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29er / Re: Dengfu M06
« on: May 15, 2017, 09:36:06 PM »
Just used the cad drawings.

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29er / Re: Dengfu M06
« on: May 13, 2017, 06:14:46 PM »
No i did not. I haven't had time yet as this is the busy season for work. I went off geometry specs but i do believe the pivot point compared to the Yeti is a little lower so i'm sure the anti-squat numbers aren't as good.
Yep, you're right. Rainy day, so I drew it on Linkage and the anti-squat was not that great, neither the progression. I added it to Linkage library if you're curious to check.

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29er / Re: Dengfu M06
« on: May 13, 2017, 11:55:58 AM »
So, looking at this frame more closely it seems it's based off the new Yeti ASRc. Understanding it is a single pivot design i'm wondering if that's a step backwards as most "modern" designs are of the floating type suspensions. The redesigned Yeti has received good reviews and looking the frame up on Linkage Design, it has good antisquat numbers as well as pedal kickback and braking squat. I wonder how similar this frame would feel  ::)

Anyone..........anyone..........hello, Mcfly???

Did you draw the bike in Linkage ? Wondering about the anti-squat numbers.

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29er / Re: Charles M06 XL build
« on: May 13, 2017, 11:47:35 AM »
I think the bottle cage holes should have been made lower.
Definitely this, my backwards mounted shock barely clears the bottle. Maybe you should try lower sitting cage or a zip tie, like what Steven did.
My solution was to put a side loader bottle cage. That allows for small bottles to fit.

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29er / Re: Charles M06 XL build
« on: May 12, 2017, 10:44:10 PM »
By the way, while ordering I asked Melody about the bottle cage, and she said not to worry. So I tried to fit a bottle in and the results are in the pictures.
This are my smallest bottles. So no chance using this with a top loader bottle cage. They do work on a side loader but only the small bottles.
I think the bottle cage holes should have been made lower. Sometimes this kinda of failure makes me wonder if they actually ridden any of this frames before started selling.

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29er / Re: Charles M06 XL build
« on: May 12, 2017, 02:30:21 PM »
Quote from: charlesrg
By the way, I'm running 2.35 tires on it without rub, I think that's as wide as it would take.

Are the Ikon 2.35 true to size?

Quote from: charlesrg
My IP036 was running on 100mm. The travel on this is the same. The bike is lower to the ground but travel is same. The big difference here is climbing and reduced the rear wheel play.


I'm running X-King 2.4 on my 036 (they are true to size) and sometimes when I corner really hard the rear end flex so much that the tire rub on the chainstays. So if the rear of the M06 is stiffer, it's good news.

I think the 036 has larger tire clearance than M06. I will measure take the measurements to ensure it's accurate. I was running 2.35 on the 036 as well with no rub. Keep in mind wheel width also plays a big role on how wide the tire will set.

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29er / Re: Charles M06 XL build
« on: May 11, 2017, 09:26:07 PM »
The 036 is often speced at 110-120mm of rear travel. Do you feel any difference with the 100mm of the M06 or it seems to have the same amount of travel as the 036?
My IP036 was running on 100mm. The travel on this is the same. The bike is lower to the ground but travel is same. The big difference here is climbing and reduced the rear wheel play.

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29er / Re: Charles M06 XL build
« on: May 11, 2017, 09:22:03 PM »
I tried 100 forks at first then went to 120m fox 34s  seems to really suit the frame for me ......loving his bike so far.

I'm looking at this frame as well and was going to build it with a 120mm fork. Do you feel it makes the bike feel more enduro like or is it just as quick and nimble as a xc bike? I would like the bike to still be quick and nimble but also want to take advantage of a little more travel and slightly slacker geometry. Yes, i want my cake and eat it too  ;D
Depending how hardcore you want to go on Enduro. Usually enduro guys 120mm or more. I would put this bike more on the XC category.
I'm going to race XC on it, may try an enduro however I don't think it's a bike to win enduro races. At least in my area the enduros are very rocky and have some downhill sections that 100mm won't really do at the speed required to win.
By the way, I'm running 2.35 tires on it without rub, I think that's as wide as it would take.

