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Title: Suggestions on a; 165mm, 30-46t Cranksets with BSA Bracket
Post by: Crash217 on November 17, 2022, 01:51:54 PM
I got tired of waiting on L-Twoo or Sensah to release their hydraulic groupset and ordered a take off Shimano 105 11 speed groupset today for a steal to mount on my gravel bike (Kona Rove). 

Unfortunately, The crank arms on this groupset are 175mm and I prefer 165mm.   So I'll be selling off the crankset (Crankset: FSA Gossamer 386 (BB included), 175m crank length, 48/32T BCD, 110mm if anyone is interested)  When it arrives and looking for a BSA BB, 165mm 30-46t crankset.  My gravel bike is currently running an old square spindle set up and want to update that bit.

Anyone come across any good looking options on AliExpress lately?

Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: Suggestions on a; 165mm, 30-46t Cranksets with BSA Bracket
Post by: acedeuce802 on November 17, 2022, 01:58:12 PM
I've got a ZRACE 165mm crank/BSA BB, Sigeyi PM with 110mm BCD (or they come with a 3-bolt to 110bcd adapter), and 46/30t chainrings from ebay (has to be special kind that has threaded portion on inner chainring, to fit a 30t with 110bcd.  So far around 650 miles with no issues.
Title: Re: Suggestions on a; 165mm, 30-46t Cranksets with BSA Bracket
Post by: coffeebreak on November 17, 2022, 02:49:44 PM
I got tired of waiting on L-Twoo or Sensah to release their hydraulic groupset and ordered a take off Shimano 105 11 speed groupset today for a steal.     


Good. The used 105 will run rings around Sensah or LTwoo groupset anyhow.
Title: Re: Suggestions on a; 165mm, 30-46t Cranksets with BSA Bracket
Post by: Crash217 on November 17, 2022, 02:52:29 PM
Good. The used 105 will run rings around Sensah or LTwoo groupset anyhow.

One big selling point on it, my decade old Trek roadbike hasn't had a single hiccup in a decade using 5600 series 105.


I've got a ZRACE 165mm crank/BSA BB, Sigeyi PM with 110mm BCD (or they come with a 3-bolt to 110bcd adapter), and 46/30t chainrings from ebay (has to be special kind that has threaded portion on inner chainring, to fit a 30t with 110bcd.  So far around 650 miles with no issues.

Good to hear on the ZRace.  I'll check out what's available. 

I've been staring at this crankset for awhile; Senicx PR3  https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804615021106.html?spm=a2g0o.cart.0.0.311638da22FS3Q&mp=1&gatewayAdapt=glo2usa&_randl_shipto=US

Would be nice if it were easy to find some of this stuff on Amazon.  Cheap cranksets seem nearly impossible to find anywhere outside of AliEx. 
Title: Re: Suggestions on a; 165mm, 30-46t Cranksets with BSA Bracket
Post by: 00Garza on November 17, 2022, 03:58:22 PM
There's also a Dub version. Not sure if that works with your set up. Some prefer the beefier spindle.
Can anyone confirm if that 24mm spindle is aluminum or steel?

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804555867240.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.726844dajJ6APX&algo_pvid=9fdd0ae4-04d7-4087-a99c-fe3f6c98c374&algo_exp_id=9fdd0ae4-04d7-4087-a99c-fe3f6c98c374-4&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22sku_id%22%3A%2212000030308680675%22%7D&pdp_npi=2%40dis%21USD%21190.0%2195.0%21%21%21%21%21%40210318c216687221119752371e9d27%2112000030308680675%21sea&curPageLogUid=7etN3wnPfraC
Title: Re: Suggestions on a; 165mm, 30-46t Cranksets with BSA Bracket
Post by: jonathanf2 on November 17, 2022, 04:09:57 PM
There's also a Dub version. Not sure if that works with your set up. Some prefer the beefier spindle.
Can anyone confirm if that 24mm spindle is aluminum or steel?

