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Title: Ican p9 build 29er build
Post by: YEEPYEEP on December 20, 2018, 12:45:50 AM
Hello,
Been lurking around the forums and have decided to document my build. Previously had a 2016 Norco sight a7.2 and wanted to upgrade to a norco range. Down here in Australia, a norco range carbon frame with a shock is 3.4k AUD. Did abit of googling and found out about the ICAN p9, figured it was pretty much a norco range itself. Was a bit hesitant on the whole Chinese carbon thing and was going to buy a 2nd hand aluminium frame instead. Saw that Evolve bikes use the same frame, smashing it down whistler and surviving through those trails. I'll be fine here in Australia. There are afew good builds here on the website and this will ultimately just be another one. I'll try and note all my issues along the way.
SO.....
Ordered the frame on the 14th of December and received it yesterday (19/12/18). I'm 183cm , 80-82kg with gear and ordered a large frame.

The components thats gonna be on the bike are:

- 2016 lyrik rct3 27.5 fork with Luftkappe - its currently at 150mm.
- Cane Creek inline coil with a 500LB Valt spring - The bushings for the shocks are 22.2x8mm, this is for the top and the bottom...... update 2019: the bushings are 22x8mm the extra .2 cause for the supplied washers not to fit so that was my mistake!
- OEM headset - Will be using the supplied headset but will change to cane creek 40 in the future when it needs replacing.
- Shimano XT 1x11 shifter and rear derailleur
- E13 trs+ crankset with a 34T ring (also using e13 BSA BB)
- Sunrace 11-46 rear cassette
- Shimano XT dual piston brakes ( front and rear)
- Shimano XT Icetech Rotors 180mm (Front and rear)
- Brand X 150mm, 30.9 dropper post with a wolf tooth dropper remote.
- Currently do not have a bar or stem
- Hope DH rim 27.5 front and rear with hope pro 4 hubs. Waiting for boost adapters for the rear.
- Maxxis DHF 2.5wt Front
- Maxxis Griffin 2.3 DD rear. Not running tubeless as of yet for front and rear.

I know the frame is a 29er but i'm going to try my best to reuse most of my items and spend minimal $$$. The front will be 27.5 and the rear will be 27.5+. Hopefully down the track with some spare cash i'll go 29er wheels and fork. Ican has available the Super deluxe RC3 in 210x55, i really wanted the RCT air or the super deluxe coil but they have neither. I know some of the other guys have ran different rear shock sizes but even in Australia, theres barely any sizes ( 210x55 is still a oem size, rockshox/fox says that orders are coming through next year for dealers). I've had a CC inline air on the norco sight and it was fantastic, just wanted to see what the fuss is about coil. DVO topaz air/coil was available but its 790AUD without mounting hardware or spring ( extra 70AUD for mounting and 100? for spring). Kind of wanted a coil with a piggyback but its just too expensive for me right now(Cane creek Coil CS is 899AUD). Fox DPX2 and DPS are both 799 AUD so a bit out of the $ range so i settled with the CC coil IL for 600AUD. The front fork is currently at 150mm, the recommended is 150-160mm for 29 wheels. If i'm using 27.5 wheels, what would be the recommended fork length now?

This build will take sometime as its christmas time and funds aren't readily available. I'll try and keep this forum updated as much as possible.





Title: Re: Ican p9 build 27.5
Post by: Sitar_Ned on December 21, 2018, 09:59:43 AM
Looking forward to following the build, YEEP! Solid choices for frame and components imo
Title: Re: Ican p9 build 27.5
Post by: YEEPYEEP on December 21, 2018, 12:11:56 PM
Looking forward to following the build, YEEP! Solid choices for frame and components imo

Will try my best to keep this updated! Reading other threads about the low bb height and now looking for possible BB protectors. Was gonna go the tire route but want something abit cleaner. Found out about kydex, just scared that if i heat the kydex to 250 and put it on to mold that it will do something to the carbon resin. Can anyone chime in on this?
Title: Re: Ican p9 build 27.5
Post by: YEEPYEEP on December 27, 2018, 09:56:06 PM
little update....

Hope everyone had a nice christmas. Been waiting for parts to come in from chain reactions and still deciding on the whole 29er route. Gonna still be abit busy for the next week or so but heres a quick mock up of the bike so far. A problem that came up is the bolt spacers for the shock doesn't fit( specifically the lower, top is fine). Going to have to go to a bolt master to find 0.1mm smaller. Will hopefully continue in the next few days.

