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Re: LCFS947 - 160mm 4-bar 27+/29 Update,

finally got 90% of the parts - a mixture of some parts I had left-over, some 2nd-hand stuff and bit and pieces of some new stuff.

I decided to do a vinyl wrap, quoted $200 for it.



March 31, 2021, 04:57:36 AM
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Re: LCFS947 - 160mm 4-bar 27+/29 The bike is almost finished. A chain and some adjustments left before I can test-ride it. I am happy that I choose a 120 mm dropper for the size L frame. Im 184 cm tall and it would not have worked with a higher dropperpost.
April 01, 2021, 11:49:21 PM
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Re: LCFS947 - 160mm 4-bar 27+/29 All things now put together.  I have a 120 mm dropper-post, I will most likely replace it with a 150 mm, there is space for it. The Marzocchi Bomber CR is a bit difficult to get in place and to adjust the spring compared to a air damper, the coil works against me. But when all adjustments are done its no problem, then the Marzocchi fight is over. I  haven't taken the bike into the woods yet, but my first impression is that it fells a lot like my LCFS958.

Hopefully all adjustments are done before next weekend so that the first trail test can take place.

April 06, 2021, 01:59:28 AM
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Re: LCFS947 - 160mm 4-bar 27+/29 Today I had my first ride on the LCFS947 and its really a great bike. It climbs extremely well and is super stable on descends. Its a long bike so it feels a little slower throwing around rocks and tight trails. I have a Marzocchi Bomber CR on it and it works great. But its very, very tight so I cant adjust the spring by hand, I need a little tool.

Tomorrow Im taking my LCFS958 for a ride to get a fell of the differences and to start finding out if I prefer one before the other.

April 10, 2021, 02:01:07 PM
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Re: Carbonda fm936 Thoughts I'm having a hard time understanding what your issue is. Here is your first post:

  At winter found some cracks around link in front triangle.  Carbonda claimed this as a warranty an said they send me new triangle in march. In march they said it delays to april. Now finally new triangle is ready, and they put me new recuirement - to cut off old triangle. At this moment I,m resting with shoulder injury. And I dont understand how I can dissasemble full suspension bike with inner cables with only one working hand.  And I dont want to stay without rideable bike for recovery period, with easy rides.  ( maybe shipping stucks for months). Carbonda do not accept my arguments.  Earlier I was thinking about building trail bike on fm1002, may be now it's not a good idea...

You want to get a warranty replacement for your frame because it has cracks that made you feel uneasy enough about it that you contacted Carbonda. Carbonda responded that yes, appears to be an issue and should be replaced.
Then your complaint is that you are resting your shoulder and only have one good hand and can't disassemble the bike. Yet you will have to either way in order to swap the frame's front triangle.
Now they decide me to pay 500$ deposit, claiming to return it when new triangle arrives, and I cut off old cracked triangle. Wtf??? )
Carbonda offers a very standard compromise - give a deposit and they will send a replacement. When you get it swapped over, you will get your deposit back.
I don't expect anything from them. I just want ride my bike soon, if I cut off it now, it will be unrideable for unknown time.
Can you ride your bike right now, as is? I thought you were injured and the bike cracked enough that it is deemed a warranty replacement item, likely unsafe?

So you want to continue riding a cracked carbon framed bike, while injured, and then when the new front triangle arrives, disassemble and swap the parts over?
If so, pay the deposit. Not an uncommon practice or unreasonable thing for a company to request.

But why do you want to ride a broken bike that you were concerned enough that you asked the company for a replacement?

April 26, 2021, 02:28:50 PM
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Re: LCFS947 - 160mm 4-bar 27+/29 Ha did the attachments wrong. More pics:
July 14, 2021, 10:37:51 AM
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Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
Fwiw my dengfu bike box came beat up like that too. Took pics and videos, frames fine.

Hopefully velo packaged it well, dengfu packaged mine well as well. I think the sellers know the boxes get thrown around so they package them very securely with wraps and stuff. That dent is probably because it got pushed up against a conveyer belt entrance or somethingn, but i bet its fine. Let us know :)

Thanks! All seems to be okay on first sight, I checked with Chris and he asked to unpack and make pictures. Have checked and all seems okay, frame was packed really well indeed.

They did send me the wrong headset bearings... Anybody knows the correct size?

So far really happy with the paintjob and the quality of the frame. Will do a more thorough check in daylight tomorrow. Some first pictures:


July 21, 2021, 02:24:07 PM
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Re: single pivot or Horst link
I appreciate the replies.  Forgive me for being simple but I don't quite understand the charts and would love a bit of explanation on what is going on at a given point.

No problem, that's what a community is for :)

If you have general questions about what anti squat is, read this:
https://www.pinkbike.com/news/definitions-what-is-anti-squat.html

In short: When you accelerate by pushing into the pedals, your body's inertia will make the rear suspension squat. But at the same time, the chain pulls on the rear wheel, usually having the opposite effect of extending the rear suspension. That is called "anti squat". The percentage says how much of the inertia-squat is countered by the chain pull. 100% (in theory) means no movement in the rear suspension at all.

Yet, there are many things that play a role here. Two are probably the most important: Center of gravity and chain ring size. Generally, longer legs = higher COG = more squatting (leverage) = lower anti squat percentage. So "your" anti squat can be a bit higher or lower than the one in the graphs, but the curve will look the same. With chain rings, smaller ones have higher anti squat.

The rear cogs also play a role. Depending on the size of the chain ring, anti squat can vary greatly throughout the gears. The graphs show blue areas where all the gear's anti squat curves go through, from 10t to 50t.

Now, it's considered optimal to have around 100% anti squat at SAG point, since that's the travel you're in when pedaling. I've marked that point in all the graphs below. All the bikes here have falling anti squat curves, meaning that anti squat is lower when the bike is deeper in it's travel. Some bikes like the Propain Tyee (VPP) actually have a slightly rising anti squat curve. That can have the advantage that on steep climbs, when your weight is all the way back and the rear suspension is more compressed, you still have lots of anti squat. With bikes that have a falling curve, you may need to lean forward more, decompressing the rear end.

Looking at the graphs, the FM936 with 32t and the FM1001 with 30t should have the best pedaling characteristics. They both have about 95 percent anti squat at SAG in any gear. With the LCFS958, the anti squat with 32t is a bit low, and with a 30t it changes quite a lot with every gear.

But that's just what the graphs suggest. In the end, there are many other factors apart from those numbers. Where your COG is, how "clean" your pedaling technique is, how you weight your bike etc. ... So I'd take this with a pinch of salt. They're all not bad. I'd probably go with the Carbonda FM1001 though, but mostly because everyone seems to love the brand ;)

July 28, 2021, 01:44:00 AM
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Re: LCFS 917 - 120/120 mm - MTB










August 15, 2021, 02:09:47 PM
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Re: LCFS947 - 160mm 4-bar 27+/29 Finally completed the build. It took hella long time  8).
August 18, 2021, 04:03:46 AM
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