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Chinese Carbon Road Bikes => Cyclocross Frames, Wheels & Components => Topic started by: planet_sammy on June 27, 2023, 06:41:54 AM
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Has anyone any experience with this frameset?
That would actually be just the right thing for me to get to work quickly in wind and weather... ::)
https://www.yishunbike.com/product/g095dspeed-gravel/
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i think is the same frame that Guerciotti use for its Escape model.
(https://www.guerciotti.it/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/1.jpg)
https://www.guerciotti.it/bici/gravel/escape/ (https://www.guerciotti.it/bici/gravel/escape/)
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i think is the same frame that Guerciotti use for its Escape model.
(https://www.guerciotti.it/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/1.jpg)
https://www.guerciotti.it/bici/gravel/escape/ (https://www.guerciotti.it/bici/gravel/escape/)
Yes, you're right, looks awesome with paintwork and fully assembled !!!
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I read Berlusconi.
Very nice bike indeed.
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I am glad they made it look different. Many frames I see all look like VB GF002 to me.
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Frame looks great. Aero features with gravel properties. Have you reached out to Yishun to check if they sell it direct to consumer and price?
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Frame looks great. Aero features with gravel properties. Have you reached out to Yishun to check if they sell it direct to consumer and price?
Yesterday I asked Yishunbike about shipping (to Germany) and the cost of the frameset.
But I fear that there is an agreement with "Guerciotti" that this frame will not be sold to private consumers within the EU...
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I asked them about these frames in April. They said the frames were brand new and have a MOQ of 50 pieces for 2023.
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This looks really nice. Would be perfect with mounts for toptube bag.
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This looks really nice. Would be perfect with mounts for toptube bag.
Yes, that would also be a point that could be improved.
I think that could probably be feasible as a "special request".
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i think is the same frame that Guerciotti use for its Escape model.
(https://www.guerciotti.it/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/1.jpg)
https://www.guerciotti.it/bici/gravel/escape/ (https://www.guerciotti.it/bici/gravel/escape/)
I've been eyeing the G095D for a while now because of the stated 50c tire clearance but according to Guerciotti it only acccepts up to 42c which seems a pitty or the models are not exactly the same. If anyone decides to order one, it would be awesome if they could check the tire clearance.
Yishunbike also sells a more all road version which has smaller tire clearance and without bike rack mounts. https://www.yishunbike.com/product/cx095dall-road/.
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Yishun doesn't do individual sales do they? This all-road is looking fantastic. Checked Lightcarbon website and they seem to have similar but not same mold. Hopefully they bring CX095D in their fold soon.
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Yishun doesn't do individual sales do they? This all-road is looking fantastic. Checked Lightcarbon website and they seem to have similar but not same mold. Hopefully they bring CX095D in their fold soon.
I think they do. I've asked about buying individual pieces of their frames several times and they've always responded with a price+shipping.
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I think they do. I've asked about buying individual pieces of their frames several times and they've always responded with a price+shipping.
Good to know. Dropped them a mail stat!
Speaking of geo, the seat tube is 560mm for size 56 which is exactly what I am looking for. I think it will make the rider to be on top of the bike rather than 'in the bike' like Airwolf 066 all-road with shorter 530mm tube. I hope this mold is picked up by others. 38c is more than enough clearance for me. I will be down for this or VB CX002.
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Yes, that would also be a point that could be improved.
I think that could probably be feasible as a "special request".
Looks like they can do that for me. But bad news is that they don't do custom paint for < 3 frames. Don't think I really need 3 :D
If there are any Dutch ppl, wanting to order and dig a red/white or some cracy paintscheme, send me a message :)
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Looks like they can do that for me. But bad news is that they don't do custom paint for < 3 frames. Don't think I really need 3 :D
If there are any Dutch ppl, wanting to order and dig a red/white or some cracy paintscheme, send me a message :)
Unfortunately no message from Yishun so far, I made the request via the input window on the website, possibly an error?