Title: Re: Ican p9 build 27.5
Post by: YEEPYEEP on December 30, 2018, 07:35:27 AM
Spent the whole day putting the bike together. Missing the 180mm post adapter for the front and rear, also waiting for the rear boost spacers. Still on the lookout for 29 rims and forks.
Title: Re: Ican p9 build 27.5
Post by: emu26 on December 30, 2018, 08:09:11 PM
Hi Yeep, did you get hit for GST bringing the frame in?  I haven't imported over $100 since the rules changed.

Thanks
Title: Re: Ican p9 build 27.5
Post by: YEEPYEEP on December 30, 2018, 10:57:53 PM
Hi Yeep, did you get hit for GST bringing the frame in?  I haven't imported over $100 since the rules changed.

Thanks
I didn't get charged gst amazingly. Just ordered a new fork the bike, might not be so lucky this time round
Title: Re: Ican p9 build 27.5
Post by: emu26 on December 31, 2018, 12:44:58 AM
Seems to be a bit hit and miss at the moment. Some of the bigger european online shops claim they are including GST but I'm not sure how that is working either.
Title: Re: Ican p9 build 29er build
Post by: YEEPYEEP on January 02, 2019, 07:54:24 PM
Update....
The whole 27.5 idea didn't last too long. Was scared that the bottom backet is too low with the 27.5 wheels and i may as well try the whole 29er thing. Was just browsing around for forks that were under the 8-900aud mark. Some options that came up were used 2016-2018 fox 36s, pikes and lyricks ( please remeber i'm located in australia). I Really wanted to try something different, also bang for buck and what came up were xfusion and sr suntour. Forks such as manitou, marzohhi, dvo, mrp, cc helm, ohlins are all above the 1k mark when including taxes and shipping. Somehow came across the sale on the suntour website and got a sr suntour durolux 29er for 525usd shipped to Aus. Also had to also buy a boost chain ring as the ring now is a wee bit close to the chainstay. Will pop on the 27.5 wheels with adaptors on for now but will be on the look out for 29er wheels. 


 
Title: Re: Ican p9 build 29er build
Post by: emu26 on January 03, 2019, 12:39:23 AM
Please measure bb height with the 27.5 wheels on.  I know what you mean about the price of forks, I have been looking at a new frame for a while now everything has become so expensive down under.  Just missed a few good deals on sydney mtb face book page  for some 2nd hand forks but the well priced stuff goes so quickly.
Title: Re: Ican p9 build 29er build
Post by: YEEPYEEP on January 03, 2019, 05:14:40 AM
Please measure bb height with the 27.5 wheels on.  I know what you mean about the price of forks, I have been looking at a new frame for a while now everything has become so expensive down under.  Just missed a few good deals on sydney mtb face book page  for some 2nd hand forks but the well priced stuff goes so quickly.

Will measure the height when the spacers come in :). Small world, I'm on the page as well. Selling the Lyrik as we speak. Might sell the wheels as well.
Title: Re: Ican p9 build 29er build
Post by: YEEPYEEP on January 06, 2019, 03:22:33 AM
Just got some used 29 Dt swiss m1900 30mm ID wheels. Got them for 380aud with tyres already tubeless( dhf front, aggressor rear). Might get some fancy wheels later. Still waiting for fork and boost ring to come in, also had to buy a rear thru axle from ican.
Also bought a piece of kydex to make a downtube protector, still abit scared that the heat from the kydex may destroy the carbon resin but i may just put alot of paper/tea towels. Will take lots of photos during the process....
Title: Re: Ican p9 build 29er build
Post by: YEEPYEEP on January 09, 2019, 10:49:06 PM
Still waiting for parts........ But decided to do the small gritty stuff for the bike. Bought 1m of 3M vinyl for the bike. Only did the top,head and down tube. For the chain stay, i'll most likely use a old tyre. Decided to do the kydex even though i was scared it would destroy the carbon.  1st attempt i measured about 12cm across and about 30cm long. Accidentally left the kydex in the oven for too long and it kind of shrunk the kydex. 2nd attempt i only cut it about 7cm across and 25cm length. I know this doesn't cover the sides of the down tube but it's impossible to have a smooth product due to the bend( or maybe i'm just bad). The product didn't turn out oem like but its close enough for me and it'll do the job. Will just need to sand the edges. p.s YES the carbon did heat up abit but not so hot that i had to worry !!!!!. The kydex was heated at 170'c for 3 mintues, i found this the best temperature to mold.
Title: Re: Ican p9 build 29er build
Post by: YEEPYEEP on January 21, 2019, 02:21:26 AM
Been waiting for parts and i do have majority of them. Waiting on some small 3m stickers and need double sided tape/zip ties to hold the down tube protector. But for now its looking good.
I didn't get to measure the bb height for the 27.5 but for 29 wheels it's currently at 347mm( from the ground to the middle of crank bolt). P.s buying the boost ring did help alot. More clearance just for insurance.

