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Chinese Carbon Road Bikes => Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components => Topic started by: agomezda on November 13, 2022, 04:20:02 AM
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Hi all,
after some time reading only, I decided to build my first disc bike.
I purchased a Speeder SC-R52D frame.
It is the same frame as the Adris Bikes Performance and I saw it in some Forum comments sold by Speeder that sells to direct customer and also saw it by Adapt bikes as AT-B01 (here with 30mm clearance vs the 28mm anounced by Speeder). Good alrounder semi-aero and reasonably light frame.
It should be sent to Germany by early January, so now I have some time to start searching for parts.
I though it might be interesting for the Forum as I have been profiting from your insight for a while and I hope I can contribute soon.
My objective is to get arroung 7,2Kg ride-ready which is 500gr away from my current bike due to switching to disc breaks and with a budget around 4500€, so I think it won´t be so easy.
Sram AXS Red 2x12 with a Praxis Zayante crank and SRAM Force Cassette. A light 100Gr saddle and 303 Firecrest / Elite Drive / Hunt carbon spokes wheels should do the trick with the right tires 25mm front 28 rear.
The Wheels are actually the biggest headache. ZIPP 303 FC with llifetime warranty or Elite Drive crazy wieght and price? Hunt Black-Friday prices?
Will keep you posted if there is interest.
Cheers!
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Da bin ich dabei! I am also interested in the frame. It is definitely on my list.
Curious to see what you make of it.
Kleinanzeigen for an (almost) new SRAM Red cassette? Already bought some Sram parts there for a good price.
Cheers!
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Yes, I made some good deals there too. Some people switch the 10-16 for a 10-28 in the red group and will be looking to one of those too, 10-26 should be enough for my riding.
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Why not the "Super Light Pattern" wheels directly from Speeder, look identical to the Winspace, have an internal width of 21mm, so you can save money on transport costs?
https://www.speedercycling.com/28mm-Wide-45mm-Super-Light-Pattern-Carbon-Spoke-Road-Disc-Tubeless-Wheelset-SC-28WHD45TL-CSW-_p395.html
Greetings also from Germany, I'm curious how it goes on!
Sammy
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What was the price for the Speeder SC-R52D plus shipping?
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Why not the "Super Light Pattern" wheels directly from Speeder, look identical to the Winspace, have an internal width of 21mm, so you can save money on transport costs?
Thanks I will check that path too good hint, it is +100gr. vs Elite Drive. Elite has good reviews and I am Zipp happy customer that is why I was considering these, but happy to look for alternaties as I need to wait for the frame
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What was the price for the Speeder SC-R52D plus shipping?
745$ frame, 30$ the headset, Thru Axles 20$ (did not order these as I want lighter ones, these are okish @84gr set but I can go below 60gr for little more). Shipping 120$
BTW, so far Speeder were fast and even after ordering, I am sending questions about the axles and they answered very promptly and accurate. i hope it stays like this.
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Very promising. Thanks for making this thread and including us in your purchasing journey ;D Looking at Speeder myself for a future frame purchase. I'm sure it will be a few months but I look forward to seeing the frame built up. Sounds like a very nice build!
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I also have the SC-R52D on order.
UD carbon clear gloss frame
UD carbon clear matt seat & handlebar
i'm still undiceded which groepset i'll put on it...
Plan is it should arrive january in the Netherlands
Will keep you guys posted if i know more (or have pictures :D )
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I went for Shimano 105 di2 because apparently setting up SRAM‘s front derailleur successfully is highly dependent on the frames tolerances. While I do have faith for the frame itself to be fine I cannot be sure about the FD hanger and I don’t want to risk it. I also already have a bike with ultegra so I can switch parts if i wanted to.
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Just got a quote! glad to see the max tire clearance is just a tad bigger. Gonna place the order anytime soon. Im Curious which size you guys got? Im still not sure wether to get a 510 or 535, seems like my regular size (55) is right in between.
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My frame should be shipped 2nd half of this month! Can't wait now :)
I do already got my groupset now... Also went with 105 di2 with ultegra cassette and disc rotors.
Was really on the fence weather to chose for SRAM or Shimano,
but after doubting too long just picked 105...
24mm axle, bigger chainring (looks better for large frame size imo), i could keep my current wheelset hub and my current 105 R7000 never failed me!
Do think the AXS completely wirelessness is really appealing...
Just got a quote! glad to see the max tire clearance is just a tad bigger. Gonna place the order anytime soon. Im Curious which size you guys got? Im still not sure wether to get a 510 or 535, seems like my regular size (55) is right in between.
I went with 565 frame.
I think mainly checked top tube and stack height compaired to my previous bike.
And asked for the maximum seat post length, was max 350mm if I'm correct.
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Nice! Did they state end of December on your invoice?
105 di2 should be absolutely fine. I went for the same groupset.
