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Now this is gas
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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Tavelo Aero Frame
« Last post by Shinobi_77 on Today at 06:51:27 AM »
A clear pass to me. Not worth the risk and hazzle.
I wish Tavelo all the best with that pricing policy.
Myself just pulled the trigger for a almost new Scultura 9000 with Alu rims yet full R8100 for less than 2400€. A way better package and value if you ask me.
Now I'm looking forward for some new wheels from the Shanghai bike show and that the Yen comes up in value again and then I'll upgrade. Current favourite by quite some margin is 9Velo with carbon spokes.
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It seems that more Chinese manufacturers are interested in penetrating the groupset market, which is dominated by Shimano and SRAM. After Ltwoo, Sehsah, and Wheeltop, Magene is a new player. They showcased their QED 12spd road groupset at Shanghai's China International Bicycle Fair. I got this info (and pictures) from a person attending the fair. So, there might be some discrepancies. Anyway, here is what I know:
- 12spd semi-wireless groupset
- looks like Shimano 105
- it will have hidden buttons on the inside
- hoods/shifters compatible with rim + hydraulic disc brakes

The price or the release date is unknown. What is your guess?

More details and pictures at: https://www.cyclistshub.com/magene-qed-groupset-revealed/
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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: VeloBuild VB-R-268 frame
« Last post by RasmusWH on Today at 06:24:30 AM »
I simply put bubble wrap around battery. I rode 100 km with no issues. I am still looking for a permanent solution.

I can now confirm that the SL7 Di2 battery mount works for the 268  :)
Can't put the link in, so have added a screenshot:

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Seka Spear
« Last post by Casio20 on Today at 06:19:08 AM »
Thanks for your response,

I'm not sure, if LR is too sporty as even a Dogma is more relaxed geometry, or if it's significant difference to l at all.


Thanks
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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Tavelo Aero Frame
« Last post by toxin on Today at 06:02:29 AM »
Reportedly the front end is incredibly flexible
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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Tavelo Aero Frame
« Last post by Eddy_Twerckx on Today at 05:10:05 AM »
Very fair point about the current pricing of both Winspace and Tavelo. But if they are both in fact sourced by Adapt, it's a shame we don't see more bike builds and conversations on their frames on this forum. Especially if we are to assume the quality/fit finish is nearly the same if true.

The question becomes:
1. Does Adapt not (easily) offer up B2C sales?
2. Are people generally just not interested in their frames?

If it's the latter then it's odd to use the Winspace open-mold talking point if people just aren't interested in Adapt's offerings to begin with.

I emailed Adapt to buy a frame and they said no, they wouldn't sell directly to consumers.

Tavelo, Nich, and 1OF1 are all using the Adapt frame. My issue has always been price. People don't want to spend $2000 for an open mold frame. Heck, most people don't want to spend $1500 for an open mold. That's why I never even seriously considered a Winspace. The Adapt looks good, but I'm not spending that on an open mold frame. Maybe for a Bross or Seka that's in house, but even that I'd like to see more reviews of quality and long term durability. Over $2000 for direct to consumer is a tough sell when you can get local shop support with a big brand for $1000 more. Which in my book is worth it. Parts availability, shops in every bigger city, mechanics that are familiar with the brand, warranty support. That's the premium you pay for the big brands. With an open mold, I know what to expect and work on the bike myself. You get a deal but you know you don't have that brand support. At $500, that's worth the trade. $2300? Nope. Not when you can probably get an SL7 for that price.
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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Tavelo Aero Frame
« Last post by Nadeshiko on Today at 02:47:57 AM »
Very fair point about the current pricing of both Winspace and Tavelo. But if they are both in fact sourced by Adapt, it's a shame we don't see more bike builds and conversations on their frames on this forum. Especially if we are to assume the quality/fit finish is nearly the same if true.

The question becomes:
1. Does Adapt not (easily) offer up B2C sales?
2. Are people generally just not interested in their frames?

If it's the latter then it's odd to use the Winspace open-mold talking point if people just aren't interested in Adapt's offerings to begin with.

I have contacted people i know in the industry and the answer is:
Adapt does not offer (easily) B2C sales at all. You need some pretty deep connections to get them to entertain such an idea.
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I've had an L-Twoo ERX groupset for about 9 months now. I've never been super impressed with the shifting precision but for the price I wasn't going to complain too much. Today I put a new cassette and chain on and when doing so I noticed that the derailleur cage looked bent.  The bottom pulley sits further outbound than the top.  Immediately I figured the derailleur hanger must have be bent somehow, not sure how as this bike has never been off the trainer, but nonetheless, that was my first thought.  Before pulling the bike out of the trainer and into the bike stand I figured I'd throw on the 105 derailleur I had on the bike before putting on the L-Twoo groupset, it lined up perfectly. I then put the hanger alignment tool on, it is also perfect.  The only remaining thing is that the L-Twoo derailleur is bent somehow, or maybe it is just like that by default (which would be a bit weird). Can any of you out there with L-Twoo ERX drivetrains have a look and see if yours looks like mine?  It's hard to photograph but you should be able to see what I mean in the attached image.
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I installed the old design on 5 bikes, and i cracked one non drive side arm at 6 or 7nm. Racework is largely useless to deal with. They made so many mistakes in my order with them that i can't remember the exact count. Beyond the cranks, i bought 12s chains from them, they sent me 11s, the bar tape they sold me is the absolute worst i've ever used, and more. They refused to warranty anything, including the crank arm even though it was low torque (they dont tell you what torque to use, btw), but i managed to buy a replacement one for cheap enough - abnormal, but at least i still have 5 cranksets to use and not 4, for now anyway -.
We've put around 5k km on all these cranksets so far, i'd say. to avoid cracking more crank arms, i'm using 5nm and an obscene amount of threadlock. It's been working.
Either way they updated the non drive side design.
I wouldn't recommend them, goes without saying, but to be fair, i'm happy with the cranksets as long as it's not broken - kind of like i'm happy with my ltwoo er9 when it's not broken, the problem being that out of 5, 2 broke for no reason -, and their 3d printed saddles are nice too.
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