Initial impressions
Just from riding around the street, this thing is going to fly, feels alot more stable then the norco sight( the p9 has a more "updated" geometry). The coil so far feels very planted and it doesn't feel as heavy as everyone makes it out to be(this also isn't a weight weenies build). The durolux feels sooo good and i have't put any oil in them yet. I'll make another post once i've taken it to the tracks but so far so good!

Parts on the bike as of today:
- Ican p9 Large frame
- Dt swiss m1900 29 boost wheels
- Maxxis DHF 2.5 wt front, Maxxis aggressor 2.3 rear ( both are tubeless )
- Sr suntour durloux 29 boost RC2-PCS fork - 160mm
- Cane creek inline coil - 210x55, 2.25x500 valt spring
- Nukeproof black horizon stem , 50mm, 31.8mm
- Nukeproof seat 34.9 clamp (copper colour)
- Nukeproof Horizon saddle( copper rails)
- Nukeproof Horizon Riser Bar Copper, 780mm, 31.8mm, 25mm rise
- Nukeproof Horizon pedals( black)
- E-thirteen BSA BB
- E-thirteen TRS+ 170mm crank with 32T Boost ring
- Brand x 150mm 30.9 dropper post with Wolf Tooth Dropper remote
- Shimano XT BR-M8020 Front and rear brakes
- Shimano 180mm ice tech rotors
- Shimano XT 11 derailleur
- Sunrace 11-46 cassette
- KMC X11EL 11 Speed Chain Gold
- ODI Rogue Lock-On (black)


Title: Re: Ican p9 build 29er build
Post by: Verbl Kint on January 29, 2019, 10:29:25 PM
Bike looks hot!  How does she ride?

EDIT:

Did you choose to get a shorter offset fork?  I saw on the CAD drawings that the recommended offset was 42mm.
Title: Re: Ican p9 build 29er build
Post by: YEEPYEEP on February 03, 2019, 06:29:25 AM
Bike looks hot!  How does she ride?

EDIT:

Did you choose to get a shorter offset fork?  I saw on the CAD drawings that the recommended offset was 42mm.

Thanks!! think the bike turned out really well. Had 2 rides so far and the 1st was horrible ahaha. I had too much psi and was using about 40% of the forks travel. Currently running 60 psi with 1 volume spacer and the front fork feels alot better! still tuning the suspension but so far so good. I must say that i really enjoy the 29 wheels, yes i lose that playful flick but i enjoy the feel of going over bumps like nothing! I'll use the term planted for this bike, could also be the addition of the rear coil. The bike climbs amazingly well, on par to my norco sight i reckon. I can't go into too much detail  of geometry of the bike due to being new to this sport.

I also went into panic mode when i saw the 42mm offset as i ordered a 51mm, till this day i'm still not sure which is correct...... i've got 2 files from ican and one showed 42 as you said and another was 51. I honestly don't know how it will affect the head angles and heights etc but just from the feel of the bike at the moment i can't complain one bit (was reading on forums that alot of the geometry specs on the p9 are not what is says??? maybe someone can chime in).

Also had a annoying squeak, thought it was the cane creek coil. Turned out that the bearing on the rear triangle was dry as hell. All fixed with abit of grease 8). Still nervous about riding a carbon bike especially after a alloy one. The down tube protector i made makes the bike makes it feel alot safer. Components aside, i really do enjoy this frame. It climbs well and descends like a dream. I don't have any experience with alot of bikes and wish i could give you alot of detail into how the bike ride but for now this is the best thing ever :D :D. I was thinking of making a short youtube video of me explaining the bike, my components and how the bike feels from a beginner ( my typing is fairly bad  ;D)

Title: Re: Ican p9 build 29er build
Post by: YEEPYEEP on April 23, 2019, 08:16:38 PM
Update ride impression......
So i've been riding the bike for about 2-3 months now and have a solid feel for the bike. Been riding this setup (Ican p9 + 29er boost wheels + 51mm offset durolux fork 160mm) for the majority of the time and can say that it's just a rocket. If you are the rider who likes to go super dooper fast then i highly recommend this setup. The rear coil just plants the bike on any track and if you like this kind of riding, id recommend a rear coil.

