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Re: The Shiny New AM831 Group Buy (A) Thread!
Haideli is our company name and Tideace is our brand name, thanks.

I would say most of us know that, I'm just saying that someone should reconcile the Haideli page with the Tideace page as they describe slightly different specs with the same geometry.  The Haideli page looks like it was made before the mold was finalized.
http://www.haidelibikes.com/product/showproduct.php?id=129
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003057988287.html

August 15, 2021, 09:25:14 PM
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Re: The Shiny New AM831 Group Buy (A) Thread!
Why won't a coil work? Opening not big enough for a piggyback?

Width of the opening to the rear mount, similar to the real HT.

August 17, 2021, 07:08:24 PM
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Re: The Shiny New AM831 Group Buy (A) Thread!
There's really nothing to install with integrated headsets. I'm sure the BB won't come installed (or wont even come with a BB - why would it? They have no clue what cranks you're going to run).

Installed, no.  I would say about half of the frames I purchased came with generic Shimano hollowtech II botom brackets. It is a neat freebie, but to your point, I only have one bike with a Shimano drivetrain so it is kind of a waste.

August 19, 2021, 03:13:08 PM
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Re: The Shiny New AM831 Group Buy (A) Thread!
Does anyone have information on spacers/shock mounting hardware required?

8x22mm front
8x30mm rear

According to the Tideace listings.

August 19, 2021, 04:37:21 PM
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Re: The Shiny New AM831 Group Buy (A) Thread! Rockshox 22mm is actually 21.85mm but I've not added a Fox shock on a frame that didn't come with one already.  That might be a size option for your mounting hardware.  I have also filed these down because of what we'll call "manufacturing tolerance," so that is a way to get the job done :)
August 19, 2021, 06:27:52 PM
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Re: The Shiny New AM831 Group Buy (A) Thread!
Guys,

Sorry if this has been asked multiple times already.  Is there a nice full parts list that someone has done for their build for this AM831 bike?

I'm kinda new to this whole "build from scratch" thingy...TIA!

A list of things you'll need to complete this bike, but not specific brands or equipment:
Things included -
Frame
Headset
Seatpost clamp
Rear axle
BB depends on when you buy and might not be useful depending on your crankset

Things you'll need:
150-170mm fork with a tapered steerer tube
210x55 shock
8x22mm rear shock mounting hardware (linkage side, need to confirm exact measurement)
8x30mm rear shock mounting hardware (front mount of frame)
31.6 seatpost - if it is a dropper make sure you get a lever if not included
165mm or 170mm crankset and chainring 30t or 32t - (any longer will be crank arm strike city)
BB92 bottom bracket for whatever type of crankset spindle you get
Rear derailleur
Shifter
Chain
Cassette
180mm rear rotor or larger (larger will require an adapter)
180mm, 200mm, or 203mm front rotor (pay attention if you need an adapter)
Brake levers and calipers front and rear, usually come with hoses
Wheels and tires
Headset spacers
Handlebar
Grips
Pedals
Stem
Saddle
Shifter housing and ends if you go mechanical

Optional bits-
Better IS42/52 headset (I hope it is 42mm, sometimes they have a slightly smaller bearing)
A stealth rear axle from a few pages back
Chain guide, bash guard, or combo

I think that is all you need to get on the trail but this is off the top of my head, hopefully someone else will fill in the blanks.

August 22, 2021, 08:15:42 AM
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Re: Help a Clydesdale pick a new frame?
Hi all,

Longtime lurker, first time poster.

I built up a carbon 29er XC hardtail over the pandemic as my first foray into mountain biking. I've been absolutely loving it, and think I want to make the step up to a full suspension bike next season. There are an overwhelming number of options and I'm hoping I could use some of the community's expertise.

