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Re: Velobuild VB-R-177 Alrighty...so my 177 is basically finished. Just have to wrap the bars.

Some quick tidbits for anyone considering the separate stem/bar combo:

1. The stem I ordered is a 120mm, but it actually measures closer to 125mm if you measure it like a traditional stem. VeloBuild measures the stem from the center of the compression bolt to the actual center point (half-way point) of the top section of the bars...rather than where the faceplate intersects. Dengfu does the same thing too and I suspect other Chinese brands do the same.

2. Speaking of handlebars...there are no handlebar specs on the website, but I measured the reach of the handlebars to be around 90mm. Handlebar drop is about 125mm

Just wanted others to be aware for comparing bike fits. Pics coming later today. its 20 degrees F here in chicago  :(

December 22, 2021, 09:03:29 AM
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Re: Velobuild VB-R-177 Final weight without bottle cages, computer mount, or pedals: 7.6kg
Difficult to tell in the photos but the paint is chameleon blue and purple. Blurple.

Size M
120mm Stem
400mm Handlebars


December 22, 2021, 01:37:52 PM
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Re: Velobuild VB-R-177 First Impressions video is live. VeloBuild also sent me an EPS latex molding of the frame, as well as a broken down cut up carbon frame to inspect the insides of the frame. I discuss this in the video. Pretty cool!


December 23, 2021, 09:16:30 AM
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Re: Velobuild VB-R-177 Nice decals!! VeloBuild has been great to work with.
December 23, 2021, 10:57:26 AM
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Re: Velobuild VB-R-177
Great video! I did my first ride with the 177 and I really liked the feeling of the ride compared to the VB-099. The 177 feels more nimble/agile and compliant over uneven roads, considering most of my rides are over bad tarmac I really liked the change. As for the fork issue with the rivet not being parallel, Velobuild was nice enough to send me a new one, once I get the new fork I will update the ride experience.

My bike weighs 8.1KG with 105 Groupset and Elite DT240 Wheels (38MM)

Where did you get that rubber seatpost seal/cover?

December 23, 2021, 02:51:48 PM
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Re: Velobuild VB-R-177

How is the 177 ride experience so far?
How is the stiffness of the separate stem and handlebar setup?
I have notice the Velobuild HB011 integrated handlebar flexes too much especially on the drops. I wonder if anybody observed this same issue with that handlebar?

Sadly Winter has finally hit Chicago. Only have been able to to put about 125mi/200km on the bike.

First Impressions: Coming from an Allez Sprint as my primary bike (which personally isn't as harsh as people say) I was surprised how comfortable and compliant the ride quality is. Chicago has notoriously bad roads so it's something you're always aware of. You can hear the bad pavement with the 177, you just don't really "feel" them. For comparison sake, I am running the Hyper 65s and GP5000s on both my Allez Sprint and 177 (for now).

The separate handlebar/stem combo is plenty stiff enough. I'm not a sprinter so my max watt is like 1000w, maybe 1100w on my best day. No flexing as far I can tell. One thing to note with the separate handlebar/stem, is that getting the compression plug and expander bolt to properly take up all the slack/play in the fork has been tricky. Perhaps I just need to cut the steerer a little shorter to allow the dust cap to further compress without crushing it.

Lastly, I did order some 38mm deep wheels from VeloBuild. They should be here hopefully today or tomorrow. Curious to see how much they weigh.


December 29, 2021, 10:07:11 AM
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Re: Velobuild VB-R-177 Hey Everyone,

My intentions are not to spam this thread with my photos. However, I finally received my VeloBuild 38mm wheels after a two week delay courtesy of my local postal service  :( . The Hyper 65s I originally had on the 177 are for my Winspace T1500 which I will be building up this weekend.

1. They are pretty heavy. 1778g for the pair. For comparison sake, my Winspace Hyper 65s weigh 1610g. Lighter yet significantly deeper wheels, but also significantly more expensive. You could buy three pairs of VB wheels for the price of Hypers. Just something to consider...

2. Specs are tubeless clinchers with the tubeless tape already installed. 25mm external, 19mm internal. The wheels come with valve extenders, but sadly no extra spokes or tubeless valves. Standard Novatec hubs. I've used these hubs on my Yoeleo wheels and they are perfectly fine.

3. This is the final "form" for the build. Without power meter pedals, carbon bottle cage, or Garmin mount...final weight is 8kg

I'm working on my official video review of the build, but for the price and weight I have to say it's a lovely deal. The light weight carbon of the 177 offsets the heavy wheels in my opinion, so basically you're getting a big-brand quality frameset, handlebars, and wheels for under $1000. Add your favorite groupset and you're looking at a setup that would probably cost almost double in price from one the main brands out there.

PS - the gold chain is from OG-Evkin. I probably own about 8-10 different components from them. They offer solid value for the price.

December 30, 2021, 03:08:31 PM
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Re: My Dengfu R12 - First Impressions and Video Happy Friday Everyone,

Just uploaded a video of my finished R12 build. Actual ride and road impressions are coming at later time. Perhaps I should do a battle between all of my framesets. We shall see...

YouTube Search Title: My Dengfu R12 Is FINISHED!


January 14, 2022, 02:47:54 PM
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Re: Velobuild VB-R-177 If you haven’t had a professional bike, then a size L makes the most sense. I’m 6ft tall with a 6’3” wingspan and a short torso. Not sure of my inseam but long legs too.

Because I’m trying to maximize being low and aero for racing purposes, although the 177 will be for CX not road racing, taking a smaller frame with a longer stem is pretty typical. That’s why I chose the separate handlebar and stem combo versus the integrated. I needed the reach.

Now in your case it sounds like a size L will be best. I’m sure Chris has recommended hundreds of customers so I tend to believe he has your best interest in mind based on the limited info provided. And if you still aren’t sure the you essentially have two options:

Option #1 - Bike Geometry Comparison Chart
Option #2 - Bike Fit :)

Let me know what you decide

January 15, 2022, 06:13:20 PM
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Re: Velobuild VB-R-177 Personally, I'm happy the Far East brands are hopping on the bandwagon to produce more "long and low" bikes. Granted I know this geometry does not work for everyone, but having to run a 130mm or even a 140mm stem just to achieve the optimal bike fit (while being low/aero enough) is not ideal.

It's getting to the point that 54cm frames are almost more so traditional 56cm.

January 17, 2022, 10:47:27 AM
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