What conditions did you receive, price including shipping?
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Unfortunately no message from Yishun so far, I made the request via the input window on the website, possibly an error?
What conditions did you receive, price including shipping?
Incl. tax and shipping the quote was 777 dollar. But no paint. Might have 1 other person interested in ordering allready. Need at least 1 other (red paint, maybe white 'made up' brand name). Interested?
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Incl. tax and shipping the quote was 777 dollar. But no paint. Might have 1 other person interested in ordering allready. Need at least 1 other (red paint, maybe white 'made up' brand name). Interested?
Yes, but I have to sell my old cyclocross first, after that there would be room in my garage again...
I'll get in touch if it works out spontaneously!
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Good to know, i'd have bet the frame would cost more, like €1,000 incl. shipping
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Anyone out there gone down this rabbithole yet? :)
I done some enqueries and i'm tempted but a referencebuild would have been nice.
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I'm still working on it. I probably will order, but having some problems with explaining the paintjob I want. Can't really find an example to show what I mean.
Opting for Nardo Gray (grey Audi color), with gloss black decals. But I also want some black splatter (like mud / drop) on the lower half of the frame. A bit like the bike of DNR SHREDD (the green/pink one). They asked me for a design, but my design skills stop at word art and paint :D
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How did you get them to sell you a single frame?
For me, after 1 month, they still have not responded.
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How did you get them to sell you a single frame?
For me, after 1 month, they still have not responded.
Ask nicely ;) No, I have no idea why. I will also buy a gravel wheelset of them, maybe that helps.
Any design guru's that can help with a design (logo, easy paintscheme)?
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I was ready to order, but they ran out of size 58 :-/
Was contemplating ordering the CX version instead (38mm tyre clearance) but the lack fendermounts is a dealbreaker for me.
I Guess I'll have to wait for 58 to be back in stock or find another frameset that tick my requirement boxes.
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I was ready to order, but they ran out of size 58 :-/
Was contemplating ordering the CX version instead (38mm tyre clearance) but the lack fendermounts is a dealbreaker for me.
I Guess I'll have to wait for 58 to be back in stock or find another frameset that tick my requirement boxes.
Maybe ask as a "special request" whether the brackets are also available for the CX model?
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Hi All
I registered/signed up as I stumbled across this frame (which looks fantastic btw) and this thread is one of the only mentions on the internet/google search results.
I was in the process of ordering another frame from Lightcarbon when I found the G095D, so asked them about it and their relationship to Yishunbike, since Yishun seems to list some of the same frames. This was the reply from Jim Lee (who looks like he might post here too from another thread I saw):
"LC and YS, The two were a company 12 years ago, now is also brother company,
YS mainly focus on wheelsets, LC on frame set,YS often get the frame from us, so you can know some frames in their web are as same as ours.
but the G095D(Speed Gravel) we have no make it, I don't know this frame, also if only one set we can not get it for you from YS,
I think this frame now is only on design, you can try to ask it"
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Just emailed Yishun around purchasing - will see if I have any luck getting a response and if they want a minimum order quantity.
I'm not sure if YS are the actual manufacturer of the frame - be interesting to see if it's available anywhere else or from anyone else - haven't been able to find anything yet though.
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I bought the frame from Yinshun Germany. They only had one left in my size available. And I have to do the paint job myself, that only goes through Yinshun Asia and with at least 3 frames.
Has cost the frame with shipping, 890€
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I bought the frame from Yinshun Germany. They only had one left in my size available.
I think it's a sales strategy lie ;) i already read on this forum they try to hurry people to buy and i had the same speech too when dealing with them.
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I bought the frame from Yinshun Germany. They only had one left in my size available. And I have to do the paint job myself, that only goes through Yinshun Asia and with at least 3 frames.