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29er / Re: Charles M06 XL build
« on: May 10, 2017, 08:58:11 AM »
When comparing to the 057 the bike just climbs better even with the added weight. 24 vs 21
Questions please let me know.

So, i have an 057 as well and it climbs very well. You feel the M06 climbs even better? That would mean the pedaling efficiency is really good! Do you feel any pedal bob under load?

When you compare efficiency would you sacrifice a bit on bobbing versus grip?  The m06 has a very short chainstay, shorter than the 057. When climbing almost all your weight gets applied on the rear for you to move forward and before slipping the suspension moves. Specially on roots and rocks. The 057 might climb well in the road but on the trail I'm with the M06.
The 057 gives too much tire  slippage due to longer chainstay and lack of suspension.

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29er / Re: Charles M06 XL build
« on: May 10, 2017, 08:50:53 AM »
The more you ride the better you'll like it. I also have the rear spacing out a few mm and at first had a bit of ghost shifting but i tracked it down to the full cable where it goes under the the BB at first i had zip ties around the cables to stop rubbing on the BB.
I replaced inner and outer cable and ran a piece of plastic tubing over the cable in a arch where it passes from the main frame to rear so it can move freely with the suspension and it now has crisp gear change.
I tried 100 forks at first then went to 120m fox 34s  seems to really suit the frame for me ......loving his bike so far.

Thank you for the suggestion on the cables. I left a good slack down there. Do you have a picture of  your BB cabling ? Curious about the plastic piece.
The bike really does climb well. Better than my 057 hardtail. And when compared to the 036 the slack in the front is a plus to avoid going over the bars.

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29er / Re: Klaster_1's Dengfu M06 build
« on: May 10, 2017, 08:45:02 AM »
Looks really good! I'm really curious how this frame compares to the 036.
Definitely an upgrade in terms of linkage. The geometry is very different, two different beasts.

When you finish your build and feel like you know the bike, I'd be really interested in a thread comparing them. Not only the geometry, but ride quality too!

I already finished the build. Already tried it. I've 057 and a M06 now. I took the parts of the 036 to build the m06. I posted the picture already.

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29er / Re: How to post a picture
« on: May 09, 2017, 08:31:03 PM »
please encourage people to upload the pictures here. It usually happens that those picture hosting sites go offline and the forum ends up with broken links. Photobucket is an example one.

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29er / Re: Klaster_1's Dengfu M06 build
« on: May 09, 2017, 08:22:41 PM »
Looks really good! I'm really curious how this frame compares to the 036.
Definitely an upgrade in terms of linkage. The geometry is very different, two different beasts.

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29er / Re: Charles M06 XL build
« on: May 09, 2017, 04:34:30 PM »
I've done a test ride and I can compare it to ip036 and IP057.
Geometry makes it more nimble and better to climb. The BB drop is low and I still need to get used to it. In my first turn I already scrapped the crank.
When comparing to the 057 the bike just climbs better even with the added weight. 24 vs 21
Now comparing to the 036 I feel the bike is much lower and aggressive. At the same time with a slacker head angle I feel it would be harder to go over the bars.
The hardware and finish details of this frame is also much better. The pivots are better and the bike has no play up/down. The rear sideways play is also much less than the 036. Feels much more solid.
Definitely an upgrade from the 036.
Only issues so far is the rear axle space is out of spec and I feel I got a wrong batch. This is causing me ghost shifts when I apply high torque on pedals.

Questions please let me know.

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29er / Re: WCB-M-062 reviews
« on: May 08, 2017, 10:29:13 PM »
I'm pissed that my bb30 xx1 crankset won't fit my new frame that's bb92.
Long spindle version can be fit to BB92 using RF cinch 30mm BB92 bottom bracket, albeit with some elbow grease. I did that today, but no idea how reliable this setup will turn out. Had to grind down plastic washers a bit, that's the only way to preload bearings and eliminate lateral play. Wheels MFG and RWC seem to offer similar products. I've been running same cranks on a 73mm english threaded bb and Rotor BSA30 cups, thanks to Chinertown too.

I could not fit my XX1 BB30, the spindle was too short. About 90mm while the BB itself was 92. See the picture. Even without the washers it was going to be too small.


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