After riding it for a few weeks i started to understand what i riding style i like and its more towards the poppy/playful feel. To help me with this i switched to the 27.5 wheels. My 27.5 wheels are non boost, had to get adapters and dish the wheels to centre them. So now the setup is 29er 51mm fork 160mm with a 27.5 wheels. The bottom bracket dropped about 15mm or so ( 332mm bb) and i was scared that it wouldn't clear anything. Throwing the 27.5 wheels on i felt more comfortable and more in control. The 29er wheels felt big, big enough for me not to feel confident when leaning into turns. I would like to try a air shock to see if that helps with making the bike more playful( i bought the inline coil believing i would mess with all those dials but i really didn't). Looking into the suntour tri air but they only have 210x50, not sure if theres a big difference between that and 210x55. Or i might pull the plug on a super deluxe rct, fox dpx2 or dvo topaz t3.



Title: Re: Ican p9 build 29er build
Post by: emu26 on April 24, 2019, 07:11:27 PM
Are the 27.5's plus or not?
Title: Re: Ican p9 build 29er build
Post by: YEEPYEEP on April 25, 2019, 10:57:31 PM
Are the 27.5's plus or not?
27.5 wheels are orignally non plus.
Title: Re: Ican p9 build 29er build
Post by: emu26 on April 26, 2019, 02:02:47 AM
Not sure if the rims will take it or not but if you go to plus then you'll pick up a little more BB clearance.
Title: Re: Ican p9 build 29er build
Post by: Sitar_Ned on April 26, 2019, 08:28:19 AM
Digging that coil shock, you selling it when you replace it with air?
Title: Re: Ican p9 build 29er build
Post by: YEEPYEEP on April 29, 2019, 02:32:21 AM
Not sure if the rims will take it or not but if you go to plus then you'll pick up a little more BB clearance.

yeah the rims probably won't. ID of the hope dh rims are like 27mm so i the wt 2.5 maxxis is probably solid.

Digging that coil shock, you selling it when you replace it with air?

Might keep it, heard we are getting some Graviy tracks soon.
Title: Re: Ican p9 build 29er build
Post by: scourge on June 28, 2019, 01:41:16 AM
I love this bike. Nice job.
Title: Re: Ican p9 build 29er build
Post by: YEEPYEEP on July 10, 2019, 10:47:59 PM
I love this bike. Nice job.
  Thanks!! Bought a Rockshox Superdeluxe RCT air and might install that in the incoming weeks. Will update with the whole air vs coil debate ;D.
Title: Re: Ican p9 build 29er build
Post by: Sack87 on July 27, 2019, 09:16:30 PM
What kind of trails do you ride mate? I'm looking to build one of these up in the next few weeks but I'm not sure if it will hold up to the abuse I will dish out

I'm over in Perth and ride a lot of the stuff Sam Hill rides so it needs to be fairly burly for a carbon frame.

Cheers, Brendon
Title: Re: Ican p9 build 29er build
Post by: YEEPYEEP on September 10, 2019, 05:52:00 PM
What kind of trails do you ride mate? I'm looking to build one of these up in the next few weeks but I'm not sure if it will hold up to the abuse I will dish out

I'm over in Perth and ride a lot of the stuff Sam Hill rides so it needs to be fairly burly for a carbon frame.

Cheers, Brendon

Hey Brendon, sorry for the slow reply. I've been doing blue/black runs and think this maybe abit overkill for my riding style and liking. This geometry i believe would suit you perfectly if your going to be riding trails like sam hill. Jordan boostmaster on youtube is sponsored by evolve bikes( which use ican p9 frame) and his doing whistler runs so i'm sure it'll survive perth. Keep us posted if you have already built the bike!
Title: Re: Ican p9 build 29er build
Post by: Sack87 on September 11, 2019, 09:42:23 PM
What kind of trails do you ride mate? I'm looking to build one of these up in the next few weeks but I'm not sure if it will hold up to the abuse I will dish out

I'm over in Perth and ride a lot of the stuff Sam Hill rides so it needs to be fairly burly for a carbon frame.

