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29er / Re: Welcome to Chinertown - Introduce Yourself!
« on: June 27, 2016, 07:34:55 AM »
... the 3.0" tire is the future of mountain biking. 

Every new fad in biking is proclaimed to be the future of mountain biking. I personally am still loving the hell out of my undersized and lower traction (but fast as blazes) 29x2.0 tires. Not everyone values ultimate traction over other considerations. Plus does seem to be a better solution than fat bikes, but "the future of mountain biking" remains to be seen. So far the only fad that's delivered that is larger wheel sizes. Good luck finding any top level bike that comes in 26" wheels anymore. :D

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Component Deals & Selection / Re: CX-Delta spokes
« on: June 26, 2016, 07:05:12 PM »
Who is using them? I see that Peter is using them in his wheel builds but I can't find much on them. I was hoping to use CX-Rays but if these are cheaper, I may try them. I can't find much but what I can find is that the weight is the same but the profile is rectangular instead of bladed like the Rays.

I did a little bit of looking and wasn't able to find them generally available. In fact, they seem to be limited to Chinese manufacturers.

They're the same idea as the CX-Ray spokes, but as you noted, they're just pressed flat instead of ovalized. Should make for a much cheaper process and thus a cheaper spoke. Compared to the Laser, the CX-Ray has a greatly improved fatigue life due to the cold working of the steel in the pressing process. Looks like the Delta offers the same advantages. I'd love to try a wheel build with them.

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29er / Re: CS-036 Build Book / Beginners Guide
« on: June 26, 2016, 06:54:57 PM »
Sounds good to me, I'd be happy to contribute as well.

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29er / Re: CS-057 Trail-XC Race Build - Budget Build
« on: June 26, 2016, 06:52:06 PM »
Whoa, crazy! I love it! Must be a blast to drive as is, looks like it'll be even more awesome. Thanks for sharing!

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29er / Re: CS-057 Trail-XC Race Build - Budget Build
« on: June 23, 2016, 08:20:06 PM »
ebruner - saw the Kona photos, but had to notice the Miata. Beautiful color, looks like a serious bar. Curious to see more about that. :D

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29er / Re: CS-036 Build Resources and other tips?
« on: June 23, 2016, 08:17:34 PM »
Honestly tape doesn't look good to me. That's what I use, it works fine but... I just don't consider that a good design.

Doesn't look good? Isn't it covered by your tire in almost all conditions? :D

Aside from not looking good, curious why you don't think it's a good design. It's simple, it works, results in a wheel that's easy to build... hard to fault it.

I like the concept of the rim with no holes in it, but haven't seen any design that makes me think it would be anything less than a huge pain to build. If you can ignore the wheelbuilder's pain (I can't as it is mine) it's a nice setup as long as there aren't any design issues that would otherwise compromise the wheel. I've gotta say I like the drag-it-through-with-a-magnet approach far better than Mavic's approach of threading into the rim.

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29er / Re: Deciding between 057, 256, or 041
« on: June 21, 2016, 02:20:11 PM »
Update: Wound up going with the 041, and it cracked behind the seat tube after only a handful of VERY light duty rides. Extremely bad design, poorly executed. Being told it was a bad batch, but if there was any quality control at all, this would have been caught.

Considering there have been multiple reports of the 256 cracking, and now this bad batch of 041 frames showing that there is no testing or QC happening on these frames, the only 29er hardtail I would recommend is the 057. I know several big, strong guys who ride the 057 with good results. Stay away from the light frames.


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Don't get me wrong, Ti is wonderful stuff. I've got a Ti road bike sitting right behind me as I type this that has given me tons of good miles since 2002 and will continue to do so as long as I can foresee. I've run Ti bolts, Ti saddle rails, all manner of Ti parts. It's wonderful stuff.

All I'm saying is if you're a big person, Ti spindles are not a good idea. It's just too small of a diameter to capitalize on the strengths of Ti. Hell, even Grace has had a Ti spindle fail on her eggbeaters, but that was several years back and the design was pretty rife with stress risers. She's been on full Ti Egg 11s for a while now, and they've been fine.

Also, I've had several pedals with non-stainless spindles. Sure, it can rust, if you're not paying any attention to your components. Otherwise, grease keeps that from happening.  ;D

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The problem with Titanium is that depending on quality it will be stronger or weaker then steel. I'd bet that the CB Ti spindle is high quality (but such expensive!) when the cheap ones are weak. I'd stick to steel.

No. Got a degree in mechanical engineering and was into bikes when I went to school so was particularly interested in the materials aspect. Titanium is _not_ stronger than steel - it may have a higher specific strength, which is to say its strength relative to its weight, but there is no grade of titanium that is stronger than any decent grade of steel.

Looking at specific strength, there are grades of aluminum that are stronger than steel - relative to their weight - but you wouldn't make pedal spindles out of it.

