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29+ & 27+ / Re: Ican P8 full suspension build
« on: March 19, 2018, 03:11:06 PM »
You sticking with the P8? That's a good review right there. The P9 does look nice, and apparently the same weight according to the Ican website. However 150mm is just a bit to much for what I do 90%of the time. Besides. Some 27.5+ tyres will add an inch travel anyway.

I actually picked up an Intense Recluse for about the same price as a P8 would have cost me to get here.  That was the initial plan though!  Had I not wanted more reach it wouldn't be for sale.

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Sales & Classifieds / Ican P8 Medium
« on: March 19, 2018, 03:56:14 AM »
Hey guys, I have moved onto a size large frame and will have my Ican P8 medium up for sale.  The frame/bike is perfect.  Just pulled it apart this winter and regreased/checked all of the pivot bearings.  The only thing on the bike that isnt factory is the top shock mount bolt.  Its now got a steel bolt instead of an aluminum.  Everything else is just as it came from Ican.

Bike will come with a Sram GXP bottom bracket and cane creek 40 series headset.  You can check it out here (it no longer has any decals on it, there is a current picture later in the thread)

http://chinertown.com/index.php/topic,1287.0.html

400.00 plus actual shipping cost from bikeflights.com

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29+ & 27+ / Re: Ican P8 full suspension build
« on: March 19, 2018, 03:48:02 AM »
Hey guys, so I pulled the trigger on another frame.  My medium P8 will be up for sale very soon.  Im thinking 400.00 plus actual shipping cost via bikeflights to anywhere in the US.  I think thats roughly half what it would cost you to get a new P8 stateside.  So I think thats fair.

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29+ & 27+ / Re: Ican P8 full suspension build
« on: March 16, 2018, 09:22:00 AM »
Pierce, I'm afraid I'm not. Bad luck there.

Melody came back to me and said If I made payment they could manufacture in 10 days time. So I'm in luck.
Have any of you done a transfer to their Western Union account?  Or have all payed by PayPal.
Getting quite excited now.

Can you see any problems If I asked them to disassemble the frame so they can use a smaller box? How complicated are the small parts?

Regards

use paypal.  and i doubt they will break it down.

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29+ & 27+ / Re: Ican P8 full suspension build
« on: March 14, 2018, 08:20:42 AM »
Thanks Bro. I will check it out seems good value..

With regards to the sag & BB height. I'm in two minds about which length stroke shock to get.  I don't want the extra 15 mm of rear travel to take away from the endurance capabilities. I could probably still set the sag the same as the shorter travel option but I will be paying for it in small bump sensitivity a little bit.

Melody from ICAN just informed me that they are out of stock in size L. I'm quite upset because just last week I asked her about stock levels and she said not to worry.  Reason for my concern is that I have a "lift" back from China for the frame to save the airfreight. My lift is returning by April 12. Have any of you had to wait for production? How reliable are they when it comes to deadlines. My past dealing with chineese factories makes me a little nervous.

BOS, are you in the US?  And do you need a large?  Im thinking about transferring parts from my medium over to a large size frame just to see if I like the extra reach on the large or not.  If I end up doing that, I would likely put my medium frame up for sale.

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29+ & 27+ / Re: Ican P8 full suspension build
« on: March 13, 2018, 07:54:29 AM »
Thanks Bro. I will check it out seems good value..

With regards to the sag & BB height. I'm in two minds about which length stroke shock to get.  I don't want the extra 15 mm of rear travel to take away from the endurance capabilities. I could probably still set the sag the same as the shorter travel option but I will be paying for it in small bump sensitivity a little bit.

Melody from ICAN just informed me that they are out of stock in size L. I'm quite upset because just last week I asked her about stock levels and she said not to worry.  Reason for my concern is that I have a "lift" back from China for the frame to save the airfreight. My lift is returning by April 12. Have any of you had to wait for production? How reliable are they when it comes to deadlines. My past dealing with chineese factories makes me a little nervous.

oh man, that sucks!  I wouldnt depend on a deadline from ANY chinese factory.  With that said, Ican in general has been VERY good to deal with, and very responsive to messages!  So I guess you never know. 

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29+ & 27+ / Re: Ican P8 full suspension build
« on: March 09, 2018, 11:07:11 PM »
Thanks for the awesome reply bro. Seems there is nothing to fear, just need to hit it.

I have the option of getting a Cane Creek DB Inline 200mm X 50mm at a steal. The other option would be a plain old Float Evolution which seems to be quite widely available off Giant Trance's They are the 200mm x 57mm though. So I'd get that extra 15mm of travel. However it might come down to quality not quantity in this case.

I would look at the Manitou Mcleod to be honest.  You wont find a better rear shock for twice the money.

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29+ & 27+ / Re: Ican P8 full suspension build
« on: March 09, 2018, 10:47:36 AM »
Hi Guys

I'm New to Chinertown. Some great looking bikes on here. The posts on the P8 has been very helpful. Im looking at ordering one for myself. I've been in contact with Melody but I dont think the is to techninally clued up. I will apprechiate some advice.