Cheers, Brendon

Hey Brendon, sorry for the slow reply. I've been doing blue/black runs and think this maybe abit overkill for my riding style and liking. This geometry i believe would suit you perfectly if your going to be riding trails like sam hill. Jordan boostmaster on youtube is sponsored by evolve bikes( which use ican p9 frame) and his doing whistler runs so i'm sure it'll survive perth. Keep us posted if you have already built the bike!

That's good to hear man. I've almost finished building it up, should be ready this weekend for its maiden voyage.
Title: Re: Ican p9 build 29er build
Post by: YEEPYEEP on September 16, 2019, 04:33:48 AM
What kind of trails do you ride mate? I'm looking to build one of these up in the next few weeks but I'm not sure if it will hold up to the abuse I will dish out

I'm over in Perth and ride a lot of the stuff Sam Hill rides so it needs to be fairly burly for a carbon frame.

Cheers, Brendon

Hey Brendon, sorry for the slow reply. I've been doing blue/black runs and think this maybe abit overkill for my riding style and liking. This geometry i believe would suit you perfectly if your going to be riding trails like sam hill. Jordan boostmaster on youtube is sponsored by evolve bikes( which use ican p9 frame) and his doing whistler runs so i'm sure it'll survive perth. Keep us posted if you have already built the bike!

That's good to hear man. I've almost finished building it up, should be ready this weekend for its maiden voyage.

Post some photos!
Title: Re: Ican p9 build 29er build
Post by: Sack87 on September 18, 2019, 05:51:27 PM
What kind of trails do you ride mate? I'm looking to build one of these up in the next few weeks but I'm not sure if it will hold up to the abuse I will dish out

I'm over in Perth and ride a lot of the stuff Sam Hill rides so it needs to be fairly burly for a carbon frame.

Cheers, Brendon

Hey Brendon, sorry for the slow reply. I've been doing blue/black runs and think this maybe abit overkill for my riding style and liking. This geometry i believe would suit you perfectly if your going to be riding trails like sam hill. Jordan boostmaster on youtube is sponsored by evolve bikes( which use ican p9 frame) and his doing whistler runs so i'm sure it'll survive perth. Keep us posted if you have already built the bike!

That's good to hear man. I've almost finished building it up, should be ready this weekend for its maiden voyage.

Post some photos!

Check my fresh build thread mate
Title: Re: Ican p9 build 29er build
Post by: YEEPYEEP on October 24, 2019, 05:04:59 PM
Ican p9 29er Update..

I've had about 6 or months now on the p9 and i can still recommend this bike to anyone who is looking into the tenduro travel range. For the Price its hard to beat and the geometry of the bike is up to date. The frame pedals fairly well considering the travel (also have the rear lockout on) but on the downhill is where it shines. Rear chain stay isn't so short where i have trouble balancing hence it's super stable. Frame is similar the giant reign/norco range where it favours the dh and doesn't do so bad uphill. I've installed the super deluce rct shock on the bike and have kept it on ever since. The Coil was fantastic and going through rock gardens was a breeze but i wanted the bike to feel abit more "lively" and bike to be more progressive for my riding style. The airshock is more predicatable and I know what's happening on the rear meanwhile the coil is just eats up everything(not a bad thing either!). The p9 Frame has given me no issues thus far, Bearings are still going smooth and no cracks in the frame. Ican's service has been great, contacted them multiple times for bearing sizes, torques specs etc and get a response within afew hours.
Title: Re: Ican p9 build 29er build
Post by: Bos on January 06, 2020, 11:00:04 PM
Hi there. Awesome build.
I'm about to pull the trigger on a P9 after owning a P8 for two years but having had it stolen, I'm replacing it with big brother P9. The seatqngle on my P8 was just a bit to slack, I'm 6ft but my legs seem longer than most. The effective seat angle therefore gets pretty slack. Can you comment on that? Also, ICAN offers a 2017 RS Super delux RT3. I'm considering this. They come in Medium compression/ rebound tune. Any Idea what yours are?
Title: Re: Ican p9 build 29er build
Post by: YEEPYEEP on March 17, 2020, 11:47:38 AM
Hi there. Awesome build.
I'm about to pull the trigger on a P9 after owning a P8 for two years but having had it stolen, I'm replacing it with big brother P9. The seatqngle on my P8 was just a bit to slack, I'm 6ft but my legs seem longer than most. The effective seat angle therefore gets pretty slack. Can you comment on that? Also, ICAN offers a 2017 RS Super delux RT3. I'm considering this. They come in Medium compression/ rebound tune. Any Idea what yours are?

