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The machining on the exp style ratchets may have been the issue, I suspect one of the ratchet rings was not moving in the channels. 

Not saying this is what happened to you, but when I serviced my Venfort hub one of the rings was stuck, I reached out to venfort who advised that the rings are actually handed, when I got the stuck ring out I reversed their position and have had no further issues. I cannot see any physical difference between the rings, but I haven't done any measurements either. Have a heap of kms on them now, regularly racing and am happy with them.

The bearings in my front hub got noisy quickly so I swapped them out. The bearings had very little light grease in them.

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29er / Re: Ican S3 XC Frame
« on: July 28, 2022, 03:19:18 PM »
511 is an odd choice for a bike like this but you do you! I recently went to 471 on my S-works Enduro because I was sick of breaking wheels and they are proving strong. Have carbon on the S3 and have been very happy with how they perform. XM series rims are lighter build than EX but are still quite strong. I put a couple of thousand km of rocky riding on a XM401 with no troubles.

It's been 3 weeks now, did your frame arrive ok?

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29er / Re: Ican S3 XC Frame
« on: April 28, 2022, 08:37:20 PM »
Interested in how the frame holds up, lovely bike btw, your stem is upside down though

I literally flog the piss out of mine. Early on I had a small chainstay issue which ICAN sent me a new one - but I never changed the old one out. Regularly race enduro on mine, great frame.

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29er / Re: Ican S3 XC Frame
« on: March 28, 2022, 03:01:19 PM »
@Ben78 how's the frame stiffness? Did you notice any flex/wiggle-wobble under hard corners, etc? Always hard to tell just how slender the frame really is/isn't, and how it will ride just by looking at pics.

I don't notice any flex, but I'd be interested in trying to get some slow motion video to see if I can see it moving around. But then, if I don't notice it, does it matter?

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29er / Re: Ican S3 XC Frame
« on: March 28, 2022, 02:59:51 PM »
What does the finished bike weigh in at? Ican shows it as just shy of 30 pounds. Could this be built light enough to do XC racing?

Hi, my S3 hovers around 25-26lb, depending on the tyres. Eventually when I can buy a 34SC fork i should get to 24-25lb. Not super light, but is actually a fun ride. I had a full XC race bike before and whilst quick, it wasn't something I was happy to spend 3+ hours on.

Currently my component list is
Revelation Fork
Truvativ carbon bars
Magura MT Trail Brakes
Microshift Advent X 10 speed
SLX Crankset
FOX DPS Factory shock (165x45)
Dropper OneUp 180mm
Saddle Giant Contact SLR Forward (Carbon, 173g)
CarbonBeam 30x30 front and 34x23 rear with Venfort Pro4 hubs (DT Clone) and Pillar TB2018 3B spokes (XC)
DT Swiss XM481 with Venfort Pro4 hubs and Pillar TB2018 spokes (Enduro, currently waiting delivery of hubs)
Front tyre Specialized Ground Control Grid 2.35 (XC)
Rear tyre Specialized Fast Trak Control 2.3 (XC)
Front Tyre Pirelli Trail S 2.4 (Enduro)
Rear Tyre Maxxis Aggressor 2.3 (Enduro)

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29er / Re: Ican S3 XC Frame
« on: February 14, 2022, 02:02:59 PM »
Just wanted to share, I've been riding my ICAN S3 for nearly 10 months, and have put a modest 1200km on it. This weekend just gone I entered a NSW Enduro series and decided to run the S3 rather than my S-Works Enduro - the particular course is very rocky off the top but transitions to flowy single track with berms and jumps, little else by way of technical features. Anyway, I took out P1 in my category and finished 17th overall from 110 participants.

I've ridden a lot of different bikes, and honestly this one has been the most fun I've ever had on a bike. If I could buy the exact same frame in 140mm travel I'd be all over it, I think then I'd sell my Enduro as it would be redundant! (for the courses I ride anyway).

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Component Deals & Selection / Re: Carbon Rims - More money = better?
« on: December 01, 2021, 01:30:32 PM »
Does the rim show any strike marks?  Did you reach out to Carbon Beam?

It does, its obviously a rock strike. However the front rim which is a lighter build of the same rim (CarbonBeam allow you to select a build weight) has had multiple rock strikes that I have heard, and has quite a few scratches and gouges but has not had any such problems. The heavier build rear I never once heard a rock strike in the very few rides I had on it, and it has busted. I actually suspect it was a poor layup that has failed under the rock strike.

CarbonBeam said "it's obvious its a rock strike" and weren't interested.

I have a pair of DT XM421 coming, 100g heavier but at least I know they will take a beating.

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Component Deals & Selection / Re: DT 240EXP hub clones Goldix, Venfort
« on: November 18, 2021, 04:05:25 PM »
I have the Venfort "Pro4" version of this hub.
Front is perfect, about 500km so far not a single issue.
Rear is about 100km and is also good, except when I stripped it down after 30km or so to make sure everything looked ok. The inner ratchet had jammed into the body. I managed to get it out by tapping the backside with a drift I made using an old screwdriver. I contacted Venfort who told me that the ratchet is inner/outer specific. Although there is no visual indication of this at all. I swapped the ratchet pieces around and have had no further jamming issues though.

As for sound, I ride with a guy that has a DT 360 with 36T ratchet, this hub sounds identical. The hub does have a slight "off centre" sound which makes the volume rise and fall slightly, noticeable when riding but not to a spectator.

The hub came with a spare set of driver bearings also which is nice.