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Actually got mail that is shipped today! ;D
Shipping date was on "proforma invoice", but not on final invoice
It stated 2022/12/15
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Same here. Funny enough, I asked about the production status a couple of days ago. They told me "all as planned", shipping planned on Jan 6th... and today they shared by e-mail the XDB label, it has been shipped. Either the production plant and the office are disconnected or they got some orders cancelled and reassigned the stock, not sure what to think.
It might arrive in a couple of weeks, but if it is not quick I will not be able to check it, since I will be gone for Xmas.
Size 48.5 for me. Sram Red AXS Group and Light Bicycle AR45 DISC Flyweight rims with DT240s have been ordered during Black Friday for the frame :)
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I went with 565 frame.
I think mainly checked top tube and stack height compaired to my previous bike.
And asked for the maximum seat post length, was max 350mm if I'm correct.
Thanks! I hope someone can keep me updated on the max tire clearance :). As im planning to use 30mm width carbon rims on it.
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Looking forward for any update for SC-R52D frame. Anyone already got it?
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I'm curious about that too.
Unfortunately, speeder no longer sells the SC-R52D to Germany.
I was too late... Merde...
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Hi,
I had no idea they do not send to Germany anymore. Why?
My frame arrived to Germany on the 24th od Dec but I had left already for Xmas vacation.
DPD left it on my stairs and had to contact the neighbour to store it until the 9th on January.
I will post pics and weights once I am back… looking forward already.
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They're probably selling the R52D to a German brand now who is selling it under their name and they've got regional exclusivity.
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Same story here!
Arrived 27th at the Netherlands, but i am also away for holidays...
Will return 5th so can probably provide pictures 6th!
Hi,
I had no idea they do not send to Germany anymore. Why?
My frame arrived to Germany on the 24th od Dec but I had left already for Xmas vacation.
DPD left it on my stairs and had to contact the neighbour to store it until the 9th on January.
I will post pics and weights once I am back… looking forward already.
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That's great, hopefully can hear from you sooner :).
Checking on the Adrisport website https://www.adrisport.com/index.php/le-performance/ , the frame looks great and stealthy. Hopefully it's lightweight too.
Same story here!
Arrived 27th at the Netherlands, but i am also away for holidays...
Will return 5th so can probably provide pictures 6th!
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Can anyone identify this frame on Adrisport website?
https://www.adrisport.com/index.php/le-vitesse/ (https://www.adrisport.com/index.php/le-vitesse/)
Looks similar to Winspace T1500 /Speeder SC-R49D however the chainstay and downtube is slightly different.
https://www.instagram.com/p/Cl1fu7yssg_/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/Cl1fu7yssg_/)
Looks awesome, but the price is outrageous (if it's an open mold/shared frame).
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Can anyone identify this frame on Adrisport website?
https://www.adrisport.com/index.php/le-vitesse/ (https://www.adrisport.com/index.php/le-vitesse/)
Looks similar to Winspace T1500 /Speeder SC-R49D however the chainstay and downtube is slightly different.
https://www.instagram.com/p/Cl1fu7yssg_/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/Cl1fu7yssg_/)
Looks awesome, but the price is outrageous (if it's an open mold/shared frame).
Virtually everything is different to the Speeder. Pretty sure it will be a catalogue frame from someone though. I highly doubt "conçu en France" will come true any time soon, let alone their ridiculous claim of "produit en Bretagne".
Edit: weren't renders of this posted absolutely ages ago? more than a year maybe? On that note, the 'photo' of it being ridden still looks like a bad 'shop job.
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Can anyone identify this frame on Adrisport website?
https://www.adrisport.com/index.php/le-vitesse/ (https://www.adrisport.com/index.php/le-vitesse/)
Looks similar to Winspace T1500 /Speeder SC-R49D however the chainstay and downtube is slightly different.
https://www.instagram.com/p/Cl1fu7yssg_/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/Cl1fu7yssg_/)
Looks awesome, but the price is outrageous (if it's an open mold/shared frame).
I asked Speeder if they offered that aero ADRIS frame.
Justin replied: "The picture for ADRIS bike you sent is not made by us."
That's great, hopefully can hear from you sooner :).
Checking on the Adrisport website https://www.adrisport.com/index.php/le-performance/ , the frame looks great and stealthy. Hopefully it's lightweight too.
Will weigh it and make pictures when I'm back! :)
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I asked Speeder if they offered that aero ADRIS frame.
Justin replied: "The picture for ADRIS bike you sent is not made by us."
Will weigh it and make pictures when I'm back! :)
Very curious about the frameset! Would it be possible to get the measured tire clearance as well? ::)
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Here first pic!
First impression looks really nice! ;D
Will post weights and clearance little later!
