If that is the case, which l don't believe, that is one huge conspiracy against the cycling community. $800 frames are the same as top end $4000+ frames. My Riot, while ok quality has many low rent aspects about it. Rear brake tabs not deep enough, voids in the carbon, carbon fraying in the headtube, messy paint here and there.
If i had a highend frame l would be pissed if what you say is indeed true. Im not saying these aren't good bikes. As a matter of fact they almost always get high praise when reviewed because the reviewer is so surprised they ride as good as they do.

Can you back up these claims with any real evidence? This is the same nonsense people have been saying for years but has never been validated. There are plenty of big name brands with sponsored riders that have worse QC while claiming some special layup or engineering going into their frames.

Carbonda even released a statement contradicting brands like Thesis that say they work with the factories to make their version of the open mold special.
http://www.carbonda.com/news/139.html

Do you really think that pro, world cup riders ride $800 frames? Trek, Scott, Yeti, Santa Cruz, Giant and countless others have different levels of carbon for different price points. My Lexon Riot is not the same as the Trinx Eva is riding. Perhaps same the factory, the mold and maybe even the same people making the frame but the materials, quality, fit and finish are way different.

The carbon and materials are way different than what these $800 frames use. Plus extra care and qc go into the $4000 frames the pros use. But it's pretty cool we can ride bikes that are fairly similar to what the big dogs use

What size shock hardware are you guys using? 22.2 for body and shaft is what the website says, is that correct?

Did you not care for the EDC Lite steer tube tool? I have one on order.

I just placed an order for a white frame in size L. Estimated delivery June 8th. I wonder if a Cane Creek InLine shock would fit. Its on an old fm06 and it made a world of difference in performance over the Rock Shox..

What bottom brackets are you all using? Is it compatible with a 30mm spindle?