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804555867240.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.726844dajJ6APX&algo_pvid=9fdd0ae4-04d7-4087-a99c-fe3f6c98c374&algo_exp_id=9fdd0ae4-04d7-4087-a99c-fe3f6c98c374-4&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22sku_id%22%3A%2212000030308680675%22%7D&pdp_npi=2%40dis%21USD%21190.0%2195.0%21%21%21%21%21%40210318c216687221119752371e9d27%2112000030308680675%21sea&curPageLogUid=7etN3wnPfraC

According to the description it's alloy:
» Spindel :Ø29mm Alloy Spindle

Title: Re: Suggestions on a; 165mm, 30-46t Cranksets with BSA Bracket
Post by: Crash217 on November 17, 2022, 04:10:40 PM
Good find!  I don’t have any real preference on 24 or 30 spindles. No idea if I’d ever even notice the difference.  My mtn bike has 30 and my road bike has a 24.

Since my gravel bike (old Kona Rove) has a square bottom bracket in it right now the spindle type isn’t much of a concern, just needs to use a BSA threaded bb that fits.

Title: Re: Suggestions on a; 165mm, 30-46t Cranksets with BSA Bracket
Post by: 00Garza on November 17, 2022, 04:49:32 PM
According to the description it's alloy:
» Spindel :Ø29mm Alloy Spindle

I was asking about the 24mm one the OP mentioned. Its says 24mm but does not say what material in the description.
Title: Re: Suggestions on a; 165mm, 30-46t Cranksets with BSA Bracket
Post by: 00Garza on November 17, 2022, 04:53:54 PM
Good find!  I don’t have any real preference on 24 or 30 spindles. No idea if I’d ever even notice the difference.  My mtn bike has 30 and my road bike has a 24.

Shimano 24mm spindle is steel. The 24mm alloy spindles have had some failures. Might not be a concern if you're a light rider or don't do massive sprint/climb efforts.
Title: Re: Suggestions on a; 165mm, 30-46t Cranksets with BSA Bracket
Post by: Crash217 on November 17, 2022, 08:16:19 PM
I’m a whopping 125lbs and they only thing I’m good at is out climbing or riding farther than my buddies.  Speed/sprinting is NOT my strong suit.
Title: Re: Suggestions on a; 165mm, 30-46t Cranksets with BSA Bracket
Post by: kbike on November 18, 2022, 07:57:21 AM
46x30 chainrings that fit shimano 5800-9100 crank arms are sold by bikingreen on eBay. I have these chainrings. The seller was awesome and got it to me fast for a gravel race. They use bolts that are smaller so that a 30 ring will fit the crank arms.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/113800283451

Stone sells 46-32 for shimano 5800-9100 on aliexpress. These use the standard bolts to hold the rings to the crank arms and why it can only do a 32 ring.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004350300130.html

Senicx sell 46x30 gxp chainrings that fit most crank arms sold on aliexpress.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004629507517.html

As for crankarms I've had no issues using the aluminum spindles cranks. My weight varies from 130-140. I have also been using the lighter hollow crank arms.  I've used these in one gravel race.

Most of my gravel rides are done on my shimano cranks.  Just peace of mind when you're In The middle of nowhere and beating the crap out of the bike weekly.
Title: Re: Suggestions on a; 165mm, 30-46t Cranksets with BSA Bracket
Post by: Crash217 on December 22, 2022, 03:37:23 PM
Ordered the Senicx PR2 today along with an Oinirii saddle from the Onirii AliExpress shop plus another few things I wanted.   Fingers crossed that they all show up quickly and are good quality.

Crankset
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804455459935.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.14.21ef1802FQc7To&gatewayAdapt=glo2usa&_randl_shipto=US

Seat
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804388261703.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.15.21ef1802FQc7To&gatewayAdapt=glo2usa&_randl_shipto=US

Camelback
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256802359798999.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.5.21ef1802FQc7To&gatewayAdapt=glo2usa&_randl_shipto=US

Bar bag
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804165898194.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.10.21ef1802FQc7To&gatewayAdapt=glo2usa&_randl_shipto=US

Title: Re: Suggestions on a; 165mm, 30-46t Cranksets with BSA Bracket
Post by: Crash217 on January 11, 2023, 10:02:18 PM
Got my AliExpress order last week.

