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Re: Carbonda Cfr 1056 Hi All, just received my 1056 frame today. See attached pic. Havn't taken any weights etc. Not sure on the colour tbh. It's RAL3032 metallic with logos in RAL 7016 (which looks a bit too dark). I'm sure I'll grow to like it but right now I wish I went for a brighter colour. To compensate, at the same time my 707 frameset arrived (in the same box) in RAL 1003 (Signal Yellow), and that looks awesome!

Won't be able to build them up for a while a have a few bikes already in the workshop.

If anyone has any q's about the process or weights then let me know.

June 25, 2022, 06:04:17 AM
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Re: Carbonda Gravel Carbon frame CFR707 Just received my 707 in RAL 1003. It will be a slow build but just so folks can see the frame. Signal Yellow with Pearl. Looks awesome.
June 25, 2022, 06:12:10 AM
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Re: Carbonda Cfr 1056
Hi all. I wanted to share a pic of my completed CFR1056 build as well as thank everyone for the contributions to this thread that helped me figure it all out. This is my first bike build, so there was a ton of learning in the process. A particular thank you to "2old2mould" for sharing his file for design that I leveraged in communicating with Wing. Details on what I ended up with:

The big stuff:
Frame: FM1056 Size M. (I'm 5'10 w/ 32" inseam and not super fit/flexy). Internal routing. 2-tone paint glossy.
Bottom Bracket: BSA-68
Groupset: Shimano 105 r7000. Hydraulic disc brakes, 11 speed.
Wheels: Elitewheels ENT Disc. 45mm depth; 28mm external width. Tubeless compatible.
Tires: Continental Grand Prix S TR - 28mm
Power Meter: Stages L Side for Shimano r7000
Stem: FSA SMR ACR Stem - 90mm    
Headset: NO. 55R 1.5" ACR STD
Handlebar: Ritchey WCS Streem Internal Routing Handlebar
Pedals: SHIMANO PDM520 Clipless SPD

The little stuff:
Hydraulic Hoses: Shimano SM-BH90 Disc Brake Hose
Shifter Cables: Shimano Dura-Ace R9100 Shift Cable Set
Tubeless Tape: Zukka Tubeless Tape 23mm
Handlebar Pads: Selle Italia Bar Tape Shock Absorbing Pads
Bar Tape: Domain Cycling Handlebar Tape & Bar Ends (94" x 1.2")

Build Learnings: Building the bike was an adventure and YouTube intensive. I had three major issues. First, an end cap for the front wheel hub went missing during the build, and since I didn't know better, I didn't realize a part was missing. This required finding a replacement. As the wheels are from a China based company, that took a lot of work to get sorted out. Checking for loose pieces everywhere before throwing out packaging would have saved me from this. Second, the original lock ring I had for the front brake rotor was too large and rubbed against the fork. I had to swap to a TRP Centerlock ring that was angled (narrow on the outside edge) to create space. Third, the holes for the rear brake caliper were slightly misaligned. This created rub between the brake pads and the rotor even without squeezing the brake levers. My local bike shop was unable to fix this issue, and Wing wasn't responsive. After ~50 miles of riding, the brake pads wore down a bit to allow free movement, but it feels like riding into a headwind until that happens. Will be annoying with each new set of pads. Fourth, while I wanted to go fully integrated, I wasn't sure on fit and feel. So I used the semi-integrated cabling route through the stem to allow some extra cable length. Once I've dialed everything in, I may go through the effort of routing through the handlebar directly and going fully integrated.

I did have my local shop complete an inspection/tune on the bike before riding it, and they found a few mistakes I made and corrected them. I highly recommend going that route if this is your first build or you lack 100% confidence in your skills. Overall, great experience.

Thank you for the 'shout-out' on your post. Your bike looks awesome. I wish I had been more adventurous now with my colour and design choices. A great build, and well done for doing it yourself too.

Regarding your pad rub, it's likely that the mounts are not level and perhaps some paint has also made them uneven. That was the case with mine, but a couple of minutes with a file solved that problem. If you aren't comfortable I'd suggest getting a bike shop to do it. If you do it yourself, then I'd suggest filing a little, checking the flatness, then filing again until you think you have nailed it. Better to be slow and steady than take off too much carbon. Also remember carbon dust can be dangerous so wet the area first and wear a mask.

