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Title: obmbicycle.com / Taiwan carbon factory store
Post by: paracord on August 10, 2021, 12:48:57 AM
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/3899038?spm=a2g0o.detail.1000008.3.3f646cb1sY4xWS

https://www.obmbicycle.com/

Let´s talk about those 2. I have bought a F12 frame from obmbicycle. It started with a conversation on Aliexpress. Then we moved to whatsapp and ended up on obmbicycle.com
It should take 30-50 days to make the frame, it is day 38 today. They still communicate but the seller is sick, they have a typhoon in China and a flooded street so they can´t work. But I sent questions 3 weeks ago if it was 1 component color in the frame or 2 component. The answer has not been reeived yet.

Have you bought anything from them?
Title: Re: obmbicycle.com / Taiwan carbon factory store
Post by: carbonazza on August 10, 2021, 07:38:37 AM
I love their Intellectual Rights page.
Title: Re: obmbicycle.com / Taiwan carbon factory store
Post by: Nickk2000 on August 10, 2021, 10:32:52 AM
I think this company makes knockoffs and i think they will be low quality. BUT ive seen bigger miracles performed so im about curious the end result for this. Feel free to keep it updated.

The intelectual rights not being there tells me either the company doesnt care and theyll shut the website down OR its a really new company who still needs to update the website OR they dont have someone checking the website. Even velobuild which is on the cheaper end has a pretty good website. Not to say velobuilds bad but compare it to dengfu, ican, winspace, etc.
Title: Re: obmbicycle.com / Taiwan carbon factory store
Post by: paracord on August 11, 2021, 07:35:58 AM
It has been produced and it must be mine since I ordered osium white with a special chameleon.
39 days between payment and picture.
Title: Re: obmbicycle.com / Taiwan carbon factory store
Post by: Nickk2000 on August 11, 2021, 03:04:34 PM
It looks really good! Lets hope its structurally sound though. Keep it posted.
Title: Re: obmbicycle.com / Taiwan carbon factory store
Post by: paracord on August 13, 2021, 04:55:15 PM
It looks really good! Lets hope its structurally sound though. Keep it posted.
What is a bad sound?
Title: Re: obmbicycle.com / Taiwan carbon factory store
Post by: AT on August 16, 2021, 06:05:16 AM
Hello, I also ordered a MTB hardtail frame from OBM in januari. They reply to emails fairly quick, but they never mention a delivery date. Only that they are working on it. Very anoying. I asked for a refund, but they don't respond to that. I'm beginning to think this is a scam company, but now I see pictures here of frames they are working on, maybe not. Never again, that's for sure.
Title: Re: obmbicycle.com / Taiwan carbon factory store
Post by: Nickk2000 on August 16, 2021, 03:38:02 PM
Structurally sound as in no chips, carbon intact, etc.
Title: Re: obmbicycle.com / Taiwan carbon factory store
Post by: paracord on August 17, 2021, 03:41:27 AM
They also recommend DPD tax free as a shipping option. EMS was included with the frame but he really recommende DPD over EMS.
Title: Re: obmbicycle.com / Taiwan carbon factory store
Post by: AT on August 19, 2021, 01:42:55 AM
I asked for the cancellation of my order, and a refund. But they ignore my question. I ordered a Trifox frame now. Already have a fixed fork from them, they look more reliable.
Title: Re: obmbicycle.com / Taiwan carbon factory store
Post by: paracord on August 19, 2021, 05:05:39 AM
I asked for the cancellation of my order, and a refund. But they ignore my question. I ordered a Trifox frame now. Already have a fixed fork from them, they look more reliable.

Maybe they already started the production. I changed from free EMS to 130 USD DPD shipping instead.

Seller have shown a complete frame on picture and also the package. Shippingnumber have arrived from allbestbicycle@gmail.com

Shipment has not moved yet but it can be normal the first day or two.
Title: Re: obmbicycle.com / Taiwan carbon factory store
Post by: Nickk2000 on August 19, 2021, 03:09:45 PM
Maybe they already started the production. I changed from free EMS to 130 USD DPD shipping instead.

Seller have shown a complete frame on picture and also the package. Shippingnumber have arrived from allbestbicycle@gmail.com

Shipment has not moved yet but it can be normal the first day or two.

looks packaged just like my dengfu, everything seems normal except for the fact its a blatant replica/knockoff/counterfeit. My best guess is they probably had an engineer come and reverse engineer the name brand. One thing about the F and F12 is that they are incredibly light and aero. I think its like 700g and 850g for the F and F12? Theres no way in hell the company youre buying from can make it that light and still have it be structurally sound. If the frame comes in and weighs say 1000, or 1200g, id personally find that a little reassuring because it makes me think they actually used carbon.

As for the guy who asked for a refund, I forget who, but someone from china/chinese heritage said its common practice/culture to deflect a direct question or to change the topic, or not answer at all. You know, if you ask for a handlebar replacement under warranty, maybe nothing, but if you ask to pay for one, you get one. I'm completely spitballing and it's not meant to be rude but im curious what the culture for this is like.

defo keep this post updated.
Title: Re: obmbicycle.com / Taiwan carbon factory store
Post by: paracord on August 19, 2021, 03:31:31 PM
One thing about the F and F12 is that they are incredibly light and aero. I think its like 700g and 850g for the F and F12? Theres no way in hell the company youre buying from can make it that light and still have it be structurally sound. If the frame comes in and weighs say 1000, or 1200g, id personally find that a little reassuring because it makes me think they actually used carbon.

