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Re: Carbonda fm936 Thoughts Whew!!! All 131 pages thoroughly read! The 936 has been high on my list of potential frames, but the hardware quality has been a bit of a booger, IMO. I did some digging into the other brands using the frame and came across this on the Vitus page: https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0365/1272/7173/files/RapideFS_Metric_Spare_Parts_Kit_External.pdf?v=1630512037 It's a superb breakdown of all the pivots, hardware, bearings, everything in the 936 frames! Hopefully, it will be of use to those of us in need of replacement hardware.
February 19, 2022, 06:55:28 PM 		8
Re: Lexon "Riot 10"
Quote from: RongGearRob on February 20, 2022, 10:42:23 PM
My wheelbase on the size L frame with 120mm RS Reba is ~1193mm.
Awesome, thanks! My Norco sits at 1188mm and I was concerned that the Riot would be considerably shorter, based off its relatively small reach & TT numbers. Would hate to order & build one up just for it to be a squirrelly twitchy mess.
February 21, 2022, 12:59:48 AM 		1
Re: Lexon "Riot 10"
Quote from: marq3z on February 16, 2022, 09:33:47 AM
Hi all, anybody knows the font used by LEXON ?? I wanna try to make some decals for my bike because i purchased matte one
It's also the exact same font/graphic used by Ghost, for their "Riot" bike. I'd guess that Lexon just took that & used it after Ghost retired their model.
February 22, 2022, 02:03:49 PM 		1
Re: Carbonda fm936 Thoughts After doing too much math, it's looking like the L is the size for me. Once it's built, mathematically speaking, it should fall within 2-4mm & .5º-1.5º of my Norco's setup, so I'd call that a win.

My question to those that have purchased already is between Regular or SL versions. Aside from weights, do you find that there is a marked difference in the overall build quality/durability of one vs the other? I've seen some chatter here about some internal "roughness" and some frame cracking issues with the Regular versions. Anything of note with the SL?

Just waiting on a buddy to decide if he's getting the FM1001, so we can save on shipping. Otherwise, I'm pulling the trigger on the 936 either way.
February 23, 2022, 03:08:35 PM 		1
Re: Carbonda fm936 Thoughts The frame arrived on Monday. Packed quite well, no damage, won't bore you with the things we all already know. Tossed on some spare wheels, a fork, post, saddle & bars, just to see how it will shape up. I'm going to use the build as part of a short film project, so it's probably going to just sit as-is for a little while until filming starts.
March 23, 2022, 06:34:22 PM 		2
Re: Remote lockout needed?
Quote from: Zomb1e on March 25, 2022, 04:11:36 AM
I think yes if you're going to use your bike as race one. And the best option in your case will be a single remote for both fork and shock - see last 3 or 4 pages of this thread, there were some posts about it.

+1 to this. My 936 and my Norco Revolver FS are both set up for Marathon racing, both using the RockShox TwistLoc remote. One thing that can be guaranteed over the course of an XCM or multi-day stage marathon, is that you will have some long, as in several Kms continuous, steady-state climbs or flat sections. Being able to lock out & conserve energy that would otherwise be negated through (even the best setup) suspension bob, giving you that extra little reserve that the other guy may not have. Of course, there's the "race-winning sprint to the line" that all the marketing types will hype up, but it is another useful example of the lockout.

I can honestly say that having the ability to lock out the suspension was an absolute game-changer for races like Breck Epic, which starts a few of its days with several Kms long paved climbs out of town. Not cycling through the suspension, and subsequently expending that energy made for a much more efficient climb, and a slightly easier day... nothing really easy when the race start is nearly 2 miles/3,000M above sea level!!!