Even with the highest quality aircraft grade titanium I would _NOT_ run Ti spindles if I were over 180lbs or so - the diameter of the pedal spindles is just far too small, and the penalty for a spindle failure is too damn painful.

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I bought from this USA based producer/seller http://www.ebay.com/itm/151575142140 and after 500 km of riding, they basically looks like new even I'm 220 pounds and heavier than their max weight recommendation.

Having had chain failures in the past, I wouldn't be in any rush to overload pedal spindles. Having one of them fail while you're really cranking on the bike is going to end _very_ badly, and if you happen to be going fast at the time, it'll be very badly indeed. I'm 220lb and value my nuts and face far too much to ride Ti spindles by anyone.

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29er / Re: Crack in seat tube CS-041
« on: June 21, 2016, 05:13:03 AM »
base on the pedal you use, I believe you when you say the bike was not ridden "seriously" when it broke ... ;-)

Yep, exactly. It's had maybe a total of 6 rides under a 120lb woman and a 150lb man - the last ride with the plastic flat pedals.

but if the seat post went pass the section where it broke, that means the seat tube has room for the post to "move around", and enough so that it cracked site tube.

I'm sorry, that just doesn't make any sense. If the seat post is inserted far enough into the frame, especially as the frame is reinforced at this point, then there is no reason whatsoever for the frame to have broken here except defective product.

Just follow every single recommendation of this book
http://www.wheelpro.co.uk/wheelbuilding/book.php

I can agree with that. I've been building wheels since the early 90s (yeah, I'm old, what of it? ;D ) and got that a while back. Thought it was probably the best book I'd seen on the subject.

Very good! I have been lazy and just used the frame/fork to build the wheels. It still worked but a stand is definitely better. You will also need a dishing tool. I've been VERY lazy on this one too, but I really like this solution. 2 mugs/glass and some coins :

LOL - that's brilliant! That stack of coins might be worth as much as a dishing tool, but at least then you can still use them to buy more stuff.

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29er / Re: My wife's CS-041 29er hardtail
« on: June 16, 2016, 09:16:19 PM »
That sucks. They obviously need to re-think this design.
My vote is definitely for the .057 but I think she needs a .036 in the quiver.

Oddly enough, her interest in another Chiner frame is nonexistant. Her Scott hardtail has seen trails that most folks would think require a long-travel trail bike, both east coast and west. This thing couldn't survive a couple light rides in Nox.

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Component Deals & Selection / Re: Smud-carbon saddle
« on: June 16, 2016, 08:03:42 PM »
Thank you for sharing.
I just sent an email asking about a seatpost.

To re-build my CS-041 I need a seatpost of 420-430mm to be sure it goes far enough.
A 400mm is ok, but I would prefer it a bit more inside the frame.

Holy crap... if a 400mm seat post isn't long enough, you sure you're on the right size frame?

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29er / Re: My wife's CS-041 29er hardtail
« on: June 16, 2016, 06:10:29 PM »
Full details here but after only a couple rides under Grace and two under two of my friends who were interested in trying out MTB, this happened:



This truly was a JRA - my buddy hasn't been MTB before and was literally just riding along on an extremely non-technical section of singletrack when there was a loud crack. Found the crack when I got home and checked - thought of it after reading dudliek's post about a crack in the same area on his CS-041.

Considering all the issues with this frame, I am coming away supremely unimpressed, and am not sure what I want to do here. Get another 041 which is apparently a crap design? Get the 256 which has shown to have a weak spot in the rear wishbone? Just go with old faithful, the 057?


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29er / Re: Crack in seat tube CS-041
« on: June 16, 2016, 06:04:30 PM »
They may have a design issue on that frame.

You ain't just whistlin' Dixie...

As mentioned elsewhere, we got an 041 for my wife as a backup bike. She's ridden it maybe four times, and never anywhere too technical, mostly local trails. Plenty of info about her thoughts in the linked post.

A couple weeks ago, I had a buddy try it out so he could check out MTB. He wasn't a fan, but he's a city boy and doesn't like being in the woods. Freak.  ;D

Today, another buddy gave it a try on the same trails, which are _very_ non-technical. It's called the Green Ribbon trail, and it's easily ridden on a road bike with 23c tires. Some roots here and there, but otherwise glassy smooth hardpack. While we were out riding, I hear a loud crack, and look back, nothing seems amiss, huh... guess something just shifted on the bike or something. My buddy jokes that he just broke the bike.

Get home and I'm bringing the bike in the shop and I remember this post, so I run a finger on the area shown in dudleik's photo, and...



Considering all the other issues we had with this frame, I'm supremely unimpressed at this point. I pulled the seatpost out and compared it to this junction, and the post went past where it cracked.

At this point, considering the age of the frame, I would think long and hard before getting an 041.

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