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Chinese Carbon MTB => 29er => Topic started by: Icyseanfitz on February 10, 2021, 09:51:37 AM
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Hi guys, gonna start a thread on here for my p9 build, hopefully have it finished in around a month. Its taking me a while to get the parts together as I want to do a high end build with it. I've gone with a 180mm fork up front as availability of 170mm was non existent at time of ordering, hopefully wont destroy the feel of the bike but i can always reduce it.
Frame - ICAN p9 custom blue paint
Wheels - ICAN 40mm wide carbon rims with novatech 902b hubs
Fork - 2021 rockshox lyrik ultimate 29er 180mm 42mm offset
Shock - EXT storia 210x55 with both a 550lbs + 575lbs spring
Groupset - Shimano XTR 12sp shifter + derailleur and hopefully the cranks if I can find them, i'll use XT for the cassette.
Brakeset - Hope v4s
Headset - Chris king dropset in silver
Bottom bracket - Chris king threadfit in silver
Rotors - Magura MDR-P, F=220 R=200, ti brake bolts in silver
Adapters - alixpress job
Seatpost collar - hope 35mm silver
Handlebar - Oneup carbon 35mm bar @ 800mm
Stem - Oneup 35mm stem
Grips - Ergon GE1 Evo Factory
Tools - Oneup EDC stash tool in steerer
Bash guard - oneup
Tyres - WTB verdict wet 2.5 front, WTB judge 2.4 rear
Frame protection - Full custom invisiwrap (not installed by me) on frame and rear rim
Thats all I've currently got but I am hoping to finish it off with:
Cranks - XTR m9100
Cassette - XT 10-51 12sp
Chain - XTR
Dropper - SRAM AXS 170mm (got a magura vyron 150mm instead)
Pedals - Oneup alu pedals in silver
Saddle - Ergon Sm Enduro in oil slick
Hopefully it all works out :) I will attach a few pictures of what I currently have.
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That's a really nice color.
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That's gonna be a great bike
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Here's hoping
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Dang, that's a nicely spec'ed bike. This corona boom really messed up parts availability, hope you can find everything you need.
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Debating tyre inserts as well, would really love to try the archer components D1x Trail wireless shifting system with the xtr mech.
Has there been any p9 frame failures BTW, just to keep an eye out.
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really cant wait to test out this shock ;D
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Nearly finished my build now, changed the Axs dropper for a magura vyron but I've gotten everything else I hoped I would :)
Only issue I'm having is some play in the rear somewhere, I'm nearly sure its the bushings or hardware for the shock as that's where I can feel it the most. Anyone had issues with using the little adapters that come with the frame and 22x8mm top and bottom? Saw a video of someone just using 30x8 top and 25.4x8 bottom so might give that a go.
Don't think its the frame bearings as I inspected, removed the dust seals and regreased them all, and they looked perfect.
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After ordering some 1 degree offset bushings (30x8, 25.4x8) after removing my shock and finding the existing lower bushing to be very loose, I could easily push it in and out of the eyelet. I take it they are meant to be a tight fit? Would this have given me the issue with play?
I figure my HA will be somewhere around 64 with the longer fork and offset bushings (which will lower bb height as well). And then I can artificially steepen the SA by pushing my saddle forward on top of the vyron having a more forward clamp than most any other seat post.
Seat post is after arriving, must say I am impressed with the vyron, looks like a quality piece of equipment, makes a lovely electronic actuation noise as well.
Only thing left is chain and pedals.
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Bike is so good downhill especially with a coil! only thing I was unsure about with the p9 was the fork offet. There was 2 documents with different offset though you'll enjoy the bike regardless.
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I got a 2021 lyrik ultimate with 42mm offset, I take it the smaller offset will make the wheelbase slightly shorter and easier to turn in to corners.
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I got a 2021 lyrik ultimate with 42mm offset, I take it the smaller offset will make the wheelbase slightly shorter and easier to turn in to corners.
Sounds good! I was on a 51 offset and if I went with the 42, it would've help with the corners.
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I pulled the trigger on the P9 aswell with custom paint. How was the paint quality they did?
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Yeah was quite good, I'd imagine it could get damaged/scaped off quite easy, I put a full heavy duty inviswrap on the frame to try and keep it good.
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final parts on the way, had to get an xtr chain as i couldn't find any xt 12 speed chains available, and some grey/silver oneup alu pedals
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Build is finally finished, been a long year of getting the parts I wanted together with the shortage on parts/brexit. Needs a few good test runs to see how well/badly I put it together :D but it feels lovely, feels quite slack actually, I'll have to see whether ill keep it at 180 or reduce it, I figure the HA is somewhere around 64 at the moment with the increased fork travel and 1 degree offset bushings in the shock (which fixed my issue with play).
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Took it for its first spin today, climbs better than I thought it would tbh, not a great climbing bike or anything but it gets you there (although funnily enough I got a PB on the main climb), the 28t oval ring up front probably helps a lot. Lockout on the storia shock is lovely too.
