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29+ & 27+ / Re: Ican P8 full suspension build
« on: February 28, 2018, 05:40:27 AM »
That would be great! The fork i would be using is 150 29er fork. It really sounds like i want to build a rig close yours.
The Transitions are nice but very expensive!

No problem!  Ill try and get this for you Saturday night or Sunday morning.  I have to go out to storage and get a level and my angle finder.

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29+ & 27+ / Re: Ican P8 full suspension build
« on: February 28, 2018, 03:15:13 AM »
I hear ya.  My Carbine 29 is about 71/72. With the fork at 150  i guess it would make the seat angle about 72. It would also raise the bb which might be good bc i hear its quite low.

Ill actually try and get a "close to accurate" measurement of the seat tube angle for you this weekend sometime.  Remember though that mine will be slacker than listed more than likely due to the increased fork height.  Ill measure it at the current seat height and then measure it correctly (seat level with stem instead of above it).

If you want a steeper seat tube you can check out Transition with their new geometry but man they are expensive!

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29+ & 27+ / Re: Ican P8 full suspension build
« on: February 27, 2018, 06:33:54 PM »
can anyone confirm that mine is a p8 because I had to make a couple small notches in the linkage so that it wouldn't bind on bottom out and my shock only has a 53mm stroke. and you guys run a 57? bought it used so I actually don't know for sure maybe cuz my eye to eye on shock is 7.75 inches?

Post a picture.

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29+ & 27+ / Re: Ican P8 full suspension build
« on: February 27, 2018, 05:17:21 PM »
For the Barghest the HA seems to be 68.5 which is pretty steep nowadays. Is the p8 slacker? How low is the BB? I would be putting on 200x57 shock to steepen up the that HA. It could be an optical illusion that its 74 degrees but i don't believe it. The Followings SA is allegedly 74 and everyone complains that its way too slack.

The P8 is 68 degrees with a 120mm fork.  Also running a 200 x 57 shock won't steepen the seat tube angle.  The eye to eye is the same length.  Just more stroke.  It is 74 degrees.  And it's easily rideable.  If a person can't learn to lean weight forward on clinbs then this is likely NOT the bike for you.  Neither are 80% of the mid to long travel bikes on the market in that case.

My current HTA is 66.5 degrees with a 150mm travel fork just for reference.

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29+ & 27+ / Re: Ican P8 full suspension build
« on: February 27, 2018, 05:14:36 PM »
cool another one! must be a good frame then. I can't wait to ride either summer is commi ng! so here my work in progress. stuck a 100mm fork on there I don't need 120mm. stuffed an old trek shock in there. Mr hacksaw mr angle grinder and Mr drill had and Mr tap and die all had to make appearance to squeeze it in there. but feels good so far. haven't had it out for real yet though. you guys run fill cable housing for the shifter?

I do run full cable housing on everything with this bike.

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29er / Re: Enduro P9 - Full Suspension - Modern Geo - Ican 29er build
« on: February 27, 2018, 05:17:10 AM »
Is the P9 just a longer travel version of the P8?

Sort of.  Overall they are pretty similar.  The P9 has a slacker HTA than the P8 when built to spec.  But my P8 currently sits at the same 66.5* HTA with a 150 travel front fork.  Only have 135mm of rear travel though instead of the 150mm of the P9.  P9 also uses a smaller seat tube (which sucks) as well as a longer rear shock (which also sucks).

My BB clearance is now the same on the P8 as his P9 since I added 29er wheels/tires.

Overall I would say they will likely handle very similar assuming you dont need the 150mm of rear travel.  Both having the same 150mm/160mm fork travel.

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29+ & 27+ / Re: Ican P8 full suspension build
« on: February 27, 2018, 03:53:39 AM »
so I stumbled across this when searching for a frame weight on the p8. sorry if this has already been brought up. but it looks like there is a company selling complete bikes with an almost identical frame (looks the same to me) its called a Barghest NX. there are some reviews and stuff on other websites too, which is nice.

You can still likely build the P8 cheaper yourself with better parts.  Im a HUGE fan of Manitou stuff, so I actually am currently running a McLeod rear shock and this year running a Manitou Magnum Pro that I have stretched out to 150mm (same thing as the current Mattoc Pro)

I cant wait to get out on the trail! 

I also converted the bike to a 29er for this year with 2.5 Maxxis Minion DHF in the front and a 2.4 Maxxis Ardent in the rear.  Looking forward to the trails drying out so that I can go for a rip.

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29+ & 27+ / Re: Ican P8 full suspension build
« on: February 27, 2018, 03:51:22 AM »
so I stumbled across this when searching for a frame weight on the p8. sorry if this has already been brought up. but it looks like there is a company selling complete bikes with an almost identical frame (looks the same to me) its called a Barghest NX. there are some reviews and stuff on other websites too, which is nice.

