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Other Resources => Component Deals & Selection => Topic started by: MikeyB99 on February 06, 2021, 04:50:32 PM
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Has anyone else found/finding that stock of complete groupsets seems to be non-existent at the moment? I'm in the UK so not sure if it's something specific here (brexit/covid)?
I've been looking since around mid-December at my overall build and stock situation doesn't seem to have changed. Mainly been looking at 105/Ultegra/Force ballpark and want a disc set. Found today somewhere (can't even remember now - maybe Merlins) with Campag Chorus sets in stock which could be an option even though it's a little more than I was looking to spend!
Hoping my Velobuild frame will be with me in the next month or so and would love to have everything lined to ready to build straight away.
Mike
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Yup, you're not alone.
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Aliexpress.com usually has groupsets available. Usually a good deal but without packaging/ boxes.
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Even Ali are out of stock on Shimano components right now.
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Not much going on in China either, the local bike shop is buying cheap bikes whole and stripping them for the groupsets :o. If you can buy off Taobao (Chinese Ali) there is a SRAM Force here: https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.271.8df32f97Q209lG&id=628252926269&ns=1&abbucket=19#detail. The store is good, bought from them before and they seem to allow overseas shipping.
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yes it's a desert! In the summer I needed full Shimano XT and it took me literally a week to find the parts, had to order from CRC, r2, bike-discount and alltricks just to get all the parts. You could check https://www.aliexpress.com/store/3486078?spm=2114.12010612.pcShopHead_12140936.0 they might have something.
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Look on https://www.biketart.com , lucky for me their only a few miles from home
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Thanks for the replies everyone.
Slightly glad to know it's not just me being thick! But gutted at the overall state.
Will take a look at a few of those links - thank you!
Anybody else used the 007Bike Store on Ali? Link below to Ultegra sets they have seems too good to be true (like a lot of stuff on Ali I guess). They have generally good reviews but slightly confused by the callipers and discs in this set not being the Shimano ones I'd expect?
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002004857081.html?spm=2114.12010612.8148356.6.54f733e5gTIDxH
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Thanks for the replies everyone.
Slightly glad to know it's not just me being thick! But gutted at the overall state.
Will take a look at a few of those links - thank you!
Anybody else used the 007Bike Store on Ali? Link below to Ultegra sets they have seems too good to be true (like a lot of stuff on Ali I guess). They have generally good reviews but slightly confused by the callipers and discs in this set not being the Shimano ones I'd expect?
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002004857081.html?spm=2114.12010612.8148356.6.54f733e5gTIDxH
It's legit! I got 2 XT discs from them. Well packaged, very fast dispatch, completely authentic. Its chinese new year now so you might be waiting a while for dispatch.
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I've bought from 007store and delivered quickly
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YEs, two purchases now, no problem but for the usual slow Alie Express shipping when they use UBY tracking but I think that is an Aliexpress thing as it was never an issue before late last year but a lot of the stuff I have ordered recently has been shipped with that service.
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Stock is so low and second hand prices have gone so high that my next groupset will be the sensah 2x12.
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Stock is so low and second hand prices have gone so high that my next groupset will be the sensah 2x12.
Are you building for a road bike?
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Are you building for a road bike?
Yeah I have another ICAN A9 frame that i am building up. I am going to build it up with the full sensah/ZTTO groupset and some ELITE wheels. The full build should only cost me around £1400. I will compare the ride and quality to my r8020 A9 build and then sell on one of the bikes. The only thing that has me apprehensive is the braking quality of the cable actuated hydraulic brakes. I am going to use compressionless housing and I don't do any crazy mountain descents so I hope they will work for me. Once the bike is finished the sensah build will be about 500g lighter than the Ultegra build for nearly half the price! Aiming for 7.5kg fully integrated disc brake aero bike made up of 100% Chinese parts.
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Please share your thoughts after the build with Sensah. Thanks
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Yeah would be equally interested in hearing opinions on Sensah (currently googling/searching for thoughts already out there) as I'm not completely against going down that route and upgrading other bits (cranks for example) as I go!
I actually think the Empire Pro shifters look better than the Ultegra ones (all subjective I know!)