Very fast shipping from China!

The SENICX PR2 crank seems really nice and light.  Installed zero hassle and spins nice and true.

Other items I ordered are nice as well.

Have put a few hours in on the trainer stand so far,  will get out for 70-80 mile ride this weekend.  I’m expecting that all is well with the Senicx crank though.
Title: Re: Suggestions on a; 165mm, 30-46t Cranksets with BSA Bracket
Post by: Crash217 on February 28, 2023, 02:06:01 PM
*UPDATE*

I have a little over 700 miles on the Senicx PR2, 165mm, 46/30 crankset right now.  The bike gets ridden for 3/4 - 1 hour sessions per week on the trainer stand and another 40-100 mile ride each weekend. 

Its been on the road, the bike paths, gravel trails, dirt roads, and mountain bike single track.    I've climbed and descended some very nasty grades with it and even jumped the bike a few times.

Everything is going smoothly, nothing has wiggled loose nor shown any real wear.  No creaking, no notable flex while riding.

I give the thumbs up.  Its pretty dang light and has been shockingly strong so far.  Granted a weigh a whopping 120lbs so even with intentionally beating on the bike i'm not putting much force into things compared to someone of more substantial size.

The crankset is paired to an 11speed hydraulic Shimano 105 drivetrain that was nearly new when the bike (2016 Kona Rova Aluminum) was built in early January.

It'll get another 100 miles or so put on it before I put it through The MidSouth100 on March 10.

Also,  It seems the 3 bolt SRAM chainrings will fit onto this crankset, so I've been searching for chainring mounted powermeters for it.  Just haven't come across any powermeter spiders that will accept a 46/30 setup, in case anyone has a source or knows the special search terms to find them.
Title: Re: Suggestions on a; 165mm, 30-46t Cranksets with BSA Bracket
Post by: jcr on July 22, 2023, 12:39:15 AM

Also,  It seems the 3 bolt SRAM chainrings will fit onto this crankset, so I've been searching for chainring mounted powermeters for it.  Just haven't come across any powermeter spiders that will accept a 46/30 setup, in case anyone has a source or knows the special search terms to find them.

Just wondering if you had any luck find a PM that will work with the 46-30 setup? I was looking at getting the PR2 with 46-30 but was also wondering if there are any power meter for it....
Title: Re: Suggestions on a; 165mm, 30-46t Cranksets with BSA Bracket
Post by: frnchy on July 22, 2023, 12:30:25 PM
I’m using a 110bcd Sigeyi power meter with Bikingreen 46/30 chainrings on my gravel bike. Works shockingly well!
Title: Re: Suggestions on a; 165mm, 30-46t Cranksets with BSA Bracket
Post by: jcr on July 22, 2023, 01:20:48 PM
doesn't look like there are  many options for 2 piece chainring in the 46/30 or 46/33 range... The Bikingreen rings can almost buy another crank
Title: Re: Suggestions on a; 165mm, 30-46t Cranksets with BSA Bracket
Post by: s3si1u on July 23, 2023, 01:14:57 PM
I had a quarq power meter crankset for a while with GXP spindle. I ran it with 46/30 Specialized rings. May have been 46/36 lol. I think any 165mm crank with 110bcd will fit what you need, you'll just need to source aftermarket chainrings.
Title: Re: Suggestions on a; 165mm, 30-46t Cranksets with BSA Bracket
Post by: Crash217 on July 24, 2023, 11:03:10 AM
I’m using a 110bcd Sigeyi power meter with Bikingreen 46/30 chainrings on my gravel bike. Works shockingly well!

I've had my eye on this exact setup or maybe just swapping the entire crankset out for something with built in powermeters in the crank arms since the pricing isn't far off.  Glad to hear someone with Sigeyi/bikingreen setup is happy with its performance.
Title: Re: Suggestions on a; 165mm, 30-46t Cranksets with BSA Bracket
Post by: eeney on July 26, 2023, 12:32:10 AM
I've gone down two different routes for a 165 crankset.