I'm a bigger guy, 6'2" and 240lbs (187cm and 110kg), and looking to build something that's more of a trail/all mountain bike. I've looked at a few options, FM1001 from Carbonda, LCFS713 & LCFS958 from LightCarbon, and CS-821 from XMCarbonSpeed. I don't know if these frames suit me and I'm not sure what exactly I should be looking for aside from front and rear travel in the 130-150mm range. I'm wondering if there is anything I should take into consideration because I'm a heavier rider?

I know technology in the bike world has really progressed the last few years. I was set on a 2x system and noticed there seems to be a lack of front derailleur mounting options on many frames. I'm not opposed to going 1x, as I know many people that love it, but having the flexibility to do both would be nice to have. I would just like to buy a frame that is current and not an obsolete style or geometry.

Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks for your time!

--VU

I started poking through older topics and saw that you were thinking about jumping on the AM831 group buy.  That is a good choice. The medium has the same specs as a Santa Cruz Hightower 2 large so keep that in mind.
I'm about 6'1 1/2" and 215lbs (I ordered a medium AM831) and my only real recommendation is skip carbon rims unless the only thing you will be riding is flow trails with no jumps.  I'll take the combination of compliance and durability from a good old alloy wheel with a downhill casing rear tire.  You can't bang carbon back into place on the trail, ask me how I know...
If you're concerned with cadence due to gear jumps of a 1x then maybe a short travel 100-120mm rear travel bike that either has a direct mount or band capable option for a front derailleur. They're going to have steep head tube angles and are meant for XC or light trail.  2x for all-mountain and enduro has left the industry and long may that continue.

August 23, 2021, 09:27:45 AM
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Re: The Shiny New AM831 Group Buy (A) Thread!
I pulled the trigger on a fork because it was a good deal. Now I just realized it's 51mm offset. What are people's thoughts on this? Was this frame designed for a shorter offset fork? Should I send it back and find a 44mm offset? Or will there really be no difference?

I kind of like it over the feel of a 44 or 42 after swapping forks between bikes.  I don't like the front of the bike to be twitchy and that few mm lengthens the wheelbase and trail a little and makes it a little less responsive.  If you ride a lot of fast flow switchbacks maybe consider swapping for a 44mm.
*I'll be moving my 51mm Lyrik over so I hope it doesn't suck :)

August 30, 2021, 04:44:55 PM
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Re: The Shiny New AM831 Group Buy (A) Thread!
I thought the same as you but we are wrong, increasing offset actually reduces trail.

https://www.theproscloset.com/blogs/news/why-mountain-bike-use-reduced-offset-forks

I accidentally a word there :) - lengthens the wheelbase and reduces trail a little and makes it a little less responsive.

But yes, I thought that for a while until I saw how it was measured.  +/-10mm of trail when you're already over 100mm doesn't feel less stable to me but that is with my anecdotal rider feeling hat on and not as an engineer. 
If you already have a 51mm fork I don't see a reason not to give it a go.  That said, if I don't like how it feels I will replace it with a newer Lyrik or a Zeb in 44mm and will relay my experience.

August 31, 2021, 06:22:43 AM
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Re: The Shiny New AM831 Group Buy (A) Thread!
Seat post: elita one aliexpress, I don`t like/use droppers: for me they are just more weight and more problems, I change my seat height stopping and using a QR
Old school :)  They are pretty reliable now even my oldest working Easton Haven doesn't give me problem unless it is used constantly for 2+ hours then it seems to overheat and come up really slow.   Oneup and even Brand X are really good value for money if you consider them in the future.
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Handlebar: here I ask for suggestion, I am looking for a reliable carbon one without breaking the bank: I selected og-evkin, but they don`t say if it is ok for enduro use; another option is ican rise (it says enduro capable) but possibly I would avoid the 35 mm diameter bars
Oneup Components here again but it is 35mm.  I mostly trust the bargain brand carbon for frames but I'm not sold on it for bars.  I just recently moved from alloy bars because of getting absolutely jarred over multiple day rides and I only trust the quality control of bigger brands for something this important. It obviously isn't Ali cheap but it also isn't Syncros expensive.

August 31, 2021, 06:40:19 AM
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