Hey Bos, not too sure about the p8 angle but the p9 felt fine with me. i'm 6,1 and felt the uphill pedals were fine. I was also considering the rt3 that ican offers but decided to go for coil instead. Now that i have the super deluxe rct, i would recommend it over the rt3. The adjustable LSC is a awesome addition to the shock.  Sorry for the Late response.
Title: Re: Ican p9 build 29er build
Post by: Icyseanfitz on June 29, 2020, 09:17:58 AM
debating building a p9 up, do you still use it? any major issues with the frame since owning it? how have the bearings and linkage etc. held up? I am 6 foot and looking for a bike that feels big and long, how does the bike feel to you, specifically when you had 29er wheels on?
Title: Re: Ican p9 build 29er build
Post by: YEEPYEEP on June 30, 2020, 10:40:01 AM
debating building a p9 up, do you still use it? any major issues with the frame since owning it? how have the bearings and linkage etc. held up? I am 6 foot and looking for a bike that feels big and long, how does the bike feel to you, specifically when you had 29er wheels on?

Hey mate! Still on the p9. I've had no issues so far with the frame, linkages and bearings still intact and greased. Bike feels great with the 29er wheels, typical 29 characteristics where it just rolls over everything. If there was more gnarly tracks, i'd go 29 wheels with a rear coil shock. I'm 6 ft 1 and this frame is perfect, i was also able to test the 2020 nukeproof mega alloy and that bike feels abit more planted. The seat tube on the p9 is abit outdated compared to the nukeproof so obviously the climbing was abit nicer though when going downhill, they're both good. I'm still not sure what offset to put on the p9, sack87 and myself are running 51mm but the files said 42/44.

I've put my name down for the santa cruz frame group buy, honestly no issues with the p9. Just wanna try the santa cruz suspension platform.
Title: Re: Ican p9 build 29er build
Post by: Icyseanfitz on June 30, 2020, 01:42:22 PM
id take it 51mm would increase the wheelbase? i like longer bikes so thats what i would probably put on it too. Think ill get one and keep my name down for the chanta cruz whenever they get finalized. As for the p9, id go with 29er wheels, then I am thinking a cane creek coil shock with a lockout and a progressive coil, put some -1 degree offset bushings in to slacken the head angle a little, then sticking a 170mm fork onto it (lyrik or 36 although i am sucker for manitou).
Title: Re: Ican p9 build 29er build
Post by: Icyseanfitz on June 30, 2020, 04:48:59 PM
How is climbing on the p9? Crap?
Title: Re: Ican p9 build 29er build
Post by: endo.alley on June 30, 2020, 08:13:13 PM
I am considering switching from 51 mm to 42mm offset for my P9. 42mm will shorten the wheel base  but increase trail on the front end. Which will add a little to high speed stability while descending. 51mm offset 29er fork on the P9 is quick maneuvering. I prefer stability at high speed more than quick turning at slow speed. So I may switch forks. I wish the P9 had a normal headset so that I could use an angleset to slacken it ever so slightly. But the integrated headset won't allow an Angleset.
Title: Re: Ican p9 build 29er build
Post by: Icyseanfitz on July 01, 2020, 02:36:36 AM
I've used offset bushings before and they work.
Title: Re: Ican p9 build 29er build
Post by: YEEPYEEP on July 01, 2020, 09:54:31 AM
How is climbing on the p9? Crap?

p9 climbing isn't that bad (much better on the nukeproof), my only gripe is that the bb is tad low on the p9 so plenty of pedal strikes ( or i'm just a shit rider LOL!). Can't go wrong with any of the forks honestly. Enjoyed the lyrik with luftkappe and really want to try the new lyrick rc2's. The sr suntour durolux has given me no qualms, excellent fork for the price! I'm a sucker for that DVO green, might try their suspension one day if its on sale.
Title: Re: Ican p9 build 29er build
Post by: Bos on September 14, 2020, 03:40:35 AM
Hi there. Awesome build.
I'm about to pull the trigger on a P9 after owning a P8 for two years but having had it stolen, I'm replacing it with big brother P9. The seatqngle on my P8 was just a bit to slack, I'm 6ft but my legs seem longer than most. The effective seat angle therefore gets pretty slack. Can you comment on that? Also, ICAN offers a 2017 RS Super delux RT3. I'm considering this. They come in Medium compression/ rebound tune. Any Idea what yours are?

