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Component Deals & Selection / Re: 256 Direct mount compatibility
« on: September 10, 2015, 05:33:52 AM »
Here are two pictures of my 256 bike with a SRAM S2 direct mount derailleur: the first picture with the derailleur position on the  outer chain wheel and the other picture with the derailleur in the inner tposition. Shifting is no problem at all. I am using SRAM chain wheels (39T/26T) on a Lightning crank. I have also used a Specialized crank with same good result.



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Component Deals & Selection / Re: 256 Direct mount compatibility
« on: March 10, 2015, 05:52:33 PM »
Now I have tested both S2 and S3 FD. Only S2 will fit if you want a good chainline. You could possible use some spacers between the S3 FD and the frame and long bolts, but the spacers must be so long that I am afraid it will reduce the FD performance.

Conclusion: use SRAM XX S2 bottom pull version.

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Component Deals & Selection / Re: 256 Direct mount compatibility
« on: November 27, 2014, 03:07:08 PM »
There are six different  SRAM XX S2 derailleurs: bottom and top pull of each of the three dimensions corresponding to the chain ring sizes, 39-26, 42-28 and (not so common) 45-30. I have not seen any model name. Each model is characterized by its features, e.g. SRAM XX FD S2, 39, bottom pull. The bottom pull is also often called down pull

The bolt distance is the same for S2 and S3: 21.7 mm. The measure 22.1 mm is the projection of the bolt distance om the perpendicular on the seat tube axis. This distance is also the same for the S2 and S3. This is why I think that the S3 FD also may fit the frame by just putting a 5 mm spacer between the frame and the mounting plate at the front hole. However, I have not tested the S3 on the frame.

S2 bottom pull is only available as XX, but the S3 bottom pull is also available as X0.

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Component Deals & Selection / Re: 256 Direct mount compatibility
« on: November 27, 2014, 01:22:48 AM »
The holes are not horizontal on my frames, but have a vertical offset of 5 mm. They looks similar to the geometry drawing and pictures that you posted yourself June 5, 2014, MTB2223, the third post in this thread: http://chinertown.com/index.php?topic=96.0

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Component Deals & Selection / Re: 256 Direct mount compatibility
« on: November 20, 2014, 03:40:33 PM »

Finally a received a direct mount SRAM front derailleur (S2, 39, down pull) and mounted it on my 256.
The verdict: A perfect match!

I have to find a rubber protection hose to prevent dirt from entering the hole.

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Component Deals & Selection / Re: 256 Direct mount compatibility
« on: October 27, 2014, 05:52:52 PM »
According to the SRAM XX Frame Fit Specification (https://sram-cdn-pull-zone-gsdesign.netdna-ssl.com/cdn/farfuture/Gx-ODVGbSsyBuBMS8-F21QKffpd9QqcQsrsg00Vq3U0/mtime:1380571047/sites/default/files/techdocs/xx_frame_fit_specifications_0.pdf) it seams  that the SRAM S2 FD could fit. The angels and distances on the right figure on page 4 (frame right side) looks identical to my frame and lowest right figure on page 5  indicates that the wire will run smoothly to the "Front Derailleur Cable Mounting Point". S3 has a sideways offset for the front bolt and will probably not fit so well without some extra spacer.

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Component Deals & Selection / Re: 256 Direct mount compatibility
« on: October 26, 2014, 05:42:22 PM »
Quote:
I'm using a Shimano FD-M785-E2 XT derailleur, which is a S2 model.
Because I didn't like the angle the FD cable makes with the frame, I went to the lbs for a SRAM solution, but there wasn't one.
...
End quote.

What exactly was the problem by using the SRAM low mount, down pull S2 or S3 FD?

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Component Deals & Selection / Re: 256 Direct mount compatibility
« on: October 22, 2014, 04:39:26 PM »
It is obviously not the S1  Low Direct Mount type you need because the bolt distance of your frame is 22.1 mm, while the S1 is used on frames with 42.7 mm bolt distance.

However, both the S2 and S3 types will fit a frame with 22.1 mm bolt distance. I am also going to put a SRAM Low Direct Mount FD on my 256 frame, but I am not sure if I shall use S2 or S3 type, or will both types fit if the 5 mm spacer on the bolts are either kept or removed?

If this is correct, what type should be used without the spacers, S2 or S3?

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