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Chinese Carbon MTB => 29er => Topic started by: spcycle on May 03, 2023, 01:13:34 AM
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Dear All:
Thanks for the patience of the production,and supporting of our frame and company.
Now SP-M861 sample have been done, We are doing ISO 4210 standard testing.
Attached some real frame picture for reference.
SP-M861 is a 120mm XC race machine that looks as good as it rides. Modern geometry and clever suspension. Size M L XL can install 2 bottle cages
For this mold some inforamtion listed:
Material: Toray T1000 Carbon Fiber
Size: S/M/L/XL
Bottom Bracket : BSA 73mm Thread
Headset Size: Top 1-1/2", Down 1-1/2"
Brake: compatible with Post mount and Flat mount disc brake, 160mm rotor
Seatpost Size: 31.6mm
Cable: All Internal Cable Routing, We can provide external cable options if required by customers.
Weight : 1800g+/-60g
Rear hanger: 148x12mm, UDH hanger
Rear Shock: 190x45mm, front 8x50mm, rear 8x22mm
Travel: Frame 120mm, Fork 120mm
Max Tire size: 29er*2.4
The size of the sample frame is M. The weight of matt black frame is about 1600g. When mass manufacturing, we may increase the weight to 1700g. And size M would be the first bulk production.
The pre-sale has ended. Now we have started accepting orders., any need, feel free to contact us.
Customized color accepted.
info@lc2000.com.cn
Many thanks.
David
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Hello
Abjustable headset or headset cups would be nice: 66 and 67 degrees. With straight 1.5 there is room, I think. Some kind of flipchip would be another option. I have SP-M05, which has worked fine so far.
Aku
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Hi, do you already know what the release price will be? Thank you.
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wishes, since they are asked))
1. suspension leverage 2.7-2, that is, progressive leverage.
2. antisquat 100% with 32 chainring
3. two liter bottles of water
4. cable routing through the frame.
5. quality aluminum parts and overall quality
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it looks promising, but :
1-put the cables out of the headset;
2-put the cables out of the headset;
3-put the cables out of the headset;
4-put the cables out of the headset;
5-put the cables out of the headset;
;D
6-build a reinforcing arch thru the seat stays;
7-66°HA, 75,5°STA;
8-high quality bearings, bolt, axles.
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I expect a lot of people would want something like this as a down-country/short travel trail bike because of the TT and reach numbers. Which means most would like to see the seat tube lengths shrink by about 30mm for every size in your geo chart for fitting longer dropper posts and lower standover. You might run out of room for a second bottle cage, but you can move it under the downtube.
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It reminds me a lot of the Orbea Oiz
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I expect a lot of people would want something like this as a down-country/short travel trail bike because of the TT and reach numbers. Which means most would like to see the seat tube lengths shrink by about 30mm for every size in your geo chart for fitting longer dropper posts and lower standover. You might run out of room for a second bottle cage, but you can move it under the downtube.
So you want a short travel trail bike not a lightweight xc race bike?
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Hi, do you already know what the release price will be? Thank you.
Hi Friend
We have now started pre-sales. The pre-sale price is 699USD. Some countries offer free shipping.
We will release it publicly in June. Retail price 798USD.
best regards
spcycle
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So you want a short travel trail bike not a lightweight xc race bike?
I honestly don't want either. The fact is this bike frame has 120mm of travel which already pushes it out of the "XC race" category. spcycle can cater to a far larger market if they had one frame that would satisfy both the XC and light trail duty requirements. All I am suggesting is shrinking the seat tube can make the design far more flexible and capable.
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I honestly don't want either. The fact is this bike frame has 120mm of travel which already pushes it out of the "XC race" category. spcycle can cater to a far larger market if they had one frame that would satisfy both the XC and light trail duty requirements. All I am suggesting is shrinking the seat tube can make the design far more flexible and capable.
I agree with you, the seat tube should be about 30mm shorter (or even shorter, ideally).
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Hi Friend
We have now started pre-sales. The pre-sale price is 699USD. Some countries offer free shipping.
We will release it publicly in June. Retail price 798USD.
best regards
spcycle
Do you offer free shipping to the UK, US or Canada?
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Hi Friend
We have now started pre-sales. The pre-sale price is 699USD. Some countries offer free shipping.