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Frame size 565
Handlebar size: 390/105
UD carbon clear gloss frame
UD carbon clear matt seat & handlebar
Weights:
Frame: 1053g
Fork: 392g
Handlebar: 402g
Seatpost: 179g
truaxle front+back: 75g
Expander plug: 54g
Headset bearings: 62g
Headset cap+ring: 18g
Head spacers: 29g
Seatpost clamp: 18g
Seatpost rubber: 5g
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Thanks for sharing, the frame itself look fantastic
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Here first pic!
First impression looks really nice! ;D
Will post weights and clearance little later!
Looks great!
What size is it?
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Here first pic!
First impression looks really nice! ;D
Will post weights and clearance little later!
Looks really great!! Its the glossy version?
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Looks really great!! Its the glossy version?
Ordered:
UD carbon clear gloss frame
UD carbon clear matt seat & handlebar
Looks great!
What size is it?
565
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Very curious about the frameset! Would it be possible to get the measured tire clearance as well? ::)
I have 25mm gp5000TL on Lún 60mm
It measures 26mm wide
It's about 6-7mm clearance on each side
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I have 25mm gp5000TL on Lún 60mm
It measures 26mm wide
It's about 6-7mm clearance on each side
Thank you very much!
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Amazing marble effect with just clear coat. If I could go back in time I would order that instead black glossy paint, and save also some gramms. I would like to see it under the sun, it mus look amazing, nice stuff.
So mine looks as attached.
Paint quality is good but i will add in the next post some flaws in taping and finishing.
Weights:
Frame (size 485) with hanger and bolts: 1035gr.
Fork: 394gr.
Handlebar 370/95: 394gr.
Seatpost: 176gr.
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Inside part of the fork, where the thru axel seats, unpainted.
Where the break seats is also not really perfect, I will sand a bit.
BB not really nice either.
Headseat and seatpost fine.
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Great sharing mate. I think this is usual if we bought the frame directly from the OEM (maybe, or any other better term to use?), some finishing on the part looks rough compared to the frame by from branded company.
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The bottom bracket looks atrocious.
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The BB looks poor ... it's certainly not on the VB (etc) scale of dog shit, but also not like anything else I've seen from Speeder (or brands using their frames).
I'd raise it with them.
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Thanks for the comments.
The paint quality looks actually good in the frame, the details are bad im tue complicated parts, not a lot of time and pride was put into it, but the BB and headtube look according specs and the BB cover will not show the bad finishing.
Also the internals are very nicely finished, this does not come into pics otherwise I would share.
So I think the frame is well done, but they rushed whilr appling the protecting tape and removing it etc…
I agree a brand puts more quality in the paint job.
What can I expect from them raising my concerns? Any experience with that?
The weight I was expecting less for a 48.5 size I think they were too generous with paint thickness, which is also lack of paint skills.
I will press the BB later this week and let‘s see…
If it is not good it goes to Hambini ;D XD
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For whatever it's worth...
Speeder is not a factory. It is also not a brand with a factory shareholder/ownership stake. They are an agent, at the mercy of whatever their factory(s) send them.
The frames could be overstock, larger brand QC rejects, factory allotment, or a mixture of all three.
However, when you're just an agent rather than a factory stakeholder...you accept liability for the frames without any recourse to the factory. For example a brand like Specialized or Trek can bully a factory or even take their business elsewhere if the produced frames don't meet the brand's QC. They can simply reject the frames and stop paying the factory.
An agent like Speeder doesn't have that level of power and control. They most likely would have to eat the costs.
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More or less same here!
Headtube looks bit less nice at mine
Although the chamfer edge is smooth
BB inside face is smooth and looks ok.
BB Outside face on non drive side also looks like a bit rushed with tape/paint...
The BB dive side outside face actually looks good. That side looks flattened.
Disc brake mount surface looks rushed with masking of paint.
Inside looks good as far as I can see. (And outside with the carbon clear coat)
Also I like the small carbon tube in chainstay and fork to route the brake hose and avoid rattling
(maybe that's on all bikes... This is my first frame! :))
The outside screw side of fork is also not painted. Looks intentional.
Maybe branded frames (i.e. Adria) adds a plastic cap here? same as canyon bikes do.
Or are there other type of truaxles which intend to use this for clamping? ???
I'll probably try to find a thin plastic endcap for it.
btw, not sure if relevant to ...
Inside the frame and some other parts the stickers state FB-B52
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For whatever it's worth...
Speeder is not a factory. It is also not a brand with a factory shareholder/ownership stake. They are an agent, at the mercy of whatever their factory(s) send them.
The frames could be overstock, larger brand QC rejects, factory allotment, or a mixture of all three.
However, when you're just an agent rather than a factory stakeholder...you accept liability for the frames without any recourse to the factory. For example a brand like Specialized or Trek can bully a factory or even take their business elsewhere if the produced frames don't meet the brand's QC. They can simply reject the frames and stop paying the factory.
