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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild VB-R-177
« on: February 15, 2022, 04:13:31 AM »
I have 28mm tyres on mine and there's loads of room to spare. The spec sheet says 32mm will fit and it does look like that to me.

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild VB-R-177
« on: December 15, 2021, 08:43:51 AM »
Ivor I just received mine and with the new stem/handlebar combo, the top cap is made out of carbon and does not really secure anywhere, just the bolt seems to hold it in place. Did you have a hard time with that? There is a little dent underneath that is very small and seems to align with an opening in the stem but there is no contact to secure.
Hi there, my top cap is thin metal. It screws down into the expander plug.
The handlebar and stem on the velobuild website photos is different to the one piece handlebar/stem that i got.
Here's a couple of photos (bit blurry).

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild VB-R-177
« on: December 13, 2021, 03:14:03 AM »
Looks really great! Congratulations!
How is it holding up so far?
I am considering to get this frame.
How is the seatpost? Does it slide down out of position when riding?
Also how is the stiffness of the button bracket area?
Thanks for any response you can give.
The bike has been great so far!
Haven't done many rides...maybe 10 x 40 miles, but it's very comfy (28mm tubeless tyres help with that).
The seatpost hasn't slipped at all. The good thing is that it's a standard round seatpost, so can be replaced if you wanted to. You could save a little bit of weight.
As far as the bottom bracket stiffness goes - I'm not really qualified to say! I've only been riding since Covid and the only other bike I've ridden is a 2012 Giant Defy, so I haven't got much to compare to. Plus I wouldn't say that i am the most powerful rider and i've never tried sprinting or trying to dance on the pedals going up hill.
I love it, and it always gets questions from other riders when out and about so it looks great too.

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild VB-R-177
« on: September 09, 2021, 12:31:15 PM »
Hi Ivor,

Bike looks amazing! Just waiting to build up my velobuild that I'll post about on here once done. I've seen you ordered wheels from Elitewheels. How long did they take to arrive once dispatched, I've seen they've posted mine via XDB so not sure on timescales. Velobuild frame turned up in less than 10 days, very impressed :)

Jake

Hi Jake,
I think the shipping was quick once the wheels were made. Probably less than two weeks. It took around 4 weeks for the wheels to be made however, so in total around 6 weeks.
I ordered the frame from velobuild and the wheels from elite on the same day and had the wheels delivered about 10 weeks before the frame!
I love the wheels - I upgraded to lighter spokes for an extra $50. They are roughly 1500g for the pair. Now set up as tubeless.

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild VB-R-177
« on: September 06, 2021, 04:21:38 PM »
Hi, very nice bike.
I've put another 80 miles into mine and I think it's great. No problems whatsoever.
Where do you get the silicone seat post ring from?
Thanks

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild VB-R-177
« on: August 09, 2021, 04:34:42 PM »
Been out for a ride - the bike is great!
Very fast and comfy. The brakes are excellent, but bear in mind I've never used any sort of disc brakes before.
I'm sure hydraulic brakes would be better but I'm impressed with the juin tech.
First time I've used deep wheels too so I definitely noticed the wind a couple of times.

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild VB-R-177
« on: August 04, 2021, 05:56:07 AM »
I love the brown on black. I'm leaning to a VB-R-066, but I haven't ruled out the 177. I've got some questions for you!

Did you consider the 066? Was there somethig about the 177's geometry that sold you?
Is the bar/stem carbon?
What bottom bracket did you use?
What press tool did you use?
Can you describe how routing the rear brake line went?
Do you think hydraulic lines would be any harder to route than the Juin's mechanical housings?
Do you think that the lines would be easier to route if there were no deraileur cables to route?

Sorry to pepper you with a bunch of questions with my first Chinertown post.

Hi, i love the brown on black too! The saddle and bar tape are both Prologo so i was hoping they would be the same shade of brown, but the saddle is a lot darker.
I didn't consider the VB-R-066 as i wanted the clean, integrated bar with full internal cable routing. Nothing specific geometry wise to be honest.
The bar and stem is carbon - looks great
I got a ZTTO BB86 24mm ceramic bottom bracket from Aliexpress. It threads in the middle.
The press tool was also from aliexpress - MUQZI Bicycle Bottom Bracket Install and Removal Tool. It has cups for all sorts of BBs
The routing of all of the cables through the frame was very easy, even with the BB installed. The difficult bit was then threading through the integrated bar. There was no cable guides installed in anything.
I had 3 attempts to get the handlebar installed on the fork - the first two i got the outer cables crossed over inside the head tube and when tightened down, it was impossible to thread through the inner cables so i had to reroute the cables through the handlebar so that they were in the correct order from headtube into handlebar.
I would assume that hydraulic brake lines would be exactly the same process and difficulty as the mechanical brake housing. Just keep the brake lines in the correct order when installing handlebar on to fork. Inside the frame is easy. I would have gone for hydraulic brakes but the price for shifters + calipers was crazy!
If you were to not use derailleur cables (electronic shifting), then the cabling will be easier through the handlebars.