We will release it publicly in June. Retail price 798USD.
best regards
spcycle
it means that there will be no changes to the frame, sadness
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Do you offer free shipping to the UK, US or Canada?
Yes, we can offer free shipping to the UK, US, Canada. thank you
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it means that there will be no changes to the frame, sadness
Yes, we have completed 3D printing and mold development. So the geometric parameters will not change. thank you
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I honestly don't want either. The fact is this bike frame has 120mm of travel which already pushes it out of the "XC race" category. spcycle can cater to a far larger market if they had one frame that would satisfy both the XC and light trail duty requirements. All I am suggesting is shrinking the seat tube can make the design far more flexible and capable.
I agree with you, the seat tube should be about 30mm shorter (or even shorter, ideally).
and the BB drop is too big AFAIAK
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Suggestion:
Option for external cable routing, then use upper headset bearing for offset bearing to slacken Head Tube Angle.
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For me, I just want:
-Tight tolerances;
-Good bearings;
-Good hardware (bolts, axles, dropout, etc);
If possible:
-Cable routing NOT through headset.
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Yes, we can offer free shipping to the UK, US, Canada. thank you
And to Italy? Thanks.
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And to Italy? Thanks.
Free shipping countries and regions include
EU, US, UK, Canada, Mexico, Japan, South Korea, Singapore, Malaysia, Indonesia, Thailand, Philippines, Vietnam, Australia, New Zealand
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Yes, we have completed 3D printing and mold development. So the geometric parameters will not change. thank you
Didn't you literally ask for suggestions on the mold in the original post? ::)
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Didn't you literally ask for suggestions on the mold in the original post? ::)
He said:
By the way, we also accpet the customized mold production and painting job work.
If anyone have the advice or idea for this mold, feel free to reflect to us.
So, they accept custom molds production (I bet not cheap) and advices for this mold (already done), not changing the mold.
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He said:
So, they accept custom molds production (I bet not cheap) and advices for this mold (already done), not changing the mold.
I think it would benefit spcycle greatly if they took a look at how the market is trending before committing to creating their tooling. It seems to me that this frame isn't what a lot of people want. There's always going to be somebody who will buy this, but if I saw this on a catalog page I'd take a pass on it.
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This is an Orbea Oiz 2023 clone. I know a lot of people who would like to have one. Check GMBN yt videos, they are raving about it.
I will try to sell one (or more) of my bikes to get one of this. For me, the geo its almost perfect for XCM and XCO.
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I think it would benefit spcycle greatly if they took a look at how the market is trending before committing to creating their tooling. It seems to me that this frame isn't what a lot of people want. There's always going to be somebody who will buy this, but if I saw this on a catalog page I'd take a pass on it.
What's not right? It looks pretty good to me.
Cables through the headset: yes, it's a bit of a pain when you're building it, but worth it for the clean lines
People are talking about the seat tube length: it's shorter than a Genius, Epic Evo and Anthem Advanced. 10mm longer than a Top Fuel
Chainstays are shorter than all of the above. That's a good thing in my mind
Wheelbase is in the shorter end of modern 'normal'. So it won't feel like too much of a tank
BB drop is the same as a Spark
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What's not right? It looks pretty good to me.
Cables through the headset: yes, it's a bit of a pain when you're building it, but worth it for the clean lines
People are talking about the seat tube length: it's shorter than a Genius, Epic Evo and Anthem Advanced. 10mm longer than a Top Fuel
Chainstays are shorter than all of the above. That's a good thing in my mind
Wheelbase is in the shorter end of modern 'normal'. So it won't feel like too much of a tank
BB drop is the same as a Spark
It's "right" if your point of reference is this Orbea bike that was mentioned and a bunch of other random bike models. The problem is the seat tube is really too long for this length of reach and ETT. Maybe Orbea had a reason to do this, but spcycle could clearly have thought it through better and shrunk the seat tubes down for at least the small and medium sizes where standover for 29" frames is nearly always an issue for shorter riders.
If spcycle's only goal was just to clone what was already on the market, then that's their choice. But I would hope to think they are more creative than that.
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Biggest issue I have with it is the headset cable routing. I won't build a bike with that garbage.
Head angle could be a degree more slack, but since it has headset routing I am out either way.
