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Messages - patliean1

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Wheels, groupset, power meter, bike computer, lights. Even TPU tubes. A consumer could technically almost build an entire bike with just Magene products. Minus frame, saddle, and tires. Crazy when you think about it...

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Tantan says the frame only comes in matte black. No custom paint options are available.

This tells me Tantan is probably just brokering the frames rather than manufacturing them. A little unsettling if you ask me.

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You could raffle the frame off after full testing and donate to charity.... Everyone wins!

I really like this idea. Test for a couple of months, and then have the Chinertown moderators randomly select a member to receive the frame afterwards. It's a Festivus miracle!

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C'mon Mr.Lino, just hurry up and order one so you can tell us how it compares to a real SL8...
 I bet it's just gnawing away at you. Pretty soon you won't be able to think about anything else ;D

What it be douchey of me to start a GoFundMe to raise funds? Everyone donates $15 haha

My monthly YouTube revenue and OnlyFan accounts aren't as lucrative as it seems...

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Allez Sprint size 56 -               1521g ($1700)
Blackheart Gravel AL size 56 -  1690g ($2000)
Sodce Alloy Gravel size 46 -     1690g ($400)

For the crowd looking specifically for alloy, this is a solid deal it seems. Granted for $200-$300 more, you're looking at carbon from VeloBuild or TanTan. But I think a frame like this I could totally build for my wife to lure her into cycling.

Thanks for sharing!


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$629 frame + $150 shipping + $31 PayPal convenience fee = $810 And that doesn't include custom paint which is probably another $70. So probably $900 USD total

I'd be lying if I said I wasn't super intrigued about getting the frameset, slapping on some decals, and comparing it to my SL8. But $900 is a lot to gamble on. Especially when previous homage-type frames were decent for the price but missed the mark when comparing to their western brand counter-parts. A comparison probably unfair to make anyway.

Even if I convinced TanTan to send me a frame for review, they told me they aren't promoting this frame. For obvious reasons.

I still want one because....budget frames is life.

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Is it the same feeling as when Velobuild made their 218/Dogma F frame?

I've also built up a VB-168 and VB-268 from Velobuild. Both are essentially SL7 clones. Each frame was solid, with the 268 being stiffer. Neither frames ride anything like the Tarmac and this quickly becomes apparent over bad pavement.

With that said, I'd say TanTan makes more robust frames than Velobuild's offerings. So on paper this new X-68 should ride more similar to the SL8 than the VB-268 does the SL7.

However, I just don't believe TanTan/Seraph are actually manufacturing these new frames. I suspect as @Ludo said TanTan might just be playing broker/agent here. The real question is where is this overstock coming from...

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I've built two road frames up from TanTan/Seraph. Both were loosely inspired off western brands (Scott Foil and Trek Madone) but not identical in geometry. Very solid given the price. I also a TanTan/Tideace GR201 gravel frame on order.

This particular X-68 is conflicting. TanTan is a legitimate brand/factory/whatever and they make reputable products. This is this the first time I've seen them release a product to be straight up clone. Not similar in design or "inspired" like their X-34 and X-38. Actual one to one. From the saddle clamp to the Roval handlebars.

I just hope these frames aren't being supplied to the overwhelming number of fake sellers on AliX

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https://www.seraphbikes.com/Superlight-Disc-Road-Bike-Frame-TT-X68-BSA-Bottom-Bracket-Max-Tire-70028C-With-Integrated-Handlebar-p5836624.html

A far better alternative than buying a bottom bracket exploding fake SL8 in my opinion. Identical geometry of course. Maybe I should get one to compare to my actual Tarmac SL8

Seraph is the "brand" counterpart to Tantan if I'm not mistaken...

EDIT: Even the geometry chart is using a photo of a frame with an SL7 Tarmac stem and spacers  ;D



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Got a GR201 on order in gold/champagne color. Pretty excited.

My plan is to run a separate bar/stem combo to easily add TT bars later. While the likelihood of ever using TT bars is minimal unless I do Unbound 200, it will be nice to play around with the front end for optimal fit.

Can't decide on Di2 12sp 2x, or Sram eTap 1x. Or XPLR 1x 13sp. The latter is quite expensive.

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Some of my most interesting reads are books from people I disagree with. Understanding other people's perspectives is helpful mental gymnastics at many levels.

I've met some amazingly talented and helpful folks within cycling (and life) by taking this approach. Some of which on the surface felt like personal attacks towards me. All it took was a listening ear and then BAM a new long-term friend and resource.

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I'm gonna wait for @SergeK to chime in hahaha

My take is: This should end any doubt whether or not a "Chinese" frame could withstand the use of professional cyclists. Assuming it is in fact LightCarbon. Shout out to them for offering a quality product.

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I suspected they were from Light Carbon.

Considering my Yishun/LC R086-D frame is stellar, it makes sense.

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Anyone know what frame this is? hahaha  ;D

https://www.cyclingweekly.com/racing/exclusive-british-professional-team-glued-fake-uci-compliance-stickers-to-bikes-purchased-from-china

Cliff Notes:

-The team began using unbranded bikes imported from China during the 2022 season after a sponsorship deal with Lapierre collapsed.

-Sources discovered the frames were not UCI legal; they are unbranded and the sticker does not conform to the UCI’s approval specification. A spokesperson for the team told CW that the stickers were applied “in-race”, contravening the UCI’s rules.

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+1 for Yishun/Light Carbon

And they are also one of the few OEM companies offering stems which are compatible to run cables internally. Would be nice if they made 36cm width bars.

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