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild VB-R-177
« on: July 30, 2021, 03:26:39 PM »
How are the juin tech F1 brakes? I've been considering a 177 project but the price of 105 hydraulic brifters + calipers is crazy.
I haven't managed to ride the bike yet! Bad weather and groin strain.
The juin tech brakes look quality though including the packaging.
Problem is that the clearance is tiny even with the adjustment screw all the way out. They rub all the time. The back is fine but I can't sort the front out.
I can stop it rubbing with the top screw into the frame fully tightened and the bottom screw about 80% tight. When I fully tighten the bottom screw holding the caliper, it starts to rub again. Not sure if the screws holes in the fork are slightly out.
I also have some zrace calipers from AliExpress and the juin tech look far better quality. The zrace are only one sided too

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild VB-R-177
« on: July 30, 2021, 04:13:56 AM »
Finally finished my build. Very happy with the result!
First of all, everything from velobuild was excellent. There was only one slight problem with one of the holes for the front brake caliper - it was too short, so I had to use a shorter screw.
The internal cable routing was "interesting". Had three attempts but the cables were crossing over inside the head tube and were seizing up.
Got it in the end though.
Wasn't doing a weight weenie build at all, but the final bike as pictured is 7.5kg so 7.2kg without pedals. Happy with that!
It's one by, with a 42t SRAM chainring on a 105 crankset (wanted to keep this as I have an xcadey power meter). The rear derailleur is SRAM rival medium cage. Cassette is sroad 10-36. Brakes are juin tech F1 with SRAM rotors. Tyres are Goodyear F1 tubeless 28mm. There's loads of space there so looks like you'd get 32mm in with no problems. Shifters are SRAM force 11.
Wheels are from elite on AliExpress. 47mm deep.
Went for brown on black with the saddle, bar tape and tyres.


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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild VB-R-177
« on: July 16, 2021, 05:04:03 AM »
Well, this was a shock. My frame got shipped on the 13th and this morning has been delivered to my house in the UK so 3 days shipping and no import charges! It was using EMS HK.
Obviously the first thing to do was to weigh everything. It's a size 54 - M clear coat paint.

Frame (with derailleur hanger, FD mount, bottle cage screws, seat post clamp, grommets) = 1039g
Fork uncut = 384g
Seat post with all fittings = 211g
Handlebar (400 width, stem 100) = 311g

Everything looks very neat and tidy - can't wait to put it all together.

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild VB-R-177
« on: July 13, 2021, 07:29:35 AM »
Sorry to grave dig. Any update on the frame especially weight?
This has been a long, drawn out process!
Finally today, the status of my order is shipped from Velobuild after placing the order at the end of March!
I have been emailing Chris regularly and in fairness he always replies very quickly. Each update the shipping date went out by a few weeks.
As this is a new frame, sounds like the large size was tested and moulded out first with other sizes following which has lead to a delay.

Just have to wait to see how long shipping to UK is now...I've had all the bits for the build (apart from chain and carbon paste) for months.

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild VB-R-177
« on: April 01, 2021, 03:49:41 PM »
The frame was ordered on the velobuild website, the wheels were from elite wheels store on AliExpress. Can't remember what AliExpress store the cassette came from but it's from Zroad.

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Velobuild VB-R-177
« on: April 01, 2021, 02:10:15 AM »
Hi all, after lurking on here for ages and doing my own research, I've pulled the trigger and order a Velobuild VB-R-177.
The geometry is almost exactly the same as a Scott Addict as far as i can tell.
No word on when shipping will be yet - this is a new design so the frame is in testing, but that was due to finish at the end of March.

http://www.velobuildmall.com/products/2020-vb-r-177-super-light-carbon-fiber-road-frame-disc-version-hidden-cables

I also ordered some 47mm wheel from Elite Wheels on Aliexpress. Production time for these is 13-20 working days, and shipping is 25-50 working days so i don't expect to see these very soon.
Also going one by as I hate front derailleurs! 42T Sram chainring with a 10-36 11speed cassette from Aliexpress.

Let's see how I get on!

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velo Build R-099 Build
« on: January 04, 2021, 09:07:25 AM »
The Velo Build VB-R-099 would be my choice at the moment...or at least i thought so! They now have a VB-R-168 and VB-R-177 for sale. Both say that they are fully integrated with handlebars, but the pictures show a hole in the top of the fork.
The VB-R-177 must be very new as it's not yet available... looks very light too - 920g for a size M, 32mm tyres, 160mm rotors, 27.2mm seatpost. Could be the one when i can get enough money together!

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Opinions on Elves frames
« on: December 11, 2020, 08:13:15 AM »
Seen a few video on YouTube, Seem to have really nice paintjobs , seem to be very popular in the Philippines and Malaysia, Anybody built up a frame from them?

Hi, I've seen these and am interested also. Looks like a good quality, lightweight frame! Plus it's not an open mold as far as I can tell.
The top tube is tiny so you'd be in a low, fast, aero position on this bike.

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