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I am in the same boat with the headset cable routing. i just built a LC 918 and 914 and both have the cables in the headset. i am seriously going to look at just drilling a hole in the frame for the cables. headset cable routing is literally the dumbest thing the bike industry has come up with and they have had some duesys. as soon as i see that from now on it is a hard stop.
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If the buyer needs external cable routing, we can drill holes in the frame.
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That is good to know! :)
Could you also make offset headset bearings to get 66 degrees head angle with 120mm fork?
Aku
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I was not crazy about headset routing. I now have a 2023 Spark with it. It's not actually that bad in practice. More work than standard, sure, but really not that bad. Adding a dropper post took me 30 minute. I took the whole headset system apart to adjust the headset angle (which is possible on the spark frame I rotating the bearing cups 180°) and I had the thing back together in under an hour. I think a bunch of people love to make a big deal out of things.
I have a 9 year old hardtail with probably 12,000 miles on it. I've replaced the shifter housing exactly once, the brake lines never, and the headset bearings never. So I don't really see needing to be in and out of this headset all that often. And with the cables tucked, the bike looks super clean.
So I won't disparage people for not liking internal routing, but I also think it's not as bad as everybody made it out to be.
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I think the big thing is what does cables through the headset gain you? The answer is nothing of value and only more headache. There are a fair amount of negatives and the only positive is it is "cleaner". Except all those cables still loop out to your levers and shifters and remotes anyway. Now the just coalesce at the stem instead of 4" lower in the frame.
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One story is a trendy-brandy bikes with clean look and absolutely another when you have the same features in chinabike. For instance: sharp edges which will cut little by little you hydroline inside your fancy headset. Btw, any insulation from the mud and water flying around in nasty weather?
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If they would hurry up and design wireless brakes, shocks, and droppers, then we wouldn't have any need for those unsightly cables wherever they have to be routed! 8)
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I think the big thing is what does cables through the headset gain you? The answer is nothing of value and only more headache. There are a fair amount of negatives and the only positive is it is "cleaner". Except all those cables still loop out to your levers and shifters and remotes anyway. Now the just coalesce at the stem instead of 4" lower in the frame.
Perhaps. I just really don't see it as that much extra headache for me. It was a marginally longer process to take things apart. And I do that basically never (possibly because my use case is hot/dry Arizona where maintenance just isn't needed on items in that area).
What negatives have you identified with your headset routing?
I value the marginally cleaner cockpit I suppose. And as cockpit controls start to be designed with this in mind (see the new SRAM brakes where the brake line exits the lever basically on the bar) tucking cables out of the was will be even easier. Couple that with AXS shifting and droppers and soon wireless lockouts, and a single brake cable is all there will be to think about.
For what it's worth, when I disassembled everything, I removed the brake lines from the levers and shortened them. I didn't even need to do a full rebleed of the brakes. Simply do the simple shimano lever/cup dirty bleed and everything was perfect.
I guess I'm curious as to what everyone is doing with their bikes that they need to be changing out that upper bearing so frequently. Because that upper bearing is really the only thing that is even marginally more difficult to change out than routing cables through the sides of the frame.
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Headset routing is a marketing play to make maintenance of traditional cable pull systems so annoying people just break down and throw away money on wireless systems lol. Headset routing sucks, especially on mountain bikes.
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How is it more annoying? It's the same thing. Pull the cable, fish a new one. Or if a housing is needed, pull the old housing an fish a new one. It's no different than other internal routing systems. I have it on my 2023 Scott and I ran a dropper post housing/cable without disassembly of the headset. Same as internal routing through the frame. What are people talking about??
How many people here are simply regurgitating what the read on the internet vs actually working with one of these systems first-hand?
One of the most legitimate complaints I've heard is that having the opening on top of the upper bearing may lead to more dirt/water intrusion into the upper bearing. I'll buy into that.
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Assembling Carbonda 909 with headset routing and it works far better then classic internal or even external due to less force required to turn and no more cables banging around near handlebar. It requires only bit more work due to tighter cable length tolerance. I should have tried to order frame without headtube holes.
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Any reputation information about Spyce?
Thanks
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How is it more annoying? It's the same thing. Pull the cable, fish a new one. Or if a housing is needed, pull the old housing an fish a new one. It's no different than other internal routing systems. I have it on my 2023 Scott and I ran a dropper post housing/cable without disassembly of the headset. Same as internal routing through the frame. What are people talking about??