An agent like Speeder doesn't have that level of power and control. They most likely would have to eat the costs.
False. Speeder are the factory basically in all but name. It's Focus Carbon Tecnologies' brand - FCT is the actual factory. I don't think their to-consumer-and-small-brand side is big enough for them to be run separately by different teams as FBA and Carbonda are.
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Looking at this detail pictures, it's acceptable or maybe good finishing on the BB area. We can clearly see the 3k carbon weave.
More or less same here!
Headtube looks bit less nice at mine
Although the chamfer edge is smooth
BB inside face is smooth and looks ok.
BB Outside face on non drive side also looks like a bit rushed with tape/paint...
The BB dive side outside face actually looks good. That side looks flattened.
Disc brake mount surface looks rushed with masking of paint.
Inside looks good as far as I can see. (And outside with the carbon clear coat)
Also I like the small carbon tube in chainstay and fork to route the brake hose and avoid rattling
(maybe that's on all bikes... This is my first frame! :))
The outside screw side of fork is also not painted. Looks intentional.
Maybe branded frames (i.e. Adria) adds a plastic cap here? same as canyon bikes do.
Or are there other type of truaxles which intend to use this for clamping? ???
I'll probably try to find a thin plastic endcap for it.
btw, not sure if relevant to ...
Inside the frame and some other parts the stickers state FB-B52
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For whatever it's worth...
Speeder is not a factory. It is also not a brand with a factory shareholder/ownership stake. They are an agent, at the mercy of whatever their factory(s) send them.
The frames could be overstock, larger brand QC rejects, factory allotment, or a mixture of all three.
However, when you're just an agent rather than a factory stakeholder...you accept liability for the frames without any recourse to the factory. For example a brand like Specialized or Trek can bully a factory or even take their business elsewhere if the produced frames don't meet the brand's QC. They can simply reject the frames and stop paying the factory.
An agent like Speeder doesn't have that level of power and control. They most likely would have to eat the costs.
And how do you know that ?
@NLD
https://www.canyon.com/en-us/gear/components/spare-and-wear-parts/spare-wear-parts/canyon-gp7023-01-fork-cover/10007135.html
There covers are branded , let us know if you find unbrandend ones.
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Hi all,
I do not think the BB it is too bad, it is only not thoroughly taped, and the paint seems too thick, which is good if you do not care about extra 50gr.
I added some more pics without macro, otherwise it looks like the end of the world ;). I also marked the internal guide in the rear for the brake hose. The same hose is available in the fork. Nice feature as commented before.
Also for reference the seatpost clamp will not accept a saddle with carbon rails since these are too wide and I bought this:
"Ritchey Ritchey WCS Carbon Retrofit Kit 7x9.6mm for Seat Posts" for 13€ and extra 10gr. I will install it once it arrives.
It is frustrating that the wheels from Light Bicycle are delayed and cannot complete the build.
Regarding FCT / Speeder. I have no clue if it is a manufacturer or not, I thought manufacturer when I ordered, but for sure it was strange how they told me in erlay Dec that my frame will be ready in Jan 6th and the day after it was shipped, as if they got a batch from the factory all of a sudden.
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After a bit of fiddling with the saddle I also figured out I have to order the Retrofit Kit 7x9.6mm for Seat Posts... Haha
For now I have my old saddle with steel rails on.
Bike is almost done!
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After a bit of fiddling with the saddle I also figured out I have to order the Retrofit Kit 7x9.6mm for Seat Posts... Haha
For now I have my old saddle with steel rails on.
Bike is almost done!
This is coming together nicely. I'm curious about the end result and how it rides.
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That is a beauty ;)
How was the bb instalation? I am waiting for my Loctite 595 to arrive before proceeding to avoid creaking.
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I was playing a bit with the top cap and this aluminium top cap from Aliexpress looks neater than the provided one IMO (and save 11gr.), just in case it is interesting for someone.
One question for NLD or other members with integrated cabing:
I have no experience with the FSA nr55r headset. Is normal this space between last spacer and frame as in the first pic? It looks like half a mm too much. I think I mounted it right, will check later more in detail.
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That is a beauty ;)
How was the bb instalation? I am waiting for my Loctite 595 to arrive before proceeding to avoid creaking.
Why do you use 595?
I want to try the BB installation without any retaining compound to see if its fine without (just being optimistic about tolerances I guess).
I also looked at the Park Tool retaining compound and apparently you have to use it with a primer because otherwise you'd end up with permanent adhesion (at least when working with carbon).
As I have not done anything like that before I can't be sure to use the primer correctly, fail somehow and end up with a stuck BB, so I want to avoid going that route.
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I've been using cheap Park Tool PPL-1 POLYLUBE 1000 Grease for all my bottom bracket installs. No creaking what so ever.