Yes sir.  Its a P8 frame with what appears to be a different linkage (I couldnt get any information out of Ican about that linkage either)  Evolve Bikes out of Canada also sells a P9 frame that they are calling the Alpha 29.

https://evolvebikes.ca/products/copy-of-evolve-alpha-29-pre-order

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29+ & 27+ / Re: Ican p8 sizing
« on: February 25, 2018, 02:06:30 PM »
Thanks for the info.  I would like to run a 35mm stem on a medium but like its been said- its a lot easier to run a slightly longer stem than try to shorten your top tube!

I should add, Im running a Renthal Apex 31mm stem.  As well as a 150mm travel front fork with a 200x57 rear shock.  So There is a little added height there at the BB from the 150mm fork vs the 120mm its spec'd with.


good info.  I am debating Fork travel as well.  With the 57mm rear stroke wheel travel ends up around 135mm correct?  I am planning on running 27.5x 2.6 or 2.8" tires and was hoping for a BB height between 320-340mm.

Correct.  Roughly 135mm in the rear.  With the 150mm front travel and 29 x 2.4 rear/29 x 2.5 front tires Im right at 330mm to center of BB.  So be prepared to be on the lower side of that with the 27.5 x 2.8 tires.  These bikes do have a rather low BB height.

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29+ & 27+ / Re: Ican p8 sizing
« on: February 25, 2018, 07:50:57 AM »
Thanks for the info.  I would like to run a 35mm stem on a medium but like its been said- its a lot easier to run a slightly longer stem than try to shorten your top tube!

I should add, Im running a Renthal Apex 31mm stem.  As well as a 150mm travel front fork with a 200x57 rear shock.  So There is a little added height there at the BB from the 150mm fork vs the 120mm its spec'd with.

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29+ & 27+ / Re: Ican p8 sizing
« on: February 24, 2018, 09:55:44 AM »
Ill also say that I feel the bikes are true to size.  With that said, Im 5'11" tall (a bit taller in the torso area 31" inseam) and am on a medium frame.  Its very comfortable without feeling like Im stretched WAY out.  I would like to try a large size but feel that it may feel a bit long in the reach department.

But with that said, you look at some others and see guys at my height or an inch shorter and they are riding size large frames.  So who knows.

I can say with 100% certainty a P8 with a 29er setup in a size large would be very uncomfortable for me in the stand over department.  Im aware people dont like to use that number as a reference, but when my boys sit on the top tube on a size medium...  a large would likely make them feel quite uncomfortable.

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29+ & 27+ / Re: Sanity check my P9 build, please!
« on: February 22, 2018, 05:48:59 AM »
I took the rear apart today and measured the bearings. They're all one size, 6801's! A few are totally shot, super chunky turning, the rest are OK. I thought my spraying the bike with the hose for two hours cleaning clay off might have caused some water intrusion but everything under the dust shields looks OK. Now I am thinking they were low quality to begin with or there was some glue intrusion maybe? There are 11 in total, the front chainstay piviot has two bearings on the drive side and one on the non-drive side. Interestingly, the suspension piviot is all aluminum and only painted or coated black, some cool machining went into that piece. The chainstay piviot bolt is aluminum but solid construction. I remember seeing something of these breaking on other Ican frames. I'm looking back now and can't find where I saw that now, were those that snapped hollow?

Anyway, what I found with the sticky bearings doesn't seem like something that would cause the squeaking I'm hearing, argh!!

Back to crummy cold and wet weather for the near future, boo   :(

I broke mine.  Bolt was solid aluminum and broke right where the threaded portion meets the shank.

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29+ & 27+ / Re: Ican P8 full suspension build
« on: February 22, 2018, 05:44:40 AM »
Thats cool. Im trying to compile pros and cons to the p8 and p9. I like the geo better on the p9  but i have a rad shock and dropper that would fit the p8. Decisions, decisions...

Honestly if I was to do it all over again and had no parts, I would buy the P9.  But, since I have a shock and dropper that wont fit that new frame...  Ill stick with the P8.  Not to mention the bike feels like its got a lot more travel than 135 in the rear (with the 200x57 shock).

Overall I cant complain about the bike really.  A little slacker might be nice (I actually ordered an 18mm spacer which would get me about another degree or so of slackness at the HT)  But am unsure if I want to put that on there or not.  And we have some tight twisty single track here, so the extra slack HA might make it a bit tricky getting around the tight twisty stuff at slower speeds.

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29+ & 27+ / Re: Ican P8 full suspension build
« on: February 21, 2018, 05:51:14 PM »
What is your seat angle with a 150mm fork. Isnt the frame designed for a 120mm fork and that would give you a 74 degree seat angle?

Yes.  Frame is designed for a 120mm travel fork.  I don't want a way to accurately measure the seat angle.  But it will be slacker obviously.  It hasn't caused any issue climbing at 140mm.  It will be fine at 150 as well.

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29+ & 27+ / Re: Ican P8 full suspension build
« on: February 20, 2018, 07:24:28 PM »
Longer travel, extra baddassness... more is better right!  Thats what she said! Lol

Looks like about 136mm of rear travel on the P8 with a 200x57 rear shock.  Also just took my fork out to 150mm. 

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