rubber band for the light), where you can attach any light to. I never used them, because I already had the new light. Meanwhile I shifted to a Cateye light that is also attached to the computer mount. Because the first rubber band type light was stolen from me ???..