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Yeah would be equally interested in hearing opinions on Sensah (currently googling/searching for thoughts already out there) as I'm not completely against going down that route and upgrading other bits (cranks for example) as I go!
I actually think the Empire Pro shifters look better than the Ultegra ones (all subjective I know!)
Most of the bad reviews come from the first 11 speed generation where part of the shifter was made of plastic and broke frequently. Reviews for the 2x12 version all seem to be pretty good. this one is well put together: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiBTEOAuMKk&ab_channel=ChinaCycling
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Yeah would be equally interested in hearing opinions on Sensah (currently googling/searching for thoughts already out there) as I'm not completely against going down that route and upgrading other bits (cranks for example) as I go!
I actually think the Empire Pro shifters look better than the Ultegra ones (all subjective I know!)
Hi Mikey,
A big problem I encountered with the Sensah Empire pro is the Bottom bracket for the Zrace crank.
It must be a DUB, the SRAM standard, crank which is 29mm. If you are upgrading you may have to replace the Bottom bracket. From experience I have ordered two incorrect Brackets. Normally the Frame takes a 41mm external measurement Bracket, but the crank can be 24mm, 29mm and 30mm. There is a bit of homework required here. BEWARE!!
I am fitting the Sensah Empire Pro with the Zrace cranksets. The shifters look great in carbon fibre, but the hods are a bit light.
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Anybody else used the 007Bike Store on Ali? Link below to Ultegra sets they have seems too good to be true (like a lot of stuff on Ali I guess). They have generally good reviews but slightly confused by the callipers and discs in this set not being the Shimano ones I'd expect?
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002004857081.html?spm=2114.12010612.8148356.6.54f733e5gTIDxH
I'm thinking about this listing too. Did you buy it? I'm wondering if these PRO calipers and rotors are good enough.
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007Bike is good to go. Placed 3 or 4 orders with them and no issues. Parts usually come without original packaging, but all I've received are legit.
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I ordered rotors from 007. Fast shipping, legit product. Price was really decent.
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I'm thinking about this listing too. Did you buy it? I'm wondering if these PRO calipers and rotors are good enough.
No I'm still holding fire.....as I really want the R8020 will full hydraulic (rather than cable to just the piston on the R8000).
SEEBike have this set in stock but I'm right on the fence of buying or not!
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32970211679.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.43664d0fmyg30T&algo_pvid=53b1ae1c-1a5b-468a-8f0d-577e10e72eaf&algo_expid=53b1ae1c-1a5b-468a-8f0d-577e10e72eaf-1&btsid=2100bddf16150630251881296e3aeb&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_,searchweb201603_
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How much was the R7020 or R8020 pre-pandemic? Wondering how large the premium is right now.
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I bought my R7020 parts last August at Bike24.
STIs + Brake calipers are +6%
Rear derraileur +10%
Front derraileur +25%
ofc, nothing of it is stock now.
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I can't believe lack of stock across so many components is such an issue now. I understand covid delays last year, then over-demand with lockdowns and then brexit this year but didn't think we'd still be talking about this in March!
I managed to catch a new(ish) R8020 set on ebay this week for £700 which I felt was a good deal (hopefully no one will tell me otherwise now hah). It had been taken off a brand new bike by someone was upgrading to Dura-Ace so never actually ridden.
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I can't believe lack of stock across so many components is such an issue now. I understand covid delays last year, then over-demand with lockdowns and then brexit this year but didn't think we'd still be talking about this in March!
I managed to catch a new(ish) R8020 set on ebay this week for £700 which I felt was a good deal (hopefully no one will tell me otherwise now hah). It had been taken off a brand new bike by someone was upgrading to Dura-Ace so never actually ridden.
In the summer I was building my FM936, I literally had to buy from all 4 continents. like 10 retailers or something. Things were going out of stock as i was buying them hahaha Lead time is a hell of a thing!
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I'll just leave this here: https://www.bike-discount.de/en/buy/shimano-ultegra-di2-st-r8070-br-r8070-2x11-speed-disc-brake-set-805025
(EDIT: See also https://www.cnc-bike.de/shimano-disc-brakeset-r785br-rs505-flatmount-10001700-p-19460.html)