Has cost the frame with shipping, 890€
That's awesome!! Hope you like it I'm curious about your experiences once you've ridden it. (and pictures of your paint job ;D)
Would it be possible to post the measured front and rear spacing (like a caliper measurement at the narrowest part) when you have the frame? I love the frame especially because of the claimed 50mm tire clearance but I've heard some open-mould manufacturers overstate the tire clearance. Thanks a lot in advance!!
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I think it's a sales strategy lie ;) i already read on this forum they try to hurry people to buy and i had the same speech too when dealing with them.
This can be But I do not care I find the frame so nice that I was sure to buy it. I also asked for the bank details even before they wrote to me that only two are still available.
Furthermore, I wanted to buy a handlebar and that was out of stock.
I guess that they otherwise only sell large quantities and a few frames also sell to end customers.
For this thesis also speaks that my first mails from another account were not answered.
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Just emailed Yishun around purchasing - will see if I have any luck getting a response and if they want a minimum order quantity.
I'm not sure if YS are the actual manufacturer of the frame - be interesting to see if it's available anywhere else or from anyone else - haven't been able to find anything yet though.
I got a response from them and they were willing to sell me a frame and ship to NZ. They are out of stock of 58cm though - they've indicated it's a couple of months wait for more to be available. Unless I find something I like more in the meantime (unlikely I think given current research) I'll get one once they've re-stocked.
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@slowSpeedGravel With your Username you want to buy a Speed Gravel? That is so paradox :D
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@slowSpeedGravel With your Username you want to buy a Speed Gravel? That is so paradox :D
Yes, that's exactly why I need one! ;D
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Those of you who could buy just one frame, which email did you contact?
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Info@yishunbike.com
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I want to buy this one but they are not responding :-\
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I want to buy this one but they are not responding :-\
Try this one: kitty.jiang@yishunbike.com
I think you get a response!
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Ordered one, will be shipped next friday :)
UD Gloss.
Kitty is answering fast, and is very service minded. Looking forward to get the frame delivered.
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Interested to hear what the tire clearance is like for anyone that receives one. Per previous posters i'm guessing its actually 42mm (with ~6mm each side of that which is the industry standard gap for quoting clearance). So maybe good for up to a 45c tire in practice.
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Anyone experience building up this frame and could share some pictures? I'm very interested!
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Damn this is one good looking frame!
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Interested to hear what the tire clearance is like for anyone that receives one. Per previous posters i'm guessing its actually 42mm (with ~6mm each side of that which is the industry standard gap for quoting clearance). So maybe good for up to a 45c tire in practice.
Not fully on topic, but I can share some clearance info on the Yishun CX095D which is the 'all road' alternative of the G095D. This means it should support op to 38c tires (instead of 50c) according to Yishun product info. Looks like the main difference between both models is the size of the rear triangle. Given the recently update geometry specs, the all road version has 10mm shorter chain stay and wheelbase compared to the speed gravel. Front fork looks the same.
I do not have the frame at hand, but from detailed data I received I can conclude for the CX095D:
Rear clearance, for 38mm tire:
- towards chain stays: 8 mm (both sides)
- towards seat tube: 19 mm
Front clearance, for 38mm tire:
- towards chain stays: 8 mm (both sides)
- towards seat tube: 18 mm
I would say rear clearance towards seat tube could be quite a bit bigger for the G095D given the additional chain stay length of 10mm. Not sure for the side (towards chain stay) clearance. Also if both frames would share the same fork, 50c will not fit I would say.
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Not fully on topic, but I can share some clearance info on the Yishun CX095D which is the 'all road' alternative of the G095D. This means it should support op to 38c tires (instead of 50c) according to Yishun product info. Looks like the main difference between both models is the size of the rear triangle. Given the recently update geometry specs, the all road version has 10mm shorter chain stay and wheelbase compared to the speed gravel. Front fork looks the same.