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Component Deals & Selection / Re: Carbon Rims - More money = better?
« on: November 18, 2021, 03:52:51 PM »
Yes, I'm definitely on the this is a "me problem" more than anything.

I have done several hundred km on a DT XM401 without issue, it is a 22.5 inside, "AM" rim. The rims I have managed to ruin have been on a 170mm Specialized Enduro, riding very rocky high speed downhill type tracks.

I also wonder if rim design and compliance is a factor. For example a 30mm deep rim is a lot stiffer and less likely to flex out of the way of a rock than (say) a 20mm deep rim.

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Component Deals & Selection / Carbon Rims - More money = better?
« on: November 18, 2021, 01:42:09 PM »
I bought a pair of Carbon Beam 29" 30x30 rims for my ICAN build, put them on Venfort DT copies for a total built weight of 1425g. I chose the lightweight 315g for front and AM 360g for the rear. They are cheap at $130usd each including delivery.

However in less than 100km the rear is destroyed by a rock strike. Now I get that rock strikes aren't warranty, however when it comes down to it, the seller advertises these as AM with a weight rating of 120kg for mountain bike use. I didn't even hear the rock strike and have been pretty careful on this bike to ensure my riding isn't as enthusiastic so to speak as my heavier duty enduro bike. That said, I have destroyed several aluminium rims over the last couple of years, but they are a LOT cheaper too...

I had a look at Lightbicycle, they have a great writeup on different layups and light/standard/heavy duty layup options, however their rims come out to $366 ea delivered.

Is a $366 rim less prone to destruction from rock strike than a $130 rim?

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29er / Re: Ican S3 XC Frame
« on: November 17, 2021, 01:39:26 PM »
Can anybody share a picture of the dropper cable routing? Thanks!

Dropper routing is all internal

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29er / Re: Ican S3 XC Frame
« on: November 17, 2021, 01:36:23 PM »
How is everyone finding the sizing of this frame?

I've got a medium Ripmo AF with 458mm Reach. I'm 5' 8.5" and find the bike to fit good if a touch long.  A large Ripmo has a 475mm reach and would be too big for sure. 

This S3 medium at 475 reach seems like it will be too big.  But a small frame seems strange to me.

Anyone else dealt with this new sizing and had to size down?

Thank you.

Keep in mind that reach is independent of seat angle, so this frame with a 1° steeper seat tube has a shorter perceived reach. If your seat top is 600mm above the bottom bracket 1° steeper makes it 10mm more forward, so comparing with your Ripmo the perceived reach of the S3 would be more like 465, there are other factors at play too, because reach is not measured on the rotational centre of the bike, rather off the bottom bracket, if you put a 120mm fork on your S3 the result is an effective shortening of the reach from stock. Say this was another few mm and we are now at something like 462mm perceived reach - not all that different to the 458 Ripmo (which incidentally is a 160mm bike, so at 30% sag sits 48mm lower at the front compared to a 120mm bike which sits 40mm lower, further acting to close the reach gap).

Anyway, what I'm trying to say is it is a lot more complicated than just comparing a single figure on geometry to arrive at a conclusion, especially when the two bikes are aimed at different styles (for example, take a look at the reach numbers on dual crown downhill bikes!) A really great website to compare geometry is 99 Spokes - https://99spokes.com/en-AU/compare?bikes=vitus-rapide-fs-cr-mountain-2021;*z.MD|w.29,ibis-ripmo-af-slx-2021;*z.MD|w.29 this link compares the Ripmo with the Vitus Rapide FS which is a Vitus branded FM936 which is the same geo as the Ican S3 It makes it pretty easy to see what the differences are.

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29er / Re: Ican S3 XC Frame
« on: November 13, 2021, 02:34:28 PM »
Hi all! Has anyone had issues with this frame's bottom bracket? Everyone says avoid BSA BBs as they may detach from the frame...

Only issue I had was the threads were a little galled and had to be cleaned first. No issue with separation and I ride it pretty hard.

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29er / Re: Lexon or Carbonda (or....)
« on: October 20, 2021, 02:19:24 PM »
You can contact them directly by email: wing [at] carbonda.com

I did an enduro race in July, just swapping the wheels.
And the Swiss Epic, an XC race, in August.
Both with the 120mm fork.
The bike had harsher terrains than it is designed for, and survived 3 crashes.

I won a local enduro in August on my Ican X3 which is a Horst Link version of the 936, and didn't change the wheels lol. Incredibly capable bikes. I've had a lot of bikes and I just love getting on this thing. It is starting to get pretty dinged up, but one day I'll fill the scratches, sand it back and give it the proper paint job it deserves.

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29er / Re: Ican S3 XC Frame
« on: October 20, 2021, 02:11:16 PM »
The XT IceTech brakes are coming off the old bike, as are the 11 speed rear shifter, XT bottom bracket and XT crank,  Maxxis Dissector tires, etc.. I haven't decided if I will add a dropper post and remote. I am thinking about the OneUp V2.

Interesting choice of tyres. Ican claim 29er to 2.35" so will be interested to see how you go with a 2.4 in there. 27.5x2.4 dissector certainly fits easily though.

*edit* Just thought I'd add, I have the OneUP 180mm dropper in my large frame, and don't have it fully inserted. I am 6'/182cm I think I could have got away with the 210 version! Although the 180 is almost comical in how much it goes up and down! I originally had a Bontrager 150mm and the max insertion length on it was the same as the OneUp.

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