Hey Bos, not too sure about the p8 angle but the p9 felt fine with me. i'm 6,1 and felt the uphill pedals were fine. I was also considering the rt3 that ican offers but decided to go for coil instead. Now that i have the super deluxe rct, i would recommend it over the rt3. The adjustable LSC is a awesome addition to the shock.  Sorry for the Late response.

Ive had about 6 months on my P9. Im seriously happy. Its not a rocket uphill, but I'm not sure many 6'' bikes are. Ive got a fairly lightweight build, with Maxxis 2.5 inch 29er rubber. That stuff at 1kg a pop will take the zip out of most bikes. However not unhappy at all.

My question is about the tune of the rear shock. I know on my Pervious bike a ICAN P8, that going from a firm to a light tune made a massive difference. the one felt harsh on rocky rooty downhills while the light just sucked it to the ground and bumps dissapeared. It was a FOX DPS though. My new shock is a RS Deluxe RT3 with Medium tune, which is what Ican reccommended, but I'm 72kg's and about 160lbs, and Im wondering if Its the shock, or the tune.

These shocks are aparently not that straightforward to do a light tune on. Unless my tuning shop doesn't know what they're talking about.

Anyone have a medium tuned Rear airshock?
Title: Re: Ican p9 build 29er build
Post by: BoomerE36 on September 15, 2020, 03:15:42 PM
Awesome build!

Mind giving an idea of the total cost?

I am trying to start something similar with the P9 frame but keep the build around $2k USD
Title: Re: Ican p9 build 29er build
Post by: Icyseanfitz on September 16, 2020, 02:04:40 PM
Anyone got any ideas for a downtube/bb protector?
Title: Re: Ican p9 build 29er build
Post by: chetosmachine on September 17, 2020, 03:01:55 AM
I have a set from dyedbro for general protection & decoration on my P9.

https://www.dyedbro.com/collections/frame-protection

Title: Re: Ican p9 build 29er build
Post by: Denys on September 18, 2020, 04:06:30 PM
I wraped everything that needed with 3M Scotch 2228. Pretty Happy with it.
Title: Re: Ican p9 build 29er build
Post by: carbonazza on September 18, 2020, 04:31:35 PM
...3M Scotch 2228...
Is the glue of the tape that sticky ? Doesn't it peel or move after a few months ?
Title: Re: Ican p9 build 29er build
Post by: Denys on September 19, 2020, 03:38:33 AM
In my opinion its the Same as Marsh guard slapper tape. Buta Lot cheaper. Never had issue on my previous Bike for 2 years. Just make Sure the surface is cleaned Well with Isopropanol or Something Like this. The only thing that i cant answer is how easy or hard is to remove that Tape of the Bike  ;D
Title: Re: Ican p9 build 29er build
Post by: Icyseanfitz on September 19, 2020, 10:46:43 AM
I'm thinking something more heavy duty than 3m tape down around the bottom bracket area, I could just use an old tyre or tube but as I'm going fairly high end with this build I was wondering if anything nicer was about.
Title: Re: Ican p9 build 29er build
Post by: YEEPYEEP on September 21, 2020, 09:51:50 AM
Hey Bos, not too sure about the p8 angle but the p9 felt fine with me. i'm 6,1 and felt the uphill pedals were fine. I was also considering the rt3 that ican offers but decided to go for coil instead. Now that i have the super deluxe rct, i would recommend it over the rt3. The adjustable LSC is a awesome addition to the shock.  Sorry for the Late response.


Ive had about 6 months on my P9. Im seriously happy. Its not a rocket uphill, but I'm not sure many 6'' bikes are. Ive got a fairly lightweight build, with Maxxis 2.5 inch 29er rubber. That stuff at 1kg a pop will take the zip out of most bikes. However not unhappy at all.

My question is about the tune of the rear shock. I know on my Pervious bike a ICAN P8, that going from a firm to a light tune made a massive difference. the one felt harsh on rocky rooty downhills while the light just sucked it to the ground and bumps dissapeared. It was a FOX DPS though. My new shock is a RS Deluxe RT3 with Medium tune, which is what Ican reccommended, but I'm 72kg's and about 160lbs, and Im wondering if Its the shock, or the tune.