850 may be for an unpainted 50cm size. 595 frame weight is not specified what I can see.
F12 is not a light bike. I guess more than 8kg with Ultegra 8070 disc.
This F12 light comes in at 7,15kg with rim brakes and dura ace. (+230gram or so for paint)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBfR3I7WKcQ

Taiwan carbon factory store is the only store on Aliexpress I found that use T1100 in their F12 bikes instead of T1000. Whatever that will be in weight.

Another Aliexpress seller (High quality carbon frame store) showed me some weights.
Venge 56cm 1081 gram
SL7 52cm 809 gram
F12 50cm 1310 gram
Title: Re: obmbicycle.com / Taiwan carbon factory store
Post by: paracord on August 19, 2021, 03:36:16 PM
defo keep this post updated.

I may do a separate build thread.
Title: Re: obmbicycle.com / Taiwan carbon factory store
Post by: AT on August 23, 2021, 01:25:35 AM
Maybe they already started the production. I changed from free EMS to 130 USD DPD shipping instead.

Seller have shown a complete frame on picture and also the package. Shippingnumber have arrived from allbestbicycle@gmail.com

Shipment has not moved yet but it can be normal the first day or two.

Thank you, that gives confidence for sure. I don't know anything. Maybe I receive 2 framesets in the end, than I sell one. Trifox looks more reliable, and can deliver quick.
Title: Re: obmbicycle.com / Taiwan carbon factory store
Post by: paracord on August 23, 2021, 05:22:19 AM
I also have this information now from seller. I wonder how DPD works.
This means no later than September 8.

"Shipping time is expected to take 10 to 20 days
There will be logistics updates only after arriving in your country
Please be patient and wait for it to come"
Title: Re: obmbicycle.com / Taiwan carbon factory store
Post by: paracord on August 28, 2021, 06:27:37 AM
It took more than 2 days for tracking to be updated. I did delete the information after the date but you can see that 9 days where needed before something happened.
Title: Re: obmbicycle.com / Taiwan carbon factory store
Post by: Nickk2000 on August 29, 2021, 07:50:55 PM
if u feel so inclined see if other websites such as parcelsapp will tell u where it is before being in your country.
Title: Re: obmbicycle.com / Taiwan carbon factory store
Post by: paracord on August 31, 2021, 06:18:26 AM
It has arrived. :D But it´s not possible to upload images now. :-[
Title: Re: obmbicycle.com / Taiwan carbon factory store
Post by: paracord on August 31, 2021, 06:19:35 AM
Frame weight
Title: Re: obmbicycle.com / Taiwan carbon factory store
Post by: paracord on August 31, 2021, 06:21:06 AM
Fork weight
Title: Re: obmbicycle.com / Taiwan carbon factory store
Post by: paracord on September 04, 2021, 05:33:44 AM
Full frame
Title: Re: obmbicycle.com / Taiwan carbon factory store
Post by: paracord on September 04, 2021, 05:36:16 AM
More info will come here.
http://chinertown.com/index.php/topic,3391.0.html
Title: Re: obmbicycle.com / Taiwan carbon factory store
Post by: Nickk2000 on September 04, 2021, 11:35:03 PM
The carbon in the headtube issue seems a little offputting.

If i were to do this id have a ultrasound done around the frame to make sure its good, but over than that, looks great!
Title: Re: obmbicycle.com / Taiwan carbon factory store
Post by: shenlong1337 on September 29, 2021, 07:11:04 PM
I ordered from obmbicycle.com and I'm worried that they are also the same people as "allbestbicycle" which has reports of being scammed on Facebook.

When I received my invoice it show email of allbestbicycle@gmail.com which you can see this email on the  Facebook page. Any concerns?

I ordered the Venge style frame.
Title: Re: obmbicycle.com / Taiwan carbon factory store
Post by: paracord on September 29, 2021, 11:54:33 PM
I ordered from obmbicycle.com and I'm worried that they are also the same people as "allbestbicycle" which has reports of being scammed on Facebook.

If others are worried they can simply choose to buy from the Aliexpress store.

I managed to contact one of the guys on Facebook that says it's a scam. Frame was sent but not delivered. It's more a logistic issue. Dpd is a bit weird since it's not shown until Europe.

Those scam reports can also be working for Pinarello and try to scare people away.
Title: Re: obmbicycle.com / Taiwan carbon factory store
Post by: shenlong1337 on September 30, 2021, 07:57:35 AM
That's a good looking bike. Did you get those 50mm Roval wheels from them as well? What hub are you using? Looks like they are centerlock?
Title: Re: obmbicycle.com / Taiwan carbon factory store
Post by: paracord on September 30, 2021, 04:21:53 PM
That's a good looking bike. Did you get those 50mm Roval wheels from them as well? What hub are you using? Looks like they are centerlock?

No they come from Sun-bike store on Aliexpress. Very nice and light with 1420 spokes, novatec 411/412 hubs. I didn't choose centerlock since my other bike have 6 bolt. But the disc's wasn't possible to use anyway so I bought XT 160mm disc instead of Ultegra. Just a few grams lighter.