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Re: Spcycle 2023 New Travel 120mm Super Light 29er full suspension frame
Quote from: Vipassana on May 06, 2023, 11:32:58 PM
How is it more annoying? It's the same thing.  Pull the cable, fish a new one.  Or if a housing is needed, pull the old housing an fish a new one. It's no different than other internal routing systems.  I have it on my 2023 Scott and I ran a dropper post housing/cable without disassembly of the headset. Same as internal routing through the frame.  What are people talking about??

How many people here are simply regurgitating what the read on the internet vs actually working with one of these systems first-hand?

One of the most legitimate complaints I've heard is that having the opening on top of the upper bearing may lead to more dirt/water intrusion into the upper bearing. I'll buy into that.

The vb-099 I have is headset routed with internal handlebar/stem routing. Looks cool, no cables hanging out anywhere on the front end. Huge pain to work on using a full mechanical groupset, but at least there's no cables.

Headset routing on a mtb still has cables in front. The cables just go into the headset a few inches up instead of into the frame. Which makes maintenance more annoying. You can't replace your headset bearing without also buying a new olive for your rear brake. Plus disconnecting everything else. Really not that common of a service, but it's still more work for marginal to no gains. Things break on mountain bikes fairly frequently and personally I'd rather not have to deal with more annoying things when fixing stuff. Headset routing for mtbs just doesn't have any positives imo.

That said it'll still probably become more popular like internally routed cables simply because it's cheaper for manufactures.

Guerilla gravity and Deviate have cool solutions for cable routing that make life easier.
May 07, 2023, 05:40:22 PM 		1
Re: Unreadable Topic: "VeloBuild Headset Play Issue" I recently received the new velobuild c ring and it is a big improvement! With the original c ring + microspacers or the kocevelo ring + microspacers I still had a tiny bit of front-back play. Had to push forward on the back of the steerer to notice it. With the new ring there is no more play at all! I still had to use some microspacers with the kocevelo bar combo spacers but maybe with the velobuild bar combo it isn't needed now. The new version is much taller and has a larger opening. Here's an album comparing the original c ring and the new version:
https://imgur.com/a/rupJ6Cd
June 29, 2023, 06:58:18 PM 		1
Re: Recommendations for integrated handlebar? I have that kocevelo bar/stem, in 380x80mm. Have about 500km on it so far on my velobuild 099. The inner steerer surface was painted and wouldn't fit on the velobuild steerer tube. So I had to dremel/sand down the inside a tiny bit so it would fit nicely. Not sure if they're all like that or it was just a bad combination of generous tolerances from vb and kocevelo. It came with a variety of plastic spacers and headset pieces. Was a little tricky for cable routing but every one of these combo bars is. Doesn't seem flexy but I'm not putting down insane watts and only weight 130lbs.

For 100$ I'm super happy with it. Here's a couple pictures:

https://imgur.com/a/B7Iibc9
August 01, 2023, 01:57:53 PM 		1
Re: LCFS948 - a new enduro from Light Carbon It does look similar the Scor 4060. Which was on my list when I was looking to replace my 947. Looks cool.
September 17, 2023, 07:40:30 PM 		1
Re: Interesting Aliexpress finds! - good deals, interesting stuff, new products etc! Too bad the aliexpress one breaks. I've had it my cart for a while to try out. The original is over $100 shipped to Canada lol.
October 03, 2023, 09:12:11 AM 		1