These shocks are aparently not that straightforward to do a light tune on. Unless my tuning shop doesn't know what they're talking about.

Anyone have a medium tuned Rear airshock?
I'm on the air rockshox deluxe, cant really comment on what tunes etc. Have a friend just put a megneg on so i'm hoping to give that a ride soon.
Title: Re: Ican p9 build 29er build
Post by: YEEPYEEP on September 21, 2020, 09:52:53 AM
Anyone got any ideas for a downtube/bb protector?
Still using the kydex mould that i made, has saved my frame from being destroyed afew times !
Title: Re: Ican p9 build 29er build
Post by: YEEPYEEP on September 21, 2020, 09:58:46 AM
Awesome build!

Mind giving an idea of the total cost?

I am trying to start something similar with the P9 frame but keep the build around $2k USD

New and used items, prices are in Aud.

Frame - 1000aud new
fork -700aud new
rearshock - 400used
wheels - 300 used
tyres - 150 new p.s using the michelin enduros and they are bloody sick!!!
groupset - 400 new
brakes - 350 new
dropper- 150 new
handle bar/stem - 150 new
total = 3600 aud = 2600usd

can easily hit around the 2k mark with more used items or different tier items.
Title: Re: Ican p9 build 29er build
Post by: Icyseanfitz on September 21, 2020, 11:22:26 AM
Still using the kydex mould that i made, has saved my frame from being destroyed afew times !

how did you make it? buy a sheet of Kydex and then?
Title: Re: Ican p9 build 29er build
Post by: YEEPYEEP on September 21, 2020, 07:26:24 PM
how did you make it? buy a sheet of Kydex and then?

i explained it on the 1st page of this thread :)
Title: Re: Ican p9 build 29er build
Post by: Icyseanfitz on September 22, 2020, 01:39:46 PM
Sorry  :-[ I'm an idiot
Title: Re: Ican p9 build 29er build
Post by: BoomerE36 on September 22, 2020, 05:40:16 PM
I'm 183cm , 80-82kg with gear and ordered a large frame.

I am 188 CM and 95KG weight, would you recommend to go XL?

I saw the P9 sold somewhere in XL size but definitely not on ICAN's website.
Title: Re: Ican p9 build 29er build
Post by: YEEPYEEP on September 22, 2020, 09:24:44 PM
Sorry  :-[ I'm an idiot
shoot us a message if you need any help!
Title: Re: Ican p9 build 29er build
Post by: YEEPYEEP on September 22, 2020, 09:28:18 PM
I am 188 CM and 95KG weight, would you recommend to go XL?

I saw the P9 sold somewhere in XL size but definitely not on ICAN's website.

Never seen a XL frame for the p9. Think Large was the biggest size they have and reach is 462. Id say that it would be a tad small for you seeing as medium bikes these days are at 460-470.
Title: Re: Ican p9 build 29er build
Post by: stefanyo on September 02, 2021, 01:39:18 PM
Hi,

Any idea on the measurement of the headtube? Does P9 has the IS41/28.6 upper and IS52/40 bottom diameters?
Title: Re: Ican p9 build 29er build
Post by: YEEPYEEP on September 06, 2021, 01:28:08 AM
Hi,

Any idea on the measurement of the headtube? Does P9 has the IS41/28.6 upper and IS52/40 bottom diameters?

Sorry Mate, can't check as i've sold the bike.
Title: Re: Ican p9 build 29er build
Post by: stefanyo on September 09, 2021, 03:53:37 PM
No worries Yeep,

Did your frame comes with cable guides for internal cabling?
Title: Re: Ican p9 build 29er build
Post by: YEEPYEEP on September 10, 2021, 10:07:46 AM
No worries Yeep,

Did your frame comes with cable guides for internal cabling?

Don't think there was
Title: Re: Ican p9 build 29er build
Post by: Icyseanfitz on September 10, 2021, 05:52:29 PM
P9 is a 42 bottom 52 upper headset
Title: Re: Ican p9 build 29er build
Post by: endo.alley on November 17, 2021, 11:38:37 AM
P9 is a 42 bottom 52 upper headset

I have a P9 that I would love to slacken head angle a little. Does anybody know if this (IS42/IS52 variation) might work to do so?

https://9point8.ca/collections/slack-r-kits/100mm