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29er / Re: FM1002 / FM1166 - 150mm frame
« on: May 12, 2024, 12:59:22 AM »
This thread has slowed down!  Anyone riding their FM1001 or FM1166 bikes?  I've have about 50 miles on mine tooling around while trying to avoid icy snow. I am looking forward to taking it out on some more challenging rides when spring arrives.

I am loving mine still, the slack head angle has saved me from going over the handlebars many times now. Love taking it down everything from chunky tech to mellow XC riding.

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29er / Re: FM1002 / FM1166 - 150mm frame
« on: November 22, 2023, 12:00:10 AM »
2023 on Lyric 160 mm travel is listed as 571mm,  One mm less than the 572 listed on the frame geometries.

2023 Zeb 160mm is listed as 576mm (confirming your post), 170 Zeb is 596mm.

I try to consider what the delta of a longer or shorter fork does to the seat tube angle besides the change in HT angle.  I think that a 170 fork would put my seat farther back and I wouldn't have as much weight forward as I would like for the types of climbing I do.   

Large frame isn't too large for me.  Medium is definitely too small. 

My bad it's ~571, editted my last post.
In your situation I agree the 170 Zeb might affect steep climbing.
The 160mm lyrik is a great fork, I wish 170 was still an option.
If you are lightweight and do a lot climbing, maybe go with lyrik.

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29er / Re: FM1002 / FM1166 - 150mm frame
« on: November 21, 2023, 09:20:48 PM »
Can you clarify what generation RS forks you are referring to?   Older Lyriks that had a travel range of 150 to 170 or the latest 2023/2024 Lyrik that has a travel range of 140 to 160mm.
Note too that the previous generation has a 42mm offset versus the latest generation is 44mm   (Yes, I know there is a 51mm version offset too.)

The Zeb is a heavier duty fork having 36mm tubes versus Lyrik's 35mm.  Plus a weight increase of over 200 grams for the Zeb.   Reviews and posted comments are all over the place regarding which fork performs better.   Most comment that it depends on the rider's weight and the types of terrain you ride on.   

I just double checked, the difference between this generation and the last generation is not much and the 64.5 degree head angle is with a 572 fork.

- The new 160mm Lyrik is about 571
- My 170mm Lyrik is 581
- The new 160mm Zeb 576


I would recommend overforking, especially if the bike is on the bigger side for you. If you can get a 170mm Lyrik, I love mine and I only wish for a Zeb when doing a lot of downhill.

 My 170mm Lyrik is 581 long puts my large frame at 64.1 degree head angle and it climbs well. Definitely could be more slack before I lose pedal efficiency.

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29er / Re: FM1002 / FM1166 - 150mm frame
« on: November 21, 2023, 10:39:06 AM »
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Mounted the DPX2, fresh take off of a Spec. Enduro.
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Nice I also used an DPX2 Enduro take off. Kinda wish I had the Float X instead.

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What 205 X 60 shock are you going to use?   
What fork?  150 or 160 travel?
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For front end, the frame is not actually spec'd for 150, it is for 160-sh. IIRC, A 160mm lyric is shorter than the recommend fork length and a 160mm Zeb is a little over the specified fork length. I would do a 160-170mm Zeb.
For rear end,  air shocks will work best according the insanityOfGravity linkage check post. If I could pick, I would get the Float X with a standard tune and add a bigger spacer in it.

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29er / Re: FM1002 / FM1166 - 150mm frame
« on: November 06, 2023, 03:48:40 PM »
500 for this frame seems like a steal, I'm jealous of you both.

For 29er fork options, look at the axle to crown measurement, not the travel.  I have 170mm Lyrik and that puts my head angle at 64.1 degrees. If I had a 170mm Zeb I would be closer to ~63.6 degrees.

Did someone have an issue fitting an FSA headset?

Ritchey makes a headset that fits too, I've been using the Ritchey upper and Carbonda lower with no problems


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is it just me or does the reach seem super short on this frame.  i have looked at it a few times as i am looking for a DH bike and i am a big fan of lightcarbon.  the geo just seems so far off all the current DH bikes.  unless i am missing something.

Looking at the picture, the reach is too short, but more precisely, the seat is too far forward. On A DH bike the seat should be as low as possible. In that position, the bottom bracket is pretty far behind the rider. Far from ideal!

From what I can tell, most DH bikes have the end of the seat tube, directly above the bottom bracket, this bike is pushing beyond that hard limit


Yeah, somethings up with that reach. I have no idea what I'm talking about with DH bikes


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29er / Re: LCFS948 - a new enduro from Light Carbon
« on: September 19, 2023, 04:30:00 PM »
wondering if they didn't do the design or manufacturing for scor?

I don't think that is likely. Scor was founded by bike designers  breaking away from another company. Also, the front triangle, rear triangle and the shock linkage are different with light carbon frames being more boxy in general.

 More likely, the VPP design is free to copy and Light Carbon already has experience building bikes with suspension running through forked seat tubes.