How many people here are simply regurgitating what the read on the internet vs actually working with one of these systems first-hand?
One of the most legitimate complaints I've heard is that having the opening on top of the upper bearing may lead to more dirt/water intrusion into the upper bearing. I'll buy into that.
The vb-099 I have is headset routed with internal handlebar/stem routing. Looks cool, no cables hanging out anywhere on the front end. Huge pain to work on using a full mechanical groupset, but at least there's no cables.
Headset routing on a mtb still has cables in front. The cables just go into the headset a few inches up instead of into the frame. Which makes maintenance more annoying. You can't replace your headset bearing without also buying a new olive for your rear brake. Plus disconnecting everything else. Really not that common of a service, but it's still more work for marginal to no gains. Things break on mountain bikes fairly frequently and personally I'd rather not have to deal with more annoying things when fixing stuff. Headset routing for mtbs just doesn't have any positives imo.
That said it'll still probably become more popular like internally routed cables simply because it's cheaper for manufactures.
Guerilla gravity and Deviate have cool solutions for cable routing that make life easier.
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Dear All
Thank you for your suggestion.
For SP-M861 frame. We will manufacture two versions.
Version 1, all internal cables, cables passing through the headset.
Version 2, half internal cable, cable does not pass through the headset.
best regards
spcycle
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when do you produce and think to deliver the frames, last time i ordered a frame at China it took 5 months
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Any reputation information about Spyce?
Thanks
I currently have an ongoing case with my SP-M05 frame. will report.
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I currently have an ongoing case with my SP-M05 frame. will report.
Nice move))
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What about the cable routing for the remote of the rear shock?
Standard or similar to Orbea Oiz?
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It seems the frame is up for sale on their website, but no choice on cable routing as SPCycle mentioned here. Also, website pictures are same as here, so have to wonder how long it will take the frame to ship.
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when do you produce and think to deliver the frames, last time i ordered a frame at China it took 5 months
Size M will be available in June. Other sizes will be available in July.
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It seems the frame is up for sale on their website, but no choice on cable routing as SPCycle mentioned here. Also, website pictures are same as here, so have to wonder how long it will take the frame to ship.
We have made changes. M861 will be compatible with external cables and fully hidden internal cables. Size M will be available in June. Other sizes will be available in July. We will receive the samples by the end of May.
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I'm looking at the geo for the orbea oiz m11 axs 2023 and the geo for xl is exactlly the same, between the 2 frames, even the geo charts are the same, first time I'm excited about a clone. Specially since they have a straight seat tube. I'm not a fan of the seat tubes with a bend in them. I've been looking for a new XC 120 mm frame...
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I currently have an ongoing case with my SP-M05 frame. will report.
Can you tell me what's going on with it? I had a similar issue, the chainstay near the brake posts on the rear cracked when testing the braking down the street from my home. It was very frustrating that this happened but they took care of the issue.
I really hope there are no similar issues with this frame. I am looking for a 120mm travel XC bike.
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Can you tell me what's going on with it? I had a similar issue, the chainstay near the brake posts on the rear cracked when testing the braking down the street from my home. It was very frustrating that this happened but they took care of the issue.
I really hope there are no similar issues with this frame. I am looking for a 120mm travel XC bike.
I'm glad to hear that they took care of your problem. I haven't an answer yet. My frame squeaks terribly at the bottom bracket and there are cracks around it.
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Dear All:
Anyone looking for the Super light 29er full suspension carbon frame?
Our new mold SP-M861 being done, the sample would be available May.
SP-M861 is a 120mm XC race machine that looks as good as it rides. Modern geometry and clever suspension. Size M L XL can install 2 bottle cages
Can the small fit a second water bottle if it's a smaller 600ml bottle?
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I'm glad to hear that they took care of your problem. I haven't an answer yet. My frame squeaks terribly at the bottom bracket and there are cracks around it.
If I were you I would shoot them a message on Aliexpress.
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If I were you I would shoot them a message on Aliexpress.
dunno, I bought the frame directly from their website...
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dunno, I bought the frame directly from their website...