I do not have the frame at hand, but from detailed data I received I can conclude for the CX095D:
Rear clearance, for 38mm tire:
- towards chain stays: 8 mm (both sides)
- towards seat tube: 19 mm
Front clearance, for 38mm tire:
- towards chain stays: 8 mm (both sides)
- towards seat tube: 18 mm
I would say rear clearance towards seat tube could be quite a bit bigger for the G095D given the additional chain stay length of 10mm. Not sure for the side (towards chain stay) clearance. Also if both frames would share the same fork, 50c will not fit I would say.
Thanks. Looks like they do use different forks (the CX fork is straight at the bottom, the G frame has a curve there that moves the axle back a cm or two). The extra 10mm chainstay length maybe just clearance for mudguards as the G frame has a mounting point for guards between the rear chainstays/on the bottom of the down tube which would take up about that with a guard installed.
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Info@yishunbike.com
HMPF - How´s it going with the build?
Very curious on the result and your opinions on the frame.
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It is same frame as this. But black UD Glossy No logos.
I'm pretty sure that is the Yishun CX095D. The visual difference between the CX095D and G095D is that they have different forks and the G095D has threaded inserts at the rear triangle for mounting a rack. there are some other differences (like supposedly tire clearance) but they are not visually distinguishable.
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You are right. Anyway 50mm tyres is No problems. This is 45 and margin is big.
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You are right. Anyway 50mm tyres is No problems. This is 45 and margin is big.
What rim and what tire though?
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Stans + Riddler the margin is 1cm + on front fork even more.
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This frame has disappeared from the Yishun website recently. Anyone know why?
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I'd paid a deposit on one (they were out of stock in size 58, but had more coming- ETA was about now/late November).
I'll ask them why it's disappeared from the site.
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I'd paid a deposit on one (they were out of stock in size 58, but had more coming- ETA was about now/late November).
I'll ask them why it's disappeared from the site.
I also bought a G095D and visited their site to check the technical specification before ordering parts. Noticed it was removed from their site.
Did you get an answer from Yishun? Curious if it's discontinued.. The CX095 is also removed.
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Maybe some company bought the rights for it? It seems to happend for some frames.
The frame did look great, but didnt fit me...
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I also bought a G095D and visited their site to check the technical specification before ordering parts. Noticed it was removed from their site.
Did you get an answer from Yishun? Curious if it's discontinued.. The CX095 is also removed.
Sorry forgot to post an update - they replied straight away. No impact on any orders that are already in, but they said that they've "changed our sales strategy for the G095 frame and only sold it to wholesale customers, so it has been removed from our website."
So it does sound like someone wants the rights exclusively, or they already had the rights and now want to ensure it's only them using the frames.
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Also was having a browse of the guerciotti escape page to see if anything had changed there and noticed they now quote rear clearance for the 'g' model as 47mm (used to be 42mm): "Rear chassis: In the two versions G and S the wagon has some modifications to accommodate tires of different widths. Up to 47 mm for the G version and 38 mm for the S version, the more racing version of the two."
Which sounds like it's more in line with the frame measured in the previous posts...
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It's sad that Yishun has changed strategy with their Speed Gravel frame, but maybe the R1018-D endurance bike is an alternative?
It comes with 700x32C...does anyone know a supplier who already sells this frame like Guerciotti?
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HMPF - How´s it going with the build?
Very curious on the result and your opinions on the frame.
I have built the frame and am extremely happy with it.
It's currently in the winter edition with mudguards and lights.
What exactly are you interested in, then I can go into it?
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Just overall curious of your findings. Glad you like it.
I also bought one. Waiting for parts and tools to build it up.
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Communication:
First of all, I would like to emphasize the very good contact with Kitty. She replies quickly and gave me very good advice when I wanted to know something about the structure. She also asked me several times how I was getting on with the frame and whether I needed anything else. I then ordered 2 more spacers, a spare derailleur hanger and an adapter so that I can attach saddles with 7 x 9 rails.
Design:
I love the design of the bike. The wide down tube with a partial D-shape. I particularly like the overhang towards the rear wheel.
