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Chinese Carbon Road Bikes => Cyclocross Frames, Wheels & Components => Topic started by: Zipper85 on December 10, 2020, 04:57:06 AM

Title: Velobuild Gf01
Post by: Zipper85 on December 10, 2020, 04:57:06 AM
http://www.velobuildmall.com/products/2019-velobuild-carbon-fiber-gravel-bike-frame-new-version-12x100-fork-available-1

hello, how does the gf01 look to you? I like it especially for the price, it only holds me back the fact that it is bb386 and I could not mount 30mm cranks
Title: Re: Velobuild Gf01
Post by: carbonazza on December 10, 2020, 08:15:13 AM
...it only holds me back the fact that it is bb386 and I could not mount 30mm cranks

BB386 is especially designed for 30mm spindles.
And depending on the BB you put in the frame can as well accept DUB 29mm and Shimano 24mm.
All with good bearing sizes inside.
Title: Re: Velobuild Gf01
Post by: Zipper85 on December 10, 2020, 09:58:57 AM
thanks, how loom has anyone had experiences?
Title: Re: Velobuild Gf01
Post by: hazzer19 on May 17, 2021, 11:07:14 AM
thanks, how loom has anyone had experiences?

I bought a GF01 frame second hand locally and built it up with 650B tires and recently switched over to 700. I've been really happy with the frame so far, no complaints.
Title: Re: Velobuild Gf01
Post by: Cnasta on October 26, 2021, 05:37:57 AM
BB386 is especially designed for 30mm spindles.
And depending on the BB you put in the frame can as well accept DUB 29mm and Shimano 24mm.
All with good bearing sizes inside.

@carbonazza, I'm looking for a cheap gravelframe because my Sensa crossbike (that I used for gravel and commuting in winter) died. If money was no object, I'd buy a new 2021/2022 gravelframel with cables hidden and a di/GRX group. But, money is an object and I have parts from my current bike that are fine.

Quesion, is the GF-01 my best option? Does it work with standard Sram cx1 groupset? Do I miss somethin?

Since my current bike is QR, I'd need new wheel. Since I'm both on road and in forest, I need 2 sets :( Plan is 1 set with communting/bikepack tires. Somethink like 32mm Continental 4seasons, and 1 set with graveltires (running 33mm challenge limos now, but guess that is more of a cross tire).

2 Questions:
What would be a cheap and ok wheelset for this frame?
Does it make sense not to go for 650 wheels? If im going to go on harsh terrain I would take MTB anyway (IP-256sl, 1x10)

Kind regards,

Cnasta
Title: Re: Velobuild Gf01
Post by: carbonazza on October 26, 2021, 05:31:39 PM
...Quesion, is the GF-01 my best option? Does it work with standard Sram cx1 groupset?...
Velobuild has good reviews, but since you ask my opinion  ;)
Personally I prefer to work with Carbonda for the great quality and service and after sale.

A new SRAM crank will be DUB, and will be compatible with any BB386-DUB BB.
WMFG are great.

Since my current bike is QR, I'd need new wheel. Since I'm both on road and in forest, I need 2 sets :( Plan is 1 set with communting/bikepack tires. Somethink like 32mm Continental 4seasons, and 1 set with graveltires (running 33mm challenge limos now, but guess that is more of a cross tire).
Except if you want high performance on asphalt, maybe one wheelset is enough with either Continental Terra speed 38 or 40mm or even better Maxxis Rambler 40mm are both great polyvalent tires except on deep mud.

...What would be a cheap and ok wheelset for this frame?
Does it make sense not to go for 650 wheels? If im going to go on harsh terrain I would take MTB anyway (IP-256sl, 1x10)
700c wheels roll much better, even on rocks & roots.
Look for the WR series of rims at lightbicycle.com (http://lightbicycle.com), 32mm wide external.
My preferred are the WR38  8)
If on budget, with bitex hubs, pilar aero spokes but with brass nipples.
Title: Re: Velobuild Gf01
Post by: Cnasta on October 27, 2021, 08:39:14 AM
Velobuild has good reviews, but since you ask my opinion  ;)
Personally I prefer to work with Carbonda for the great quality and service and after sale.

A new SRAM crank will be DUB, and will be compatible with any BB386-DUB BB.
WMFG are great.
Except if you want high performance on asphalt, maybe one wheelset is enough with either Continental Terra speed 38 or 40mm or even better Maxxis Rambler 40mm are both great polyvalent tires except on deep mud.
700c wheels roll much better, even on rocks & roots.
Look for the WR series of rims at lightbicycle.com (http://lightbicycle.com), 32mm wide external.
My preferred are the WR38  8)
If on budget, with bitex hubs, pilar aero spokes but with brass nipples.

Thnx for your reply.

I'd be fine with carbonda as well, but I don't see prices on their website (I know I can ask for a price). I'm afraid it won't be as cheap as velobuild.