Should also mention I use a quality BB tool and always always always a quality bottom bracket. (Wheels MFG or Kogel Bearings).
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I was playing a bit with the top cap and this aluminium top cap from Aliexpress looks neater than the provided one IMO (and save 11gr.), just in case it is interesting for someone.
One question for NLD or other members with integrated cabing:
I have no experience with the FSA nr55r headset. Is normal this space between last spacer and frame as in the first pic? It looks like half a mm too much. I think I mounted it right, will check later more in detail.
BB is not yet installed, plan to do that tomorrow!
Will try to mount it (Shimano pressfit BB) dry.
Oeh, that topcap looks much better! Nice and flush!
I'll also order one :)
On the headset, I don't have other experiences.
But for sure needs to be not touching the frame, otherwise it will rub into the frame.
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BB went in good! 1st try went in straight!
I have Shimano BB71 and pushed it in dry.
Hopefully will stay creak free
Edit: Done!
Now just have to wait on good weather for the first test ride ;D
(And need to borrow a scale to weigh it...)
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Why do you use 595?
I want to try the BB installation without any retaining compound to see if its fine without (just being optimistic about tolerances I guess).
I have a Praxis M30 BB86 and it recommends Loctite 595 for carbon shell. So I will try it like that…
I did in the past without retaining compound and no issues since I am a light rider, not putting lots of power in the BB.
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At a glance, SC52D frame almost look alike slimmer version of Wilier Filante SLR ;D
(http://)
After a bit of fiddling with the saddle I also figured out I have to order the Retrofit Kit 7x9.6mm for Seat Posts... Haha
For now I have my old saddle with steel rails on.
Bike is almost done!
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What is the total weight for this build?
BB went in good! 1st try went in straight!
I have Shimano BB71 and pushed it in dry.
Hopefully will stay creak free
Edit: Done!
Now just have to wait on good weather for the first test ride ;D
(And need to borrow a scale to weigh it...)
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Mine is almost ready.
BB pressing went suprisingly good. Internal cabling etc, no issues at all, quick job.
Overall weight 7Kg with accesories and without pedals. I will weight it in detail later once it is completely finshed.
A buddy will come over to help me with the bike fitting and then I will cut more steerer and unneded seat post.
The Sram AXS fine tunning needs to be done, and bleeding. Milk in the tires... so still some job to be done.
I agree it looks like the Filiante, even the saddle post and holding mechanism, the rubber cover too. Might be a little slimmer down tube and thicker fork in the Speeder.
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Hi all,
after some time reading only, I decided to build my first disc bike.
I purchased a Speeder SC-R52D frame.
It is the same frame as the Adris Bikes Performance and I saw it in some Forum comments sold by Speeder that sells to direct customer and also saw it by Adapt bikes as AT-B01 (here with 30mm clearance vs the 28mm anounced by Speeder). Good alrounder semi-aero and reasonably light frame.
It should be sent to Germany by early January, so now I have some time to start searching for parts.
I though it might be interesting for the Forum as I have been profiting from your insight for a while and I hope I can contribute soon.
My objective is to get arroung 7,2Kg ride-ready which is 500gr away from my current bike due to switching to disc breaks and with a budget around 4500€, so I think it won´t be so easy.
Sram AXS Red 2x12 with a Praxis Zayante crank and SRAM Force Cassette. A light 100Gr saddle and 303 Firecrest / Elite Drive / Hunt carbon spokes wheels should do the trick with the right tires 25mm front 28 rear.
The Wheels are actually the biggest headache. ZIPP 303 FC with llifetime warranty or Elite Drive crazy wieght and price? Hunt Black-Friday prices?
Will keep you posted if there is interest.
Cheers!ö
Hi the adapt at bt01 Looks different on the fork and seat clamp. Anybody knows the Frame ?
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Did not read anything yet about Adapt bikes. The fork looks different, more narrow, more like the Filante. The seatpost clamp seems same to me, the frame I cannot tell any difference by the pictures.
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Manage to contact Alynn from Adapt bike. She informs that this model is not available to buy directly from them. Apparently, it's the same as Nich Legend 4.
Hi the adapt at bt01 Looks different on the fork and seat clamp. Anybody knows the Frame ?
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The page from Adapt seems the same source code as Speeder, I assume one is B2C and the other one B2B, but behind it could be the same people. Also the frame from https://www.nichcycling.com/pages/legend4 made by Adapt is to my eyes the same as my SC-R52D. White looks very nice, seems more beefy, more aero.
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The Nich and R52D are not the same frames there's a difference on the top tube near the headtube and also at the junction of the top tube / seatpost.
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Agree yes, looked at it more in detail. Also junction downtube with headtube.
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Today finally made my first test ride!
Bit of a shame it was wet roads, so immediately made the new bike dirty :-\
As for how it rides. I can't judge that well to be honest.