Doesn’t matter, it’s their product, they’ll answer. I’ve never been really ignored through Aliexpress
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Doesn’t matter, it’s their product, they’ll answer. I’ve never been really ignored through Aliexpress
I now have an answer, I have to take pictures of the frame and pay the postage, then I will get a replacement
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daifanshi why do you say a 120mm bike is out of XC race category? Nino Schurter top MTB XC racer and most of the pro's are riding 115-120 mm bikes in XC. Its the perfect amount of travel and geometry for todays ultra techy XC courses.
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Have any of you ordered one of these yet? If so what made you choose it over a Carbonda 936 or 909; Ican S3 or Lightcarbon 918? Were there other options you considered?
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Thanks for the patience of the production,and supporting of our frame and company.
Now SP-M861 sample have been done, We are doing ISO 4210 standard testing.
Attached some real frame picture for reference.
The size of the sample frame is M. The weight of matt black frame is about 1600g. When mass manufacturing, we may increase the weight to 1700g. And size M would be the first bulk production.
The pre-sale has ended. Now we have started accepting orders., any need, feel free to contact us.
Customized color accepted.
info@lc2000.com.cn
Many thanks.
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Thanks for the patience of the production,and supporting of our frame and company.
Now SP-M861 sample have been done, We are doing ISO 4210 standard testing.
Attached some real frame picture for reference.
The size of the sample frame is M. The weight of matt black frame is about 1600g. When mass manufacturing, we may increase the weight to 1700g. And size M would be the first bulk production.
The pre-sale has ended. Now we have started accepting orders., any need, feel free to contact us.
Customized color accepted.
info@lc2000.com.cn
Many thanks.
Can you tell me more about the bolts, axles, bearings, bushings?
these are the weakest points of Chinese frames, so these things require special attention
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Same with drainage holes.
Are there drainage holes in both front and rear triangle?
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Will it still utilize the flat mount to post mount adapter in the rear?
Looks unsightly.
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info@lc2000.com.cn
Many thanks.
David
@spcycle
Friend there are two seller on Aliexpress selling as Sp-cycle. Do you sell on Aliexpress? Your warranty is valid buying from there?
https://pt.aliexpress.com/store/116622?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.2.3682653fDhX0lm
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/816505?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.50.64f0caa4h8wJDq
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What does the headset hardware look like for the full internal setup? Seeing as this is an orbea clone are you using the same type of headset?
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hi guys, where could i find a shock absorber for this frame with 2 position remote control?
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Are all sizes available now for order?
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@spcycle
Friend there are two seller on Aliexpress selling as Sp-cycle. Do you sell on Aliexpress? Your warranty is valid buying from there?
https://pt.aliexpress.com/store/116622?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.2.3682653fDhX0lm
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/816505?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.50.64f0caa4h8wJDq
I personally paid slightly more for a different SP Cycle frame, and bought direct from the sp-cycle internet store. It was worth 3% or so different to deal 100% directly with the manufacturer.
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Same with drainage holes.
Are there drainage holes in both front and rear triangle?
Only the front triangle retains the drainage holes.
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Will it still utilize the flat mount to post mount adapter in the rear?
Looks unsightly.
Now more and more mountain bike frames use flat mount brake design. Our frame reserves enough space. Compatible with flat mount and post mount brakes.
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@spcycle
Friend there are two seller on Aliexpress selling as Sp-cycle. Do you sell on Aliexpress? Your warranty is valid buying from there?
https://pt.aliexpress.com/store/116622?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.2.3682653fDhX0lm
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/816505?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.50.64f0caa4h8wJDq
Size M is now available. After about 10 days, we will release it on AliExpress. The next available size is L.
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What does the headset hardware look like for the full internal setup? Seeing as this is an orbea clone are you using the same type of headset?
We have our own headset and dust cap for internal cables. But we didn't develop flip chips. So the head tube angle cannot be adjusted.
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Size M is now available. After about 10 days, we will release it on AliExpress. The next available size is L.
You have real pictures of the Frame?
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You have real pictures of the Frame?
This is size M
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Interested. When will we see the non headset internal routing version?
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We have our own headset and dust cap for internal cables. But we didn't develop flip chips. So the head tube angle cannot be adjusted.
Do you have pictures of the caps? Wondering how the routing is handled.
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Also wondering if you have an channel for the rear shock lockout cable? Thanks!
IE here it is on the oiz:
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I pre-ordered this frame but ended up cancelling due to delays. I would recommend anyone considering it check stock before ordering.