NOTE: If you do decide to run suspension with a remote lockout, pay attention to what the default/"remote unlocked" vs suspension default is. Example: Santa Cruz Blur TR uses Fox F&R units paired to a TwistLoc. The default for the suspension is Locked when the TwistLoc is released, where the Twistloc is designed to be used with suspension that defaults to Open. A broken Twistloc resulted in a completely rigid bike for 2/3 of the longest day of Breck... which included 6.5Km of rocky, technical descending. A simple change to a lever-style lockout switch got things going again, but it is something to be aware of when building up your bike. Check, double-check, and re-check again, that all your parts play well together.
March 25, 2022, 12:38:56 PM 		3
Wing & Carbonda Taking the plunge into the world of Chinese carbon was interesting, to say the least. After much due diligence, I settled on the L FM936 & M FM1001 from Carbonda. I submitted my inquiry and Wing was quick to respond with pricing & general information as to how to conduct the transaction. Communication was superb throughout - including some potential "I might add 3rd, and 4th frame to the order" conversations - and I generally had a reply within 48-72 hours, if not sooner.

Frames arrived well packed, and without any issues, shipping holds, etc. Upon inspecting the frames I found the FM1001 was a L, not the M that was ordered - an easy enough mix-up when pulling orders from the inventory, so I'm not pointing blame/fault at anyone, these things happen.

I contacted Wing, who requested a few photos of the serial number and the small info tag on the inside of the headtube and corrected the mix-up almost immediately. A new M frame is being shipped out, and the L I currently have is repacked, and awaiting shipping tags. Wing said they would send me the tags, to ship to another US-based customer, as soon as they were ready.

As someone who's worked in the cycling industry, in several different roles, for nearly 30 years, I have to say that this is an outstanding example of customer service! As my current role dictates, I have various bikes built up to showcase a range of products, but I try to use bikes that aren't from the "Big-3" or other high visibility brands. Thanks to my experience with Wing & Carbonda, I will definitely be using their frames for my future "showcase" builds!
March 25, 2022, 01:06:35 PM 		15
Re: Carbonda FM909
Quote from: endo.alley on March 28, 2022, 02:58:23 PM
Could this bike be used effectively as a cross country racing bike that can maybe double as a marathon racing bike?

Don't see why it couldn't. It's essentially the 936 with a horizontal vs vertical mount shock. Leverage ratios will be slightly different, due to the 936 being a rocker & the 909 having more of a hanging/swing link, but I doubt it would be a drastic difference. If I hadn't just built a 936, I'd give the 909 a shot for sure.
March 28, 2022, 04:21:59 PM 		1
Re: Carbonda fm936 Thoughts  Size Large built with entirely spare parts. Full GX mechanical, SRAM Rise 60 wheels, 120mm RS-1 & 100mm Deluxe Nude, Reverb, Guide Ultimate brakes, and a few other bits I had kicking around. Haven't weighed it yet, but "ye olde heft-o-meter" feels that it's light enough for a marathon/all-day-ride build. Oh, downtube & chainstay protector were from AliExpress: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002548747061.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.0.0.21ef1802k0WVmN
April 21, 2022, 05:26:59 PM 		8
Re: Carbonda fm936 Thoughts
Quote from: adroitrider on June 03, 2022, 11:14:11 AM
Of note, the trunnion eyelet with remote is starting to trickle out.

I am not sure if this is right eyelet…but I believe the same eyelet for the SidLuxe works for the DeLuxe.

It is more involved than just swapping eyelets. In addition to the eyelet, you would also need the damper shaft, poppet valve shaft, piston seal head & corresponding shim stacks for the remote specific version of the Deluxe. Only the eyelet & the damper shaft are available through after-market sales.

Also, The SIDLuxe & Deluxe are two different designs, so there is no cross-compatibility. There are some SID luxe 165 x 45 Trunnion Remote shocks out there, but this also has two issues: 1. They are M/L compression/rebound settings, so they would need to be re-valved/new shim stacks installed; 2. 45mm stroke is too long for the 936, and will result in contact between the rear end & seat tube. While there is a travel/stroke limiter for reducing to 42.5 or 40mm, there is no official part number listed, so it is for the most part unobtainable at the moment.
June 06, 2022, 05:13:37 PM 		2