It was only a 40km ride with wet roads windy and my fitness was a bit more crap then it used to be in my last ride 4 months ago.
Also, I don't have much for reference, mainly previous bike, aluminium Canyon endurance disc.
But first impression was good!
Things I think I noticed (although might be deu to being excited on Riding the new bike ;D )
Felt like a bit better acceleration.
Frame did feel more comfortable then my alu bike.
Stiffness while sprinting and pushing on the pedals felt solid, not flexy.
Stiffness of handlebar felt not more flex when standig still. So tested it with some sprints, but felt good and not noodlely on de road.
Other then that couldn't really tell anything else. I felt more aero, but that's probably just because it looks more aero :D
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Similar here, we might live close by. A couple of rides outdoors and many on the turbo trainer. Weather has been extra cold and if not super cold, miserable.
One ride was on -4degrees, icy and not so fun, today windy and rainy but could enjoy the ride.
Regarding the frame, all good for the building, no issues with brakes alignment or bb.
My only complaints:
- I was expecting 100gr less on the frame weight. Still the whole bike is 7,150gr with pedals.
- Regarding internal cabling easy to do, but I find a bit anoying how easy the bike turns the handlebar to left or right while pushing it while walking or raising it. Not having cables makes it too easy to spin the handlebar. Riding it is perfect.
Pleasant bike. i am happy. No flex etc detected, bike feels normal stiff, but I am running tubeless tires at lower pressures so I assume this filters a bit all the road feeling as to point any difference with my previous bike (I am coming from a rim break Scott addict) Aero claims I cannot do, just by the looks, it has to be more efficient.
I did a few pics today.
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Nice bike @agozmeda!
7.1 KG with pedals and bottle cages? that's great!
Can you share a full parts list? Thank you!
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Oh dang that bike looks good, @NLD.
I honestly couldn't decide between the SC-R52D or SC-R48D if I had to choose. But probably this one LoL.
Currently I have the ICAN A40, Elves Falath Evo, and now this on my radar for summer. Thanks haha
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Attached the list of compenents and prices (most things bought during Black Friday). Final weight 7,15Kg with all pieces, not far from estimations.
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7,15kg nice! I tried to measure with cheap luggage analog scale, but was between 7.5kg /7.9kg... so not that accurate scale ::)
Will try to borrow a good digital scale soon. But probably closer to 7.9 I guess.. (incl cages and pedals ofcourse :))
I took some quick pictures in the sun! Tried to get the effect of the carbon... The carbon + sun really nice effect! 8)
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7,15kg nice! I tried to measure with cheap luggage analog scale, but was between 7.5kg /7.9kg... so not that accurate scale ::)
Will try to borrow a good digital scale soon. But probably closer to 7.9 I guess.. (incl cages and pedals ofcourse :))
I took some quick pictures in the sun! Tried to get the effect of the carbon... The carbon + sun really nice effect! 8)
Very nice ! How does it ride ? stiff ?
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Veeery nice how the carbon looks under the sun 8)
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which email did you use to contact them ?
can't seem to get a response
thanks
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which email did you use to contact them ?
can't seem to get a response
thanks
I just used the contact us button on their website and got a response from Justin within 24 hours. Email was from justin@speedercycling.com
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Did anyone manage to contact Justin? Apparently, he doesn't reply to my WeChat anymore.
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I've just had some wheels arrive from Speeder. Justin was responsive both on Skype and email throughout. I was super happy with the communications
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Same issue here. I've tried to contact them multiple times, through their website, and via email. I got exactly 0 responses for the past few months. Guess they don't want customers.
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has anyone tried 30mm wheels on the R52D? do they fit?
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has anyone tried 30mm wheels on the R52D? do they fit?
I did try on 28mm tires on 21mm internal width wheels.
Fork no problem and rear, I have 4mm aprox on each side, so yes for road should be fine, but a tight fit.
Check the pictures yourself.
1st pic fork (25mm Schwalbe Pro Tubeless)
2nd pic on the rear (same tire but on 28mm)
Cheers!
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this is the 52D, right? https://www.parapera-bikes.de/our-bikes/atmos%C2%B2-gravelbike guess thats the reason why its not available in germany anymore :(
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this is the 52D, right? https://www.parapera-bikes.de/our-bikes/atmos%C2%B2-gravelbike guess thats the reason why its not available in germany anymore :(
Good catch.Parapera Atmos2. Seems the same I would say but did you check the geometry table?
The geometry is a bit different. I think it is an slightly modified version to fit 34mm tires.
In my Speeder 52D 30mm yes, but 34mm I dont think so… Interesting in any case…
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Good catch.Parapera Atmos2. Seems the same I would say but did you check the geometry table?
The geometry is a bit different. I think it is an slightly modified version to fit 34mm tires.