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Metal Frames / Re: Custom Waltly Titanium 29er
« on: September 18, 2023, 12:09:21 PM »
Those of you who have gone through the design process with Waltly, how difficult is getting some modern geo? I would love a TI hardtail similar to the Marin San Quentin or El Roy, but I am totally new to bike design.

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29er / Re: LCFS948 - a new enduro from Light Carbon
« on: September 17, 2023, 09:59:21 PM »
I like the modern geo and a new interesting bike. For me the VPP suspension is a wildcard. I hope it's well done and fun to ride.

To me, the suspension being overly complex is not a plus. I just want poppy progressive rear suspension.

This bike is very long, but I'd want to overfork it anyway
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Also, any testing or riding video? Is this another frame with bad tolerances making it unrideable?

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29er / Re: Carbonda FM 1003 / Flybike FM 1266 180mm "Super Enduro"
« on: August 29, 2023, 03:28:18 PM »
Any more experience with this frame?   I see that ICAN is making a version called the X17.  Not sure on pricing.  Anyone have this set up as a dual crown bike?
A few good reviews so far. Nothing negative on the Carbonda version. No one has dual-crowned on this forum but it fits according to Carbonda. Zero info about the ICAN frame besides catalog and web page.

Where can I order the FM 1003/ ICAN X17 frame? :o

Carbonda is selling it, email them here info@carbonda.com
Post your build and review here



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29er / Re: FM1002 / FM1166 - 150mm frame
« on: August 28, 2023, 12:29:38 PM »
 General Update, Almost a year since building:

I'm 77kg and 177cm tall and loving my large, overforked, FM1002 .

I was originally afraid this would be "too much bike" for me... Looking back, I've no idea why I was worried. If I didn't already have a FM936, I would have built a FM1001. But I did have a the FM936 so I built this FM1002 as an aggressive trail bike for the stuff my FM936 can't handle.  My FM936 is collecting dust as I always pick the FM1002 to ride no matter the trail. Although its 2KG more, It's just a more fun bike.

The main difference is this:
On the trials the FM936 is holding me back. On the same trails I'm holding the FM1002 back. Both going down and climbing up.
Also the BB height ;)

Fantastic bike, can be very plush, but a little extra air in the rear make its super poppy too. Basically, I think this particular 4 Bar design has nice ratios.

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29er / Re: japjoe7 Carbonda FM1001 build thread
« on: August 24, 2023, 11:28:37 AM »
I spoke too soon apparently, the Kenda's shipped. Judging by all the VERY poor review of the vendor I expected not to get the tires. We'll see if they are the right ones when I receive them. I guess I'll have 2 new pair of tires now lol.

You should still expect not to get the tires: You may be dealing with scam 5 or 11 from this list https://www.reddit.com/r/Aliexpress/comments/hlk157/common_scams_on_aliexpress_and_how_to_avoid_them/

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29er / Re: FM1002 / FM1166 - 150mm frame
« on: July 03, 2023, 07:04:32 PM »
I have a couple quick questions for you guys!

Does anyone have the max seatpost insertion depth for a size M?

Also, I am planning to build this up with a 150mm fork. Interestingly enough, a size L FM-1001 overforked to 150mm has nearly the same geo as a size M FM-1002 underforked to 150mm.
The main difference between the two is that the 1001 has 135mm rear travel vs the 1002 has 150mm. The reach, stack, head tube angle, wheelbase, chainstay length, etc are all within 0.5deg or 0-10mm difference.
Does anyone have experience underforking this bike to be a 150/150?

Thanks!


In general, the seat post insertions is no problem for this frame. On my large frame, I can fully insert my 180mm OneUp V2 dropper, almost 27cm of insertion.

Regarding the overfork/underforking questions, the reach would be quite different. The FM1002 has much more reach than the FM1001. Underforking the FM1002 would increase the reach even more. Over forking the FM1001 would decrease the reach even more. I would guess 5-9mm difference each way, plus the 7mm built in difference so the two builds would have a 17-25mm in total reach difference.


Personally, I would recommend overforking for both bikes! My 170mm Lyrik puts me at 64 degrees with the head angle and make my large frame feel more medium. I think the FM1002 is the best, just don't count on the paint being perfect if you go with Carbonda!

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29er / Re: Carbonda FM 1003 / Flybike FM 1266 180mm "Super Enduro"
« on: May 05, 2023, 11:28:30 AM »
It’s almost like the 1003 came from a different designer and an entirely different production line than the 1001/1002. Bunch of small differences, like the press in headset and somewhat crude (but workable) tube in tube cable routing. Head tube ~15mm shorter in the same frame size.

Painting is a skilled profession, someone working for Carbonda is painting poorly. It is very much a luck of the draw and not frame specific. My FM1002 has the paint that easily chips too. It's like the primer and paint are not bonding very well.

Please complain to your contact at Carbonda, if no one complains, nothing will happen. I got some money back for my paint issues, just because I want them to know that this affects them financially.

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