Tire choice is difficult. My commute is 2x 35km and a low rolling tire is nice. The 40mm options you gave look to be really offroadisch. Difficult. Could start with a gravel wheelset and keep my 2nd racingbike for commuting (paired with 28mm I think I'd be fine in winter as well). For bikepack I could always change to a faster tire, depending on the road I choose.

The wheels you mention are quite expensive (but nice, I admin). If it wouldnt be a el cheapo, than I'd buy those. But on a tight budget I think I have to look for cheaper wheels like these:
http://www.velobuildmall.com/products/carbon-fiber-road-wheelset-disc-brake-carbon-deep-38mm-width-23-25mm-200

What do you think a cheap Carbonda will will cost?

Title: Re: Velobuild Gf01
Post by: jannmayer on October 27, 2021, 08:44:55 AM
I paid $495 for my CFR707 frame (external routing), plus $15 for the headset and $26 for the axles. Shipping (slow option) to the US was $160.
Title: Re: Velobuild Gf01
Post by: adriaanm on October 27, 2021, 10:11:31 AM
I also got the CFR707 (see that thread). Love it!
Title: Re: Velobuild Gf01
Post by: Cth on October 27, 2021, 04:14:07 PM
I'm also thinking about the Velobuild frames but leaning toward the GF02 instead of GF01.  Newer frame, a tad slacker head angle (means more fork trail too), fully concealed cables, and although $100 more, it comes with integral bars and stem, which seem pretty cool IMO, even if the cables are a pain to install.  The Carbonda CFR707 seem popular on this forum and probably a good frame, but it appears to be heavier
Title: Re: Velobuild Gf01
Post by: Cnasta on October 29, 2021, 04:18:07 AM
I'm also thinking about the Velobuild frames but leaning toward the GF02 instead of GF01.  Newer frame, a tad slacker head angle (means more fork trail too), fully concealed cables, and although $100 more, it comes with integral bars and stem, which seem pretty cool IMO, even if the cables are a pain to install.  The Carbonda CFR707 seem popular on this forum and probably a good frame, but it appears to be heavier

Hmm, if you put it like that (with costs of bar and stem included), the gf02 might be the better option :)
Title: Re: Velobuild Gf01
Post by: xcbarny on October 30, 2021, 01:05:53 AM
Anyone know what tire size the gf01 takes?
Title: Re: Velobuild Gf01
Post by: Snacks on October 30, 2021, 08:26:24 AM
Anyone know what tire size the gf01 takes?

I fit 45c wtb raddlers on 700c wheels on my gf01
Title: Re: Velobuild Gf01
Post by: xcbarny on October 31, 2021, 05:40:11 PM
How do you like it?

It's top of my list now, but I'm a bit concerned about the short headtube. Might be too low at the front end.
Possibly thinking of going from a small to a medium with a shorter stem.
Title: Re: Velobuild Gf01
Post by: hazzer19 on November 01, 2021, 10:14:43 AM
I fit 45c wtb raddlers on 700c wheels on my gf01

Good to know you can go this wide on the GF01. Was wondering what I could push it to. Thanks!
Title: Re: Velobuild Gf01
Post by: Snacks on November 01, 2021, 10:43:39 AM
How do you like it?

It's top of my list now, but I'm a bit concerned about the short headtube. Might be too low at the front end.
Possibly thinking of going from a small to a medium with a shorter stem.

I thought the front end might be low too so I kept a few spacers under the stem. At 5'10" with a 30.5in inseam I'm riding a size S with a 90mm stem and it fits me perfectly.  Although I do like my bikes on the smaller side.

I actually wanted the gf02 but they couldn't get it out to me in time for training.  The slacker hta and non aero seatpost so i could fit a dropper were the only reasons I wanted that over what I have . Otherwise the gf01 has been a great bike and a joy to ride
Title: Re: Velobuild Gf01
Post by: Nerve29 on November 14, 2021, 03:00:19 AM


Since my current bike is QR, I'd need new wheel. Since I'm both on road and in forest, I need 2 sets :( Plan is 1 set with communting/bikepack tires. Somethink like 32mm Continental 4seasons, and 1 set with graveltires (running 33mm challenge limos now, but guess that is more of a cross tire).
Probably too late, but the GF01 is an open mould that is available from several brands and some sell them with quick release dropouts for frame and fork. For example haidelibikes (tideace) or spcylce do.

https://m.de.aliexpress.com/item/1005002502652782.html?trace=wwwdetail2mobilesitedetail&spm=a2g0n.store_m_allProduct.allProducts_8426924.1005002502652782

Maybe velobuild can provide the frame with qr dropouts aswell. For the frame, you can even find them sold individually on aliexpress. Of course, for the frame it is either or...

I have that frame though i bought from tideace. I didn't know of velobuild back then or else i would've bought from them. The frame itself is a copy of the Open UP,  and like the Open it is very road bike like. It's great but has one major flaw: no 0-setback seatpost. The Open was designed for 0-setback back, so with the same seat angle but 25mm many people won't find the perfect seat position. If you got long femurs you'll be fine. If your femurs are normal or small for your size... You might have a problem.