In my Speeder 52D 30mm yes, but 34mm I dont think so… Interesting in any case…
i do believe the atmos uses a slightly different design since it can fit 34mm tires and the geometry differs in a few spots i noticed, but only for 1 to 3mm
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Just finished my build using leftover parts from my 2021 Trek Checkpoint (I had a full GRX mechanical groupset and 50MM DT240 Farsports wheelset on-hand). Frameset took 3 months from payment date to get shipped and shipping itself took approximately 2 weeks to get delivered here in California. First build from the frame up, so hopefully I didn't make any egregious mistakes.
Build with a size 51 frame weighs 17.5lbs/7.9kg with Favero pedals, computer mount and bottle cages. Overall, I was impressed with the frame quality and the finishing was excellent (the BB/headset were pretty comparable to my Checkpoint's). I have 32MM GP5000s on mine which would be the max tire width I'd be comfortable running.
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Dang! Nice build! But what's up with the saddle height?
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Just finished my build using leftover parts from my 2021 Trek Checkpoint (I had a full GRX mechanical groupset and 50MM DT240 Farsports wheelset on-hand). Frameset took 3 months from payment date to get shipped and shipping itself took approximately 2 weeks to get delivered here in California. First build from the frame up, so hopefully I didn't make any egregious mistakes.
Build with a size 51 frame weighs 17.5lbs/7.9kg with Favero pedals, computer mount and bottle cages. Overall, I was impressed with the frame quality and the finishing was excellent (the BB/headset were pretty comparable to my Checkpoint's). I have 32MM GP5000s on mine which would be the max tire width I'd be comfortable running.
super sleek, great job! do you by chance know how wide your tires measure when on the rim?
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super sleek, great job! do you by chance know how wide your tires measure when on the rim?
They're 33mm on 24mm internal width rims and there's 3mm of clearance at the chainstays.
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Hi guys,
Here is my R52D. After 3 months, the frame arrived well packaged, no missing parts. The finish, build quality and tolerances are great, BB and disc brake mounts are faced, head tube well finished, the paint job is excellent with no excess in the BB, disc mounts and head tube areas. No any particular problem during the build. The frame, seat post and handlebars have marble glossy finish, and look nicer than the pictures. The size is 510, handlebar 370|85. The frame feels stiff, the seat post has good flex and is comfortable. On the other hand, the handlebars are very uncomfortably stiff, may be because they are very narrow, 370 mm with short stem, or they are just stiff. I installed GP5000, 28 mm (real width of the tire is 29.4 mm), on 21 mm internal width rim and there is 3-4 mm clearance on the chain stays, the fork has bigger clearance.
My only complaint, it is not about the frame but rather about my handlebars choice. The handling is very very nervous. I have two another bike with 400 mm handlebars and 90 mm and 100 mm stems and the handling is very different. So, I was wondering, could the 30 mm shorter handlebars impact that much the handling? I'd like to ask the other frame owners how they feel the handling of their bikes.
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Just finished my build using leftover parts from my 2021 Trek Checkpoint (I had a full GRX mechanical groupset and 50MM DT240 Farsports wheelset on-hand). Frameset took 3 months from payment date to get shipped and shipping itself took approximately 2 weeks to get delivered here in California. First build from the frame up, so hopefully I didn't make any egregious mistakes.
Build with a size 51 frame weighs 17.5lbs/7.9kg with Favero pedals, computer mount and bottle cages. Overall, I was impressed with the frame quality and the finishing was excellent (the BB/headset were pretty comparable to my Checkpoint's). I have 32MM GP5000s on mine which would be the max tire width I'd be comfortable running.
WOW!!!!
Please wich is your saddle height?
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Hi guys,
Here is my R52D. After 3 months, the frame arrived well packaged, no missing parts. The finish, build quality and tolerances are great, BB and disc brake mounts are faced, head tube well finished, the paint job is excellent with no excess in the BB, disc mounts and head tube areas. No any particular problem during the build. The frame, seat post and handlebars have marble glossy finish, and look nicer than the pictures. The size is 510, handlebar 370|85. The frame feels stiff, the seat post has good flex and is comfortable. On the other hand, the handlebars are very uncomfortably stiff, may be because they are very narrow, 370 mm with short stem, or they are just stiff. I installed GP5000, 28 mm (real width of the tire is 29.4 mm), on 21 mm internal width rim and there is 3-4 mm clearance on the chain stays, the fork has bigger clearance.
My only complaint, it is not about the frame but rather about my handlebars choice. The handling is very very nervous. I have two another bike with 400 mm handlebars and 90 mm and 100 mm stems and the handling is very different. So, I was wondering, could the 30 mm shorter handlebars impact that much the handling? I'd like to ask the other frame owners how they feel the handling of their bikes.
WOW !!!
Which is your saddle height?