No complaints with either.  Xcadey is quite new but power readings are accurate next to my Powrlink pedals.  Have done many miles on the Driveline without any issues.
Title: Re: Suggestions on a; 165mm, 30-46t Cranksets with BSA Bracket
Post by: wandulus on July 27, 2023, 02:52:12 AM

Driveline do some shorter cranks, I went with an adjustable length crank from Driveline because I wanted to try 160mm as well, but they have others that are a single fixed length.  Adjustable length Driveline crank (https://www.driveline.com.tw/product/15/58), I emailed them and bought it via email. Paid USD $100 plus postage, with chainrings installed, I'm sure you could get your preferred chainring combo from Driveline.  I run this with an Ultegra 6800 setup, works fine


That's something I was looking for! Thanks for the data.
Title: Re: Suggestions on a; 165mm, 30-46t Cranksets with BSA Bracket
Post by: Wet Noodle on July 27, 2023, 04:31:58 PM
Adjustable length Driveline crank (https://www.driveline.com.tw/product/15/58)

This one looks kind of really good, even with the gimmicky length-adjust insert. Would happen to you know Q and the maximum bb with for this?
Title: Re: Suggestions on a; 165mm, 30-46t Cranksets with BSA Bracket
Post by: eeney on July 28, 2023, 05:58:20 AM
This one looks kind of really good, even with the gimmicky length-adjust insert. Would happen to you know Q and the maximum bb with for this?

Not entirely sure how to measure Q Factor.  I just replaced a 6800 crankset and it feels the same, BB fitted without any spacers, I assume it's a standard BSA BB.

From outside of the crank arm near pedal, mine measures ~145mm from outside of crank arm on one side to the other.

Not sure of the weight. I use it for my Zwift bike.  I wanted this to try different crank lengths. I thought 160mm would be best, but by testing I've found that I prefer 165mm. So this crank was good for my needs and is working brilliantly.

If you email Driveline they are very helpful.
Title: Re: Suggestions on a; 165mm, 30-46t Cranksets with BSA Bracket
Post by: poyo on July 28, 2023, 09:38:48 AM
If anyone is interested, at Taiwan Trade you get 48/30 chainring for 50$, Usually it costs USD130
Sram direct mount 8 or 3 bolts.
I used it with a Rival dub Powermeter crank.
The price is valid for one week.

https://www.taiwantrade.com/products/detail.html?productid=1922153
Title: Re: Suggestions on a; 165mm, 30-46t Cranksets with BSA Bracket
Post by: wandulus on September 07, 2023, 05:48:15 AM
I've gone down two different routes for a 165 crankset.

  • Driveline do some shorter cranks, I went with an adjustable length crank from Driveline because I wanted to try 160mm as well, but they have others that are a single fixed length.  Adjustable length Driveline crank (https://www.driveline.com.tw/product/15/58), I emailed them and bought it via email. Paid USD $100 plus postage, with chainrings installed, I'm sure you could get your preferred chainring combo from Driveline.  I run this with an Ultegra 6800 setup, works fine
  • Wanted Power Meter for my gravel bike, so went with Xcadey crankset from aliexpress for USD $305, plus $20 shipping. This is 5 bolt sram which I just setup 1x, you can choose the spider type, eg. 110 BCD 4 or 5 bolt, or 104BCD

No complaints with either.  Xcadey is quite new but power readings are accurate next to my Powrlink pedals.  Have done many miles on the Driveline without any issues.

Today I bought 2 sets of cranksets from Driveline, an A13 on 165mm and A12X (adjustable lenght 160-165) and 2 BB86 bottom brackets. All for USD 137 EMS shipping included. Both are compatible with SRAM AXS Power meter, that I use in both of my bikes (Road and CX)
It has 4 weeks of lead time, I will post my impressions when it arrives.