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I pre-ordered this frame but ended up cancelling due to delays. I would recommend anyone considering it check stock before ordering.
What size did you order? They told me L is coming by October but M is available, it’s also on Ali
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What size did you order? They told me L is coming by October but M is available, it’s also on Ali
I pre-ordered L. Was originally supposed to be ready July. Repeated delays followed by an 'expected' Sept manufacture date, which was missed so I'd be cautious about the October date too. Like I said, I would recommend ensuring they have stock before ordering.
In the end, I got frustrated with the repeated delays so cancelled. There are plenty of other options at the moment! (the 'usual suspects' plus Workswell, Miracle, Winowsports, Yishun, and even the new Lexon Flyer).
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I pre-ordered L. Was originally supposed to be ready July. Repeated delays followed by an 'expected' (the 'usual suspects' plus Workswell, Miracle, Winowsports, Yishun, and even the new Lexon Flyer).
That’s true but at some point you need to select amongst the most affordable and reliable in post sales so Carbonda, light carbon and spcycle remains the only viable options for me
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No need to go into all the detail but based on my experience I would not recommend SP Cycle. Previous orders with Airwolf and Carbonda were much smoother and have resulted in awesome builds :)
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spcycle sent me this on ali when I asked about their headset routing:
Appears to be the typical holes in the top cap for routing.
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Did someone actually ordered and built one of these? How did it go?
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Did someone actually ordered and built one of these? How did it go?
I was planning on doing that, but now that I am still waiting for a guarantee frame for SP05 from mid-june, my wish has probably gone.
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I was planning on doing that, but now that I am still waiting for a guarantee frame for SP05 from mid-june, my wish has probably gone.
What did happen to your SP05 and how they behave when you asked for support?
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What did happen to your SP05 and how they behave when you asked for support?
After four months of moderate riding, the bottom bracket started to squeak. I examined it, there were cracks around it.
SP's initial response was that I need to send the frame back for inspection and repair at my expense.
Then they were more cooperative, I sent a video and some pictures and they were willing to send me a replacement frame if I paid the shipping costs. I did it and am still waiting for the frame. I email them every two weeks, sometimes they respond with apologies and explanations as to why they still haven't sent me the frame.
A week ago I got a tracking number, but it can't be tracked. We'll see
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Good morning. I ordered this frame in size M directly from the site. After an initial exchange of emails regarding address, size and more, I would now be waiting for a shipping tracking code which is taking a bit.... we'll see and hope for the best... Do you think it will be possible to open the steering angle by one degree with this frame? What headset do you recommend? Thank you
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After four months of moderate riding, the bottom bracket started to squeak. I examined it, there were cracks around it.
SP's initial response was that I need to send the frame back for inspection and repair at my expense.
Then they were more cooperative, I sent a video and some pictures and they were willing to send me a replacement frame if I paid the shipping costs. I did it and am still waiting for the frame. I email them every two weeks, sometimes they respond with apologies and explanations as to why they still haven't sent me the frame.
A week ago I got a tracking number, but it can't be tracked. We'll see
So, after half a year of waiting, I got the replacement frame. Weighs 1120 grams with seat post clamp, axle and derailleur hanger, which is 200 grams heavier than spesified. I am happy to get a frame, but kind of disappointed because of the weight.
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See some people have ordered, but nobody is reporting... Does anyone actually have one yet?
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when size S will be available?
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See some people have ordered, but nobody is reporting... Does anyone actually have one yet?
Arrived this afternoon
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Did you get yours painted or unpainted?
Im also curious like you about the headset can you tell us what it comes with? I see that the specs show 1.5inch straight headtube but does it come with bearings for a tapered fork? looks like an integrated style headset.
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.............waiting for the fork
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.............waiting for the fork
what weight?
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HI Spcycle
I'm in New Zealand and just trying to understand your warranty procedures, If we have a frame issue do you require whole frame to be shipped back to China, price form NZ to freight the frame would actually void warranty, thanks
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what weight?
1640gr
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Hi. Nice looking frameset. Seems identical to the latest Orbea Oiz, even the geometry is the same.
To what frame size does that 1640gr belong to? Excluding shock, I assume.
Enjoy your custom build!