The descending is going to take some getting used to ;D this is my first 29er and it has made all my tricks for getting around awkward features on the trails absolutely irrelevant, I fully understand the term monster truck now. Scary the speed it carries once going, and that shock is just buttery smooth, hitting top 3 in my Strava times on my first runs.
So far, really really impressed. Heading out again tomorrow on it.
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having a bit of a weird issue that I cant for the life of me figure out guys, wondering if ye might have any ideas. So if I put a lot of power down through the left crank I am getting a weird knocking/play feel up through the pedal, it only happens on the left crank and not the right, and it happens once per crank rotation, doesn't matter whether I'm sitting or standing, and it is only when I put an excessive amount of force through the left crank. If I'm climbing or pedaling normally I wouldn't really notice it, but if I'm trying to get an extra hard crank in going down a trail I can feel it.
I've tried swapping cranks, bbs and pedals and nothing has changed it, there's no play that I can find in the linkage or shock, same with the rear wheel all seems good, the only thing I can think of that's left might be the freehub/cassette or derailleur but my gears are working perfectly and if it was that id assume it would be present on both the right and left cranks push so i doubt its that.
I am completely stumped tbh any ideas would be great
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Have you checked if your cleats are loose?
Edit: Forget that, I see you are on flats.
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Build is finally finished, been a long year of getting the parts I wanted together with the shortage on parts/brexit. Needs a few good test runs to see how well/badly I put it together :D but it feels lovely, feels quite slack actually, I'll have to see whether ill keep it at 180 or reduce it, I figure the HA is somewhere around 64 at the moment with the increased fork travel and 1 degree offset bushings in the shock (which fixed my issue with play).
It is a OneUp tube tools right ? Does it fit a standard tapered fork ?
And one curious question, what have you attached to the top tube ?
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Yeah it's a oneup EDC tool, fits a a tapered steerer, and I have a fidlock bottle mount attached to the top tube
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so did a full strip down today, faced the bb shell a bit, rechecked and greased all the pivot and shock hardware and torqued to spec, took the rear wheel apart and checked freehub and everything seems perfect. I'm probably going to have to live with it at this stage but my god its such a weird problem that its wrecking my head ;D its so specific to power on the down stroke of the left crank. another minor detail I noticed is that the spokes in my rear wheel ping a bit after riding, but i checked the tension and tightened them a little and they all seemed okay.
Could it be a crack forming somewhere in the frame? Only thing left that i can think of to try is a different wheel and see if that solves it
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Figured it out :-[ I put a rubber chainstay protector on last week, thought the clearance was enough but it was rubbing the right crank under load when I'd push the left, FML :D
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Figured it out :-[ I put a rubber chainstay protector on last week, thought the clearance was enough but it was rubbing the right crank under load when I'd push the left, FML :D
Flex in the frame or do you need to torque the crankset up tighter?
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No it's all good, I added another BB spacer which gave the cranks more clearance and now no more knocking, alternatively I could have just removed the cheap chainstay protector and I would have been good.
Just a note to make actually, the xtr m9100 crankset I bought doesn't work with this frame, q factor is too tight, was spinning freely with about 5ish mm clearance on both chainstays but it was leaving marks on the paint. Using a deore crankset currently but will buy an xt one
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Headset - Chris king dropset in silver
Which Chris King Dropset did you put in? The GripLock Tapered S.H.I.S. IS42/28,6 to IS52/40 1 1/8"-1 1/2"?
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It's a dropset 2 in silver, https://chrisking.com/products/dropset-2
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Which Chris King Dropset did you put in? The GripLock Tapered S.H.I.S. IS42/28,6 to IS52/40 1 1/8"-1 1/2"?
So am guessing IS42/28,6 to IS52/40 1 1/8"-1 1/2" is the measurement of P9 headtube. Anyone can confirm this?
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So am guessing IS42/28,6 to IS52/40 1 1/8"-1 1/2" is the measurement of P9 headtube. Anyone can confirm this?
Confirmed.
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What downtube protector are you using? Looks exactly what I envisioned for my bike.
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I bought this raaw protector (https://www.bike-components.de/en/RAAW-Mountain-Bikes/Down-Tube-Protector-for-Madonna-p75890/), had to cut the lip off of one end to make it fit properly but it has been perfect so far.
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I see evolve are releasing a new linkage for the p9 frame, 160mm travel with trunnion mount.
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That linkage looks good, thanks for letting us know! By the way, do you happen to know the maximum insertion for seat tubes / dropper posts? You were going to fit a 170mm Reverb AXS, is that one too long? I have a 150mm Reverb AXS on hand right now and worry if maybe it's a little too short.
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I went with a magura vyron 150mm in the end, it's not slammed which makes me think a 170mm would work but can't guarantee it.
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How is the P9 bike so far? Still riding it?
I have the Ican P1, and am considering purchasing the P9 frame.
Just wondering what your thoughts on P9 are so far
-Crankydad