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i orderd the frame yesterday. i hat the luck that i have a adress in china and italy so i take the frame with me in the next holiday.
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i orderd the frame yesterday. i hat the luck that i have a adress in china and italy so i take the frame with me in the next holiday.
How much in total if you don't mind me asking.
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1000 dollar with headset, handelbar etc.
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Thanks for your posts on this thread, I recently ordered this frameset at size 48.5, with clear coat UD gloss finish.
I do not have any experience ordering framesets from chinese shops/factories, but overall I am happy with the communication with Speeder cycling and the frameset itself.
It took 35 days from my paypal payment to the day where I received the frameset, which was less than I expected
I built the bike with parts from another frame that could not accept a front derailleur.
(https://i.imgur.com/fhUExE5.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/ZjCIKcZ.jpg)
Michelin Power CUP TLR and Conti GP5000 S TR, both in 30 mm and installed on light bicycle WR45 rims, fit fine regarding tyre clearance. I might be able to fit 32 mm tires but I think that would be the maximum size.
I can confirm that the weight of the frame only (with hanger and cage mounts) was 906 g.
I did not order the integrated handlebar since I ride with clip-on bars mounted on a standard handlebar, but the top cover provided was not adapted to a standard stem. Eventually I fitted a FSA SRS headset, which look not as bad as I expected, as long as there is no spacer between the top cover and the stem
I was wondering if someone could recommend a rear derailleur hanger that could fit the frame ? I already bent one hanger following a minor crash. I had ordered two extra hangers, but I would appreciate having the possibility to find hangers without ordering at speeder cycling, if one day the shop disappears...
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Thanks for your posts on this thread, I recently ordered this frameset at size 48.5, with clear coat UD gloss finish.
I do not have any experience ordering framesets from chinese shops/factories, but overall I am happy with the communication with Speeder cycling and the frameset itself.
It took 35 days from my paypal payment to the day where I received the frameset, which was less than I expected
I built the bike with parts from another frame that could not accept a front derailleur.
(https://i.imgur.com/fhUExE5.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/ZjCIKcZ.jpg)
Michelin Power CUP TLR and Conti GP5000 S TR, both in 30 mm and installed on light bicycle WR45 rims, fit fine regarding tyre clearance. I might be able to fit 32 mm tires but I think that would be the maximum size.
I can confirm that the weight of the frame only (with hanger and cage mounts) was 906 g.
I did not order the integrated handlebar since I ride with clip-on bars mounted on a standard handlebar, but the top cover provided was not adapted to a standard stem. Eventually I fitted a FSA SRS headset, which look not as bad as I expected, as long as there is no spacer between the top cover and the stem
I was wondering if someone could recommend a rear derailleur hanger that could fit the frame ? I already bent one hanger following a minor crash. I had ordered two extra hangers, but I would appreciate having the possibility to find hangers without ordering at speeder cycling, if one day the shop disappears...
Wheels Manufacturing may offer one that would fit.
https://wheelsmfg.com/derailleur-hangers.html (https://wheelsmfg.com/derailleur-hangers.html)
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hi can anyone explain where to put the slim ring for the headset. looks like its for the side oft the fork. i hand two clamps one is for the seatpost ans the other one the di2 batteryholder ? thank you
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Any updates on this frame?
I told myself I would stop testing "cheap" and affordable frames, but the reality is...I probably will never stop LoL
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Any updates on this frame?
I told myself I would stop testing "cheap" and affordable frames, but the reality is...I probably will never stop LoL
At this rate only a couple more before I make a Pati "I'll stop testing cheap chinese frames" compilation LOL
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Any updates on this frame?
I told myself I would stop testing "cheap" and affordable frames, but the reality is...I probably will never stop LoL
still have the frame in the box . but looks good ,weight is nice to. next month put first wheels on…
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Love the look of this bike! Any updates regarding ride feel from those initial impressions? Has anyone done some decent climbing with it?
Narrowing down choices for a frame between this one and Yishun R1058D.
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Still happy with this frameset ! I think it is a good allrounder frame for fast group riding, solo endurance rides, and climbs.
I noticed with my narrow bar (36 cm) that going from a 90 mm to a 100 mm stem improved the handling when I am out of the saddle.
My main regret is the tight tyre clearance at the back.
edit : another regret is the bb86 standard, not really convenient with axs groupset : there is not a lot of option of threaded together bottom bracket for this combination
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Ordered mine yesterday! Very excited for this frame after a lot of waffling on the decision.
I'll share the build when it arrives. Scheduled for late Jan/early Feb.
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habe you also this large gap on the stem clamp ?
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small update … hope to finish in february. after bikefit i think i can go 2 cm deeper.
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finished totally happy
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To the owners of the the SC-R52D, how would you rate the frame now that you have more mileage on it?
How is the stiffness, ride characteristics etc.?