The paint job is just a trial, I'll redo it in the summer.
Assembly:
The assembly worked very well. The brake lines with silencers were very easy to push through. The axle mounts are made to measure and fit perfectly.
There are good bolt-on options for the mudguards and I was able to fit them without any tinkering. However, I think the distance between the top and the tire is too big. You could use another part on the bridge of the rear triangle to bring the mudguard closer to the tire. (And yes, the mudguards destroy the steepness of the blade-shaped seat tube)
There are only problems with the cockpit: The spacer tower twists even though the headset is adjusted and the stem is tightened. I have not yet found a solution for this.
The attachment for the seat post works very well, but the adhesive has come off the lock nut, which is not so good.
Driving behavior:
The bike is very stable, especially at high speeds from 30 km/h.
There is a small toe overlap (frame size 54/shoe size 43), but this can be eliminated when the mudguards are off.
For me, the geometry is sporty and more geared towards aerodynamics than comfort.
Equipment:
I am currently riding with the following setup:
Shifter: Red and Force
- 2 x 12 with 50/34 K-Light crank and 10-33 Force cassette
- Force rear derailleur with Gabaruk cage (not worth it for the cassette, I'll put it back)
- Rival front derailleur (has to be adjusted very carefully)
- The crank will be swapped for a Force with Sram chainrings. It's not working perfectly yet.
- Elitewheels Edge 50mm wheelset (very light and very cheap 1320 grams at 522€)
- Continental Grand Prix Urban 35mm (work perfectly for me in fall and winter when commuting)
- Toseek handlebars
- Red brake body, Dura Ace rotors (works perfectly)
- SKS Bluemels mudguards: The best, lightest and cheapest, simply trouble-free
Weight/cost:
The bike weighs 8.2Kg complete and cost 1900€. The mudguards weigh 500 grams and come off in summer.
The frame cost 844€ with all accessories (seatpost, thru axle, headset). The adapter for 7x9 rails cost 18€ and the additional spacers 5€.
pros:
- special design
- wide range of equipment options (luggage rack/mudguards/front light on the fork)
- aerodynamic
- good contact and service
cons:
- Spacer tower twists
- Data sheet no longer online (but available by email)
- unclear whether you get a frame or not
neutral:
- pressfit bearing
- proprietary seatpost
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Brief update:
I have replaced a few parts:
- Force crank
- Flattop chains
- Elitaone carbon saddle
- Gabaruk cage for the original Force cage (with Kogel derailleur pulleys)
Now the drivetrain works perfectly. It is quiet and shifts very smoothly.
The only problem I still have is that the cover for the fork shaft is twisted. Does anyone have any ideas on how to change this?
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Now I'm even more upset they dont sell it anymore :(
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The only problem I still have is that the cover for the fork shaft is twisted. Does anyone have any ideas on how to change this?
There's usually some guiding pins and corresponding holes in the headset parts, i would release the handlebar and headset bolts separate slightly, check that all allignment pins and holes intact and carfully reassemble making sure the allignment is correct when applying preassure on the headset.
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Really disappointed you can't order one of these frames.
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I bought a CX095D (the all-road/cyclo version) just before they stopped selling the frame. They offered me paint & decal options and it took some time to decide on this... but last week a package arrived.
As the frame is not (and probably will not be) available I do not start a build thread but briefly report out here. Starting with some first pictures.
Color is white metallic, with some subtle dark grey decals, both in gloss finish.
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I bought a CX095D (the all-road/cyclo version) just before they stopped selling the frame. They offered me paint & decal options and it took some time to decide on this... but last week a package arrived.
As the frame is not (and probably will not be) available I do not start a build thread but briefly report out here. Starting with some first pictures.
Color is white metallic, with some subtle dark grey decals, both in gloss finish.
You may as well do a build thread, you never know if they might sell them in future. The more information the better.
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Does anybody have information om maximum chain ring size if running a 1x-setup?