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Re: ZTTO MTB M1 Boost hubs 28H 54T Ratchet I've got a set built up on Light Bicycle rims with pillar spokes as my main wheelset.
I'm 100km of off road riding on them in the mud and rocks (servere conditions)  with high loads on a 170mm travel bike that has high pedal kick back.
This can load the freehub very heavily.

If they were abnormally weak I would have killed them by now so far so good I'll report back as I get more mileage on them
I break things.

The spoke lengths from ZTTO were spot on.

October 21, 2020, 04:57:58 PM
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Re: Best sub $400 carbon 29er wheels
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mNRgoKd

Here’s the best I’ve found 25mm internal width and ratchet drive dt Swiss 240 clone hubs

December 09, 2020, 04:54:25 PM
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Re: ZTTO MTB M1 Boost hubs 28H 54T Ratchet Update: i broke them after about 150km of riding
 ratchet mechanism skipping

January 13, 2021, 03:15:33 PM
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Re: ZTTO MTB M1 Boost hubs 28H 54T Ratchet
Photos of the internals please. I'm guessing it cracked?
Rider weight and max rear ring might also be relevant. I suspect if you have rear 40T vs rear 20T thats going to be half the force hitting the ratchet.


Internals are still intact no obvious signs of destruction. very little marring on the teeth and not excessive lubrication,  dry parts or contamination present they look good but they slip under torque
I tried pulling the springs to get them a bit stiffer, still skips.
I took the ratchet out and put them into a dt swiss hub....it skips.in the dt swiss hub
I put the DT swiss ratchets out and put them in the ztto hub....the ztto hub works fine with the DT Swiss ratchets.
And naturally the DT swiss ratchets back in the DT swiss hub works fine again.
So it is 100% the ratchet gears.

contacted ZTTO and requested a 36T, they indicated they would send one,  haven't received it yet....but it's still within the normal delivery time from Ali parts
 in the mean time I purchased a 18T dt swiss set of ratchets and have carried on using the hubs.    (18T cause they are cheap as dirt and readily available from people who upgraded)

I'm 180lbs a strong rider and I heard it skip a few times previously on some rocky technical climbs,  eventually giving out on a rocky climb that requires some sprinting to clean the obstacles. To the point where it could not sustain enough torque to pedal out of anything.

As mentioned the bike I ride has some high suspension travel chain growth and  notable pedal kick back at low speed when it goes deep into the travel. So loads could be considerable...
that stated I've run legit DT swiss hubs  for much longer with no issues.


In fact this is the first hub I've ever blown the guts out of. without years and years of use and no maintenance.


February 10, 2021, 08:58:24 PM
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Re: ZTTO MTB M1 Boost hubs 28H 54T Ratchet I suspect that the replacement ratchets  ztto sells could be different possibly better made than what is in those hubs. The hubs are pretty generic around AliExpress with many different names and logos

Also I could have just gotten a turd. 
Reading Mtbr reviews the guys on the German forums didn’t have any luck with these hubs either until they switched to dt Swiss guts

I haven’t heard bad things about the ztto ratchets that are sold separately....course I don’t ride them either

I have 2 wheel sets with these hubs I plan to run the crap out of the other ones (with a set of ratchets in my pocket) and see if they break as well as beat on the ztto ratchets  I’ll report back confidence or failures


I really like the idea of good affordable lightweight  hubs...and want them to work
lace these with a set of DIY dyneema spokes and carbon rim from Btlos and you can get a 1200g Wheelset for like 500-600 bucks

Buying dt Swiss internals at retail kills the value equation here though

February 19, 2021, 09:55:04 AM
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Re: ZTTO MTB M1 Boost hubs 28H 54T Ratchet https://www.mtbr.com/threads/make-your-own-polymer-uhmwpe-spokes.1091276/

Look here page 19-20 some guy bent spoke ends and tig welded it.
then put it together using kitesufing line and some fancy eyesplices.

I've tested soldering and it works fine.  rope breaks before spoke end does >180kg.
a bit fiddly getting it to stretch out to the correct  length.  but about 1/2 the weight of a good spoke.
some prestretching is likely neeeded to set the eyesplices properly



inspired by berd spokes. but in my opinion a more elegant solution and a work around their patents. 
I've got a few spokes made up like this in my existing wheel build to see if they cause any problems or stretch badly causing out of true scenerio
I'm using regular dyneema kitesurfing line and haven't bothered with the DM 20 cause I have tons of the regular stuff laying around and am wondering if it'll creep badly or if it's good enough.




February 20, 2021, 05:13:48 PM
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Elyon Forx 36 Curious If anyone has sampled one of these yet
Looks a shameless fox knockoff wondering if that goes for the internals as well?

https://a.aliexpress.com/_uyQqVL

Anyone test pilot one?

May 24, 2021, 09:11:02 PM
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Re: BTLOS Wheels I have ordered 3 or 4 wheelsets from. Them 10-20 days was normal response time between order and shipment

The level of customization they are clearly being built to order

Some pandemic problems occur in that region in China at the moment as well so everything will take longer 20-30 days would not alarm me. I’m m currently waiting in another set myself as well

April 01, 2022, 11:45:26 AM
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Re: DT 240EXP hub clones Goldix, Venfort Goldix hubs are great.  I’m a big dude and ride like a gorilla and break everything
36t ratchet is solid…I’ve blown up a LOT of hubs.
This is much more solid than the ztto hubs

I’ve been riding them for a year hard Mtb riding on a bike with high pedal kickback that blows up a lot of hubs this one is SOLID.

Bearings are a little cheap I expect I’ll need to replace the outboard bearing but these are cheap common and readily available .

They will also do custom logos for a reasonable price if you are not into gold Dix

I’ve hucked  my bike to the point of exploding tires are rims and these hubs took it

September 21, 2022, 07:24:08 AM
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Re: DT 240EXP hub clones Goldix, Venfort Blown up 2 Ztto M1 hubs.  killed the 54t ratchets  replaced with fovno ratchets then killed the spline that connects the ratchet to the hub.

Have multiple sets of Goldix hubs that I beat on.
Goldix hubs have been bullet proof. Oldest Running for 2 years now trouble free

September 20, 2023, 05:14:13 PM
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