April 07, 2023, 09:49:18 AM
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Re: Carbonda Gravel Carbon frame CFR707 Just to update. I showed my frameset to a Carbon repair specialist and they've confirmed there is a crack under the paint.  >:(

The repair itself is not that expensive, but it does mean stripping the bike down and then having it repainted when it's repaired.

Wing has been in touch to ask for more details so let's see if they stand by their customer service.

Gutted this has happened, as I really like the bike and the colour and I really hope I don't have to scrap the frame as there aren't many frames out there that I like (that are priced reasonably).


May 05, 2023, 03:58:08 AM
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Re: "Slow" customer service by Carbonda I've had fits and starts in terms of comms with Carbonda but generally they are very good and the attention to detail is good also. In my experience having orded several frames direct they are at least in the top 3 suppliers, if not the top 2. My main criticism with them would be about paint quality (actually more about pantone accuracy) but that's very minor and mostly my own fault for having expectations of receiving a Trek Project One style paint job for $80  ;D

Actually, my main gripe with them is that they only have very limited models available. I own a CFR1056 and a 707 and would have had an Aero frame off them if they had one that looked decent (definitely NOT a fan of the 515).

May 30, 2023, 10:17:23 AM
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Re: Carbonda Gravel Carbon frame CFR707 I am 175cm and ride a M Giant TCR with a 100mm stem  and a M Carbonda 1056 also with a 100mm (but could go longer). I found the M 707 was the right size for me with a 90mm stem to keep the steering sharp. 
February 17, 2024, 12:11:37 PM
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Re: Carbonda Gravel Carbon frame CFR707 I'm 175cm with 82cm inseam. Saddle height is usually 74.5cm. I run a M with a 90 stem and 10mm spacer which rides like an endurance bike. For gravel I'd swap to an 80mm  stem. This seems fine for 3-4hr rides. For reference my road bike is a TCR with same saddle height, 100mm stem and 90mm drop to bars. A small 707 would have been fine for more speed and aggressive handling but I'm OK with a M.
March 07, 2024, 10:11:50 AM
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Re: Carbonda Gravel Carbon frame CFR707 I wouldn't say it would be more nervous, maybe more direct. Have you compared geometry between similar bikes on Geometry Geeks? Maybe see how the 707 compares to bikes like the Revolt, Silex, Checkpoint and Diverge.
March 08, 2024, 02:03:01 AM
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Re: Carbonda Gravel Carbon frame CFR707 If you look at the Giant Revolt as a comparison to the 707 in a medium, the Reach is almost the same (3mm longer on the 707) but the Stack is lower on the 707 by about 11mm. I am 175 with roughly the same inseam and I think the 707 is a perfect fit in a Medium for me with a 90mm stem. I would even go for an 80mm, but not for the length, just to try the ride dynamics. I think if you ride a 56 Tarmac with a 90mm stem, then a 707 with a 90mm would be fine.

As far as cost is concerned. I think I paid about $1700 for both a 707 and 1056 painted and shipped to the UK during 2021 (so around C19 times when things were pricey). For me that was worth it for two decent bikes but you might disagree. I really like them both. The paint work is a bit 'meh' on the 1056 but I'm going to have that repainted anyway.

March 20, 2024, 12:31:22 PM
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Re: Carbonda Gravel Carbon frame CFR707
Thank you! Did you negotiate with them to get those prices or were they just the prices you were quoted? I assume ordering direct via email is the best option vs some secret AliX store?

I went direct and spoke to Wing at Carbonda. I don't think I did negotiate, but maybe I did. I recall the shipping was an issue as all freight at that time was really expensive. Nothing to say you couldn't try to negotiate though, as things are different now.

My one piece of advice would be to be VERY specific with any paint or logo requests. Pull together a document with colours, logo placement areas, any fonts etc. Things can easily get lost in translation.

March 21, 2024, 05:55:44 AM
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