What comes included with the frame?

Headset, through axle, bolts for the shock (no bushings.  Read back through my thread here and you will see what size bushings you need)


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I will be doing just as much climbing and endurance riding as I will be doing trails. I will be running a 29'' RS Revelation 130mm on this bike with 2.3 inch tyres. Its mentioned on some threads, especially MTBR that the seat angle of the P8 looks deceptively slack but that it is the way the tube runs, and not the effective seat angle that is actually slack. So can you guys confirm, Its not a problem?

I just measured the seat angle and its just as the drawing says.  Its an effective STA of 74*.  Thats right in line with what every other top tier bike runs of thi caliber.

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The BB height seems a common topic on all threads about the P8 but most of you seem to live with it. I will however not be running crown race spacers and 140mm forks to slacken things out since the 68 deg is kind of OK for me. I have 175 cranks and since I'm 6'' on the dot I wont be looking at getting shorter cranks to combat rock strikes. Any comments on this?

Thanks in advance.

The BB height is low on this bike.  But its not much lower than a lot of other similar bikes (Transition, Norco, Ibis, etc current generation of bikes)  I would advise you to keep an open mind about going to 170mm cranks though.  That 5mm really does make a difference and you wont notice any power loss contrary to what a lot of these forums threads will have you believe.  Im 5'11" tall and running 165's.  Didnt notice a lick of difference.  Anywhere.

Honestly you cannot go wrong with the P8. Its a very solid bike!  And the geo charts are pretty damn accurate.

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29+ & 27+ / Re: Sanity check my P9 build, please!
« on: March 02, 2018, 12:42:38 PM »
In my opinion - just dish out the money for a good shock off the start. i've spent wayyyyy too much "upgrading" along the way.

Also if you are getting the frame from ican, double check if they offer RS's super deluxe RC3 - it should be about 240€.

Ill second this except Ill never ride a RS shock again.  After riding my Manitou Mcleod the RS felt like trash.  I couldnt believe the difference in suppleness, overall control, platform.  Everything was way better.  Overall feel.  All of it.

Buy a good shock from the get go.  I also made the mistake of "upgrading" along the way.  Spent WAY more money than I would have just buying the better stuff from the get go.

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29+ & 27+ / Re: Ican P8 full suspension build
« on: March 02, 2018, 09:24:47 AM »
what do you think would be the minimum for xc racing?

You may be OK depending on how low your obstacles are (roots, rocks, etc)  But I would say you should run 120mm in the front at a minimum.

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29+ & 27+ / Re: Sanity check my P9 build, please!
« on: March 02, 2018, 12:16:34 AM »
What kind of shock would you recomend for the P9?
I've seen a very cheap RS Deluxe RT ( open&trail compression modes) and also, a not so cheap Fox dps (with 3 pos compression) and I would like to know, how important would be to have a "platform" for pedalling...
I appreciate any inputs

really depends what you are using the bike for....any climbing long climbs (10+ mins involved), a "firm" pedaling platform is useful.

really right now for 210x55 Shock required for this bike here's your options:

RockShox:
Deluxe (RT - the trail mode will firm it up a bit which will help with pedaling, RC3 or RCT3 is what you want)
Super Deluxe (same as above with piggyback which is much better for long descent)
Super Deluxe Coil (same as above, but Coil)

Fox:
Dpx2 (comes with 3 settings, expensive, hard to find)

DVO:
Topaz (what I am using. Love it. 3 settings - if you get lucky it's best bang for buck imo)

Cane Creek - Expensive:
DB Coil IL (comes with climb switch)
DB Air IL (same as above in the air version)
DB Coil CS (piggy back version of the above, climb switch)
DB Air CS (same as above in the air verson, climb switch)

Hopefully Manitou comes out with something soon for the metric shock's.  Would be nice for them to add a 210x55 Mcleod to that list.

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29+ & 27+ / Re: Ican P8 full suspension build
« on: March 02, 2018, 12:14:57 AM »
my bb is 11.5 inches untagged with a 100mm fork. how about you guys?

Thats going to cause you issues.  That is LOW.  Mine is right at 13" to center of BB on the 29" wheels and 150mm fork.

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29+ & 27+ / Re: Ican P8 full suspension build
« on: February 28, 2018, 09:14:10 AM »
Here it is with the 29ers.  This is how the bike currently sits.

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29+ & 27+ / Re: Ican P8 full suspension build
« on: February 28, 2018, 09:07:58 AM »
Take your time☺ Do you have any pictures posted anywhere on here?

Alright, mine currently measures about 73 degrees measuring to the center of the seat post at ride height for me.  So pretty slack.  Measuring how bikes are measured (top of head tube level to where it intersects the seat tube) its 74 degrees just as stated.


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29+ & 27+ / Re: Ican P8 full suspension build
« on: February 28, 2018, 05:52:52 AM »
Take your time☺ Do you have any pictures posted anywhere on here?

yes, you are on my post :)  There are tons of pictures in this thread.  But below is a new one that I just took with the 29" wheels.

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