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HI Spcycle
I'm in New Zealand and just trying to understand your warranty procedures, If we have a frame issue do you require whole frame to be shipped back to China, price form NZ to freight the frame would actually void warranty, thanks
Hi Friend
have a nice day
Under normal use, we will sell the frame with a 2-year warranty. Buyers do not need to return damaged frames, we will send new frames directly.
best regards
spcycle
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1640gr
Size M, matt black, The bare frame is about 1590g. The weight including metal accessories is 1650g. (rear axle, seatpost clamp, bottle cage hole screws)
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when size S will be available?
Currently Sizes M and L are available. Size XL is also already in the mold. Available in about 10 days.
Mold fabrication has been completed for Size S. Expected to be available in early January.
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spcycle can you show the linkage suspension? in particular the leverage ratio
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spcycle or anyone else. Im curious how the headset works. I see that its a straight headtube but does the headset that comes with the frame work with standard tapered steering tubes on forks? I assume that the larger upper bearing uses some kind of bushing with a hole in it to allow the cables/brake lines to fit down the head tube?
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we proceed
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we proceed
Rear shock is on bushings or bearings, if bearings where did you get 8x50mm bearing kit?
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Rear shock is on bushings or bearings, if bearings where did you get 8x50mm bearing kit?
The rear shock is mounted on bushings.
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https://www.mtb-news.de/forum/t/das-winterrad-ersatzteillagerprojekt-spcycle-sp-m861.982700/#post-19166225
whom it may concern
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Curious why you chose to not use remote lockouts? Do you think you would never use them? I currently do not have them but sometimes I think it would be good
Anyway thanks for the details it really helps me.
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On my recent FS build, I though I really wanted fork and shock lockouts. The latest generation FOX factory float shock and fork don't offer lockout options. I was worried. Then after riding the bike, I discovered that this generation of high end forks and shocks have almost no bob or motion while climbing or riding on asphalt. I was very impressed, and changed my perspective on lockouts.
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Arno,
you show that you used a wide crankset for a 55mm chainline, do you think that was needed or do you think you could build with a standard boost chainline of 52mm? how much chainring clearance do you have and what size chainring?
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Arno,
you show that you used a wide crankset for a 55mm chainline, do you think that was needed or do you think you could build with a standard boost chainline of 52mm? how much chainring clearance do you have and what size chainring?
It is not my build up.
You have to ask Schnitzelfreund (Christian).
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I reached out to SP cycle and they say its a 55mm chainline frame. Thats why it uses wide cranks.
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Now sizes S M L XL are in stock. We process the shipment after the Chinese New Year holiday.
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Has anyone else gotten one of these? Hoping to order an XL soon, but unsure of what shock hardware i will need. never bought a chiner frame before.
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not even 6 months
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not even 6 months
Bad experience
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I would say so! What is the response so far?
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for now all is silent
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for now all is silent
Cazzooo Fede! :-\ :-\
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Cazzooo Fede! :-\ :-\
Currently, M861 has sold more than 300pcs. This is the first breaking case. If I guessed correctly, this should be a broken rocker arm causing damage to the rear triangle. We take this issue very seriously. For safety and durability reasons. We are manufacturing aluminum alloy rocker arm for M861.
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for now all is silent
spcycle will fulfill its warranty obligations. We will send you the aluminum swingarm and carbon rear triangle for free.
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For now I thank you. However, in November the frame arrived with a dropout with M1.5 thread and axle with M1 thread and I never received the correct components even though they were promised to me. Now I'm anxiously awaiting the spare parts but I'm still very saddened. On Thursday and Sunday I will not be able to participate in amateur competitions for which I have paid to register. I found myself with my ass on the ground and to get home I had to walk and push the bike lifting it for 17km.... If I think that I could have replaced the balance wheel with the new aluminum model and not have had any problems I get even more angry! For clarity, I must say that the frame has never had any accidents or falls. The pin broke while pedaling uphill. It is also true that the frame has traveled on many downhill mountain paths.
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spcycle will fulfill its warranty obligations. We will send you the aluminum swingarm and carbon rear triangle for free.
It would be great that you fulfill your warranty obligations to the SP-M048 frame you sold me with wrong color, wrong cable guiding into frame and the critical defect of a defective bottom bracket thread. T47 is not something you can repair anywhere but in the factory. Then you force me to try to